EPTRock, Paper, Scissors; Zerg, Protoss, Terran
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Holywow
Canada34 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Shifft
Canada1085 Posts
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Holywow
Canada34 Posts
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Sqq
Norway2023 Posts
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storm44
1293 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:23 Sqq wrote: Let me explain it to you like this. Terran is Fritzl, and Protoss and Zerg are locked in the basement waiting to get raep. Wow I just looked that story up and that is just terrible.. | ||
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caldo149
United States469 Posts
This type of thing, coupled with your own personal skill and racial understanding could be why some matchups seem easier than others to you. BTW, If you didn't know, a lot of people are under the impression that Terran is overpowered, that it takes less skill than the other races to be good with, etc. and so right now it seems like T>Z, T>P, and Z>P i believe. | ||
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Holywow
Canada34 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:44 caldo149 wrote: I think you have this experience because you play random... people probably play a safer against random to avoid all ins or strategic plays and so, for example, in ZvT when T plays safer it lets Z get a stronger economy and then roll over T later. T>P, and Z>P i believe. Interesting. I'll try just playing as individual races instead of random and see if I still get the same results. Maybe terran are really powerful because they have better early builds against specific races and by not being able to know right away it robs them of what makes them overpowered? | ||
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Zacsafus
England255 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:39 storm44 wrote: Wow I just looked that story up and that is just terrible.. U didnt know about fritzl? suppose its more of a european event :S OT: I dont think that there will ever be a rigid rock, paper, scissors in starcraft yes imagine that some people will feel much more comfortable as one race against another, however if i remember correctly the win/loss ratio of all the races was around 50% give or take a % or so toward the end of the beta. Dont quote me on that but i remember seeing it somewhere.... maybe that google spread sheet thang? | ||
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fishball232
United States90 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
Your play style/builds are just probably better geared to ZvT and TvP for whatever reason. I haven't seen the matchup stats recently but overall win ratios for all 3 races were within 0.6% of each other last time I checked | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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captive411
United States80 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:23 Sqq wrote: Let me explain it to you like this. Terran is Fritzl, and Protoss and Zerg are locked in the basement waiting to get raep. OMG | ||
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Melt
Switzerland281 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:44 caldo149 wrote: BTW, If you didn't know, a lot of people are under the impression that Terran is overpowered, that it takes less skill than the other races to be good with, etc. and so right now it seems like T>Z, T>P, and Z>P i believe. i think you misunderstood something. Terran isn't easy nor does it need no skill to play. Protoss is "the easy race". Statistics also proof that (Protoss is dominating lower divisions). But terran is just plain overpowered if you play them properly (They dominate diamond). Zerg is quite hard and a slight bit underpowered. Most of the imbalance cries of Zerg players come because they're so hard to play (it's not thats impossible to win against terran or protoss, it's just extremely hard and you aren't allowed to do many mistakes). My personal feel is that; PvZ is the most balanced matchup (if you learn to defend 4 or 5 Gate allins as Zerg). TvZ is quite heavily Terran favoured. PvT is a little Terran favoured if the Terran knows to abuse certain timing windows. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On August 10 2010 06:09 Melt wrote: i think you misunderstood something. Terran isn't easy nor does it need no skill to play. Protoss is "the easy race". Statistics also proof that (Protoss is dominating lower divisions). But terran is just plain overpowered if you play them properly (They dominate diamond). Zerg is quite hard and a slight bit underpowered. Most of the imbalance cries of Zerg players come because they're so hard to play (it's not thats impossible to win against terran or protoss, it's just extremely hard and you aren't allowed to do many mistakes). My personal feel is that; PvZ is the most balanced matchup (if you learn to defend 4 or 5 Gate allins as Zerg). TvZ is quite heavily Terran favoured. PvT is a little Terran favoured if the Terran knows to abuse certain timing windows. i think you are in the wrong game forum, protoss was the easy race in broodwar. they are the most micro intensive in sc2, not easy at all. | ||
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TurpinOS
Canada1223 Posts
It is clearly the most balanced matchup right now by far (far, far, far..) when it comes to the higher ranked people (which is what the game should be balanced around). As for Z, they are just very very very macro and micro intensive, high risk --- high reward if executed properly though. (IMO) | ||
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equiNOX-LWF
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Copper - Silver is dominated by Protoss. Gold - Diamond is dominated by Terran. Professional tournaments are dominated by zerg. That was the jist of the chart. Basically when all three races are played at full potential (professional tournies) terran lost quit often. At lower levels Protoss was dominant due to their relatively simple gameplay, and in the middle ground Terran pulled ahead because theyre most effective with certain amounts of skill. However it appeared that among higher level players the races were near-perfectly balanced but a high percent of tournaments were won by zerg players. | ||
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Spyridon
United States997 Posts
On August 10 2010 06:28 equiNOX-LWF wrote: I forget exactly where i saw it but the statistic was something like: Copper - Silver is dominated by Protoss. Gold - Diamond is dominated by Terran. Professional tournaments are dominated by zerg. That was the jist of the chart. Basically when all three races are played at full potential (professional tournies) terran lost quit often. At lower levels Protoss was dominant due to their relatively simple gameplay, and in the middle ground Terran pulled ahead because theyre most effective with certain amounts of skill. However it appeared that among higher level players the races were near-perfectly balanced but a high percent of tournaments were won by zerg players. Just because Idra won a tournament doesnt mean that "Professional tournaments are dominated by Zerg". Also, if you notice, aside from Idra, there hasnt been very much "Zerg domination" at tournaments at all. Nearly 40% of the top 100 players globally are Terran. Source - http://sc2ranks.com/stats/all/1/100 Last time there was top 10 stats available (end of phase 2), 6/10 players were Terran. | ||
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whateversclever
United States197 Posts
According to your info at least. | ||
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Panoptic
United Kingdom515 Posts
On August 10 2010 05:23 Sqq wrote: Let me explain it to you like this. Terran is Fritzl, and Protoss and Zerg are locked in the basement waiting to get raep. Reductio ad Fritzelum? for reals? | ||
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