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kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 06 2010 22:52 GMT
#1021
On July 07 2010 07:49 fatduck wrote:
Real name = address = almost unlimited griefing potential. Just fake 911 calls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting) can be a devastating prank. Not to mention ordering tons of delivery food, magazine subscriptions that have to be opted out of, etc. This is all shit that can be done over the internet with almost no risk and no effort. Sure, probably no one is going to mailbomb someone who 6 pooled them or go shoot up their house, but plenty of /b/tards know how easy it is to grief someone from the internet with some basic info like name, phone number, and address.

For all the people saying "just don't post on the forums" - what if you need to post in the technical support forums?

How often does this happen to you?

I mean, presumably, lots of people know your full name.

And that's certainly the case if you've ever done anything worthy of note in a local newspaper, high school newsletter, etc.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
July 06 2010 22:52 GMT
#1022
On July 07 2010 07:50 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:49 Kishime wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:48 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:
[quote]
And what stopped kids from doing this before...?


ohhh nothing you are so spot on
now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement

since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree?

First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names.

Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?


At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY.

It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name.

PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Seriously. Thanks.

Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before.
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni

I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided.


You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet?

Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.


How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place?


I'm gonna guess people call him and drive by his place every day.


Seriously, lets not be an ass. It's called harassment and affects lots of people in a very negative manner.


Do you think what happened to Bashiok is comparable to what will happen to the thousands of players on bnet after launch? No? It will only happen to the people acting like jackasses? God forbid.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-06 22:53:29
July 06 2010 22:52 GMT
#1023
On July 07 2010 07:44 Bibdy wrote:
I want to know how many of the people in that thread concerned about their privacy have a facebook page and twitter on a regular basis. That would be an interesting statistic.



I have a Facebook profile and a twitter account. I use the facebook profile to flag myself to my irl friends and acquaintances as a very balanced and successful individual, with interesting friends and nice activities.

I use the twitter account to build myself an online image as a successfull programmer who also have a keen eye for business, together with a Linkedin profile.

Gaming is kept at four arms length from both.

forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
July 06 2010 22:53 GMT
#1024
On July 07 2010 07:40 InfiniteIce wrote:


I hate to say it, but 9 posts, and they're all in this thread. I have a feeling you made an alt account simply to whiteknight this thread...


Nope, sorry I just don't use forums a lot (And all my posts aren't in here, anyway.) and generally keep my opinion to myself - but a topic like this is interesting to me as it really shows how paranoid some people are and a big change to the way something has worked for over 10 years doesn't happen every day so a chance to discuss it is great. I also don't know what that has to do with the subject, either. My opinion means less because I don't post a lot?

I have a different opinion to you, deal with it without trying to create a conspiracy.
Korean Netizen wrote: My ears died from the static and the music and my eyes died from the depressing gameplay and bad observer.
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
July 06 2010 22:53 GMT
#1025
On July 07 2010 07:46 InfiniteIce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.

I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.

Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.)


good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums

And what stopped kids from doing this before...?


ohhh nothing you are so spot on
now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement

since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree?

First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names.

Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?


At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY.

It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name.

PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Seriously. Thanks.

Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before.
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni

I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided.


No public news, to be sure. I highly doubt that he is currently at peace though, Nony.

I'm an hour away from Bash. I'm half tempted to go say what's up. People in this thread already state they have called/texted Bash. How many internet retards does it take to go beat up Bashiok?

Surely I don't have to explain what happens when you post your info on 4chan.
Some of it is national news-worthy...
This is going the same route.

I just don't think that people should be harassed, outside of the internet, for stating their opinion over the internet. The internet should deal with the internet.

I mean, are you willing to post your contact info publicly, as a moderately well-known person in the community? I wouldn't be..


Most moderately well known people already have their real name public. Sean Plott, for exemple :O
It's not because your name is out there and that your famous that something unfortunate is going to happen. I think it's mostly people being afraid to be held responsible for what they say. If you're that reluctant to be linked to your argument, than just keep it to yourself.
This road isn't leading anywhere...
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
July 06 2010 22:53 GMT
#1026
On July 07 2010 07:49 kajeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:48 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:
[quote]

good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums

And what stopped kids from doing this before...?


ohhh nothing you are so spot on
now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement

since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree?

First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names.

Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?


At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY.

It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name.

PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Seriously. Thanks.

Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before.
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni

I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided.


You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet?

Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.


How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place?

Well, he is NonY. I mean, anybody can find out a ton about NonY, but I don't think anybody's ever tried to stab him...

Possibly because he hasn't done anything as infuriating as what Bashiok has done just possibly though bro. /understatement But peoples stop trying to refute the fact that you are invulnerable on the internet because Bashioks just experienced a baneling bust of privacy. Also you guys are saying the same thing over and over and I, the magnificient genious thought-o-causter is getting bored so cmon now...
MC's strength: confidence weakness: over confidence
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 06 2010 22:54 GMT
#1027
On July 07 2010 07:52 Kishime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:50 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:49 Kishime wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:48 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:
[quote]

ohhh nothing you are so spot on
now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement

since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree?

First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names.

Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?


At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY.

It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name.

PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Seriously. Thanks.

Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before.
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni

I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided.


You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet?

Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.


How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place?


I'm gonna guess people call him and drive by his place every day.


Seriously, lets not be an ass. It's called harassment and affects lots of people in a very negative manner.


Do you think what happened to Bashiok is comparable to what will happen to the thousands of players on bnet after launch? No? It will only happen to the people acting like jackasses? God forbid.


There is no justification to giving more people access to easy real life griefing. I don't understand how people don't see this. It doesn't matter if it only happens to 1 in 100 people, it shouldn't happen at all.
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fatduck
Profile Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
July 06 2010 22:55 GMT
#1028
On July 07 2010 07:52 kajeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:49 fatduck wrote:
Real name = address = almost unlimited griefing potential. Just fake 911 calls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting) can be a devastating prank. Not to mention ordering tons of delivery food, magazine subscriptions that have to be opted out of, etc. This is all shit that can be done over the internet with almost no risk and no effort. Sure, probably no one is going to mailbomb someone who 6 pooled them or go shoot up their house, but plenty of /b/tards know how easy it is to grief someone from the internet with some basic info like name, phone number, and address.

For all the people saying "just don't post on the forums" - what if you need to post in the technical support forums?

How often does this happen to you?

I mean, presumably, lots of people know your full name.

And that's certainly the case if you've ever done anything worthy of note in a local newspaper, high school newsletter, etc.


I've been "swatted" before, by someone who got my real name over the internet (from a rl friend, admittedly). This also occurred along with some other "stalkerish" behavior like threatening emails and phone calls to my mom's house (as this was the address he found using some people finder website). And this was simply because I had annoyed them in a video game. This shit happens all the time.

Sure, tons of people know your real name, but how many of them are otherwise completely anonymous to you? If one of your friends started harassing you, you would probably figure it out eventually. It's much creepier when it's some random idiot on the internet who is raging because you beat them in a game or flamed them on a forum (come on, you're telling me that doesn't happen all the time?).
good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers
Barook
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany143 Posts
July 06 2010 22:55 GMT
#1029
4chan doesn't care that much about Bashiok. He's only the scapegoat for this abomination.

https://www.esrb.org/privacy/contact.jsp would probably be a much smarter move.
"Blink is pretty good, it helps your Stalkers to die quicker."
ThatsNoMoon
Profile Joined March 2010
Mexico344 Posts
July 06 2010 22:57 GMT
#1030
So Bash posted his info:
Micah Whipple

Address:
473 Avenue B
Lakeport, CA 95453-6032

Phone Number:
(707) 263-0190

Age:
28

Family:
Kimberly K Whipple, age: 54
Jason Stephen Whipple, age 34
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/micah.whipple


Honestly, I think it's a terrible idea.
I wouldn't be surprised if Whipple ends up regretting this...
Got neurosis from Artosis cause you bunker rushed my heart GG baby, lets go crazy cause the game's about to start
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 06 2010 22:57 GMT
#1031
On July 07 2010 07:53 MuTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:49 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:48 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:
[quote]
And what stopped kids from doing this before...?


ohhh nothing you are so spot on
now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement

since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree?

First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names.

Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?


At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY.

It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name.

PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Seriously. Thanks.

Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before.
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni

I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided.


You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet?

Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.


How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place?

Well, he is NonY. I mean, anybody can find out a ton about NonY, but I don't think anybody's ever tried to stab him...

Possibly because he hasn't done anything as infuriating as what Bashiok has done just possibly though bro. /understatement But peoples stop trying to refute the fact that you are invulnerable on the internet because Bashioks just experienced a baneling bust of privacy. Also you guys are saying the same thing over and over and I, the magnificient genious thought-o-causter is getting bored so cmon now...

Has IdrA ever been stabbed in the face? Or HuK? These guys are FAMOUS for being jerks.

What happened to Bashiok is pretty obviously a huge exception. Hundreds to thousands of people were trying to make an example of him. This could happen to anybody anywhere who people decide to target -- from the ugly kid in school to a random guy using a handle on the Internet.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
July 06 2010 22:57 GMT
#1032
On July 07 2010 07:54 Myles wrote:

There is no justification to giving more people access to easy real life griefing. I don't understand how people don't see this. It doesn't matter if it only happens to 1 in 100 people, it shouldn't happen at all.


You do understand that 'real life griefing' is also known as harassment, which is illegal? Just because people can get away with that shit online doesn't mean they can offline.
Korean Netizen wrote: My ears died from the static and the music and my eyes died from the depressing gameplay and bad observer.
baskerville
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
541 Posts
July 06 2010 22:58 GMT
#1033
On July 07 2010 07:40 kajeus wrote:
My point, for the sake of clarity, is that nothing is COMPELLING "kids" (teens) to share their names, addresses, or school names. However, all of this information is possibly just as available, if they CHOOSE to post, as it would be if they were written about in the local newspaper, entered a competition somewhere, had their picture in a yearbook, or any number of other possibilities. Do ya see? This ain't even new, man. It's an Internet anomaly, sure, but it's not some gross violation of civil liberties.

Also, I have had only one "double post" in this entire thread.


compelling? how bout social pressure?
its blizz's forum, if the kid loves the game, he won't think twice about it
not to mention that this trend will grow to all games
and all this for...?
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fatduck
Profile Joined April 2010
United States148 Posts
July 06 2010 23:00 GMT
#1034
On July 07 2010 07:57 Shirolol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:54 Myles wrote:

There is no justification to giving more people access to easy real life griefing. I don't understand how people don't see this. It doesn't matter if it only happens to 1 in 100 people, it shouldn't happen at all.


You do understand that 'real life griefing' is also known as harassment, which is illegal? Just because people can get away with that shit online doesn't mean they can offline.


I don't understand this. Obviously internet retards aren't going to go around harassing others in person, because a.) they're cowards and b.) they probably don't live anywhere near the person. They will use one of dozens of real life griefing tactics available to them over the internet, with complete anonymity, as detailed in my previous post.
good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 06 2010 23:00 GMT
#1035
On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.

I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.

Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.)


good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums

And what stopped kids from doing this before...?


ohhh nothing you are so spot on
now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement

since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree?

First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names.

Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?


At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY.

It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name.

PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Seriously. Thanks.

Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before.
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni


That's not Bashiok's info. Lakeport is 500 miles away from Irvine. It's some other Micah Whipple.

Read the comments on the wowriot post, the guy even admitted it's the wrong guy.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
July 06 2010 23:00 GMT
#1036
On July 07 2010 07:15 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:12 Kennigit wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:03 heishe wrote:
On July 07 2010 06:58 Deadlyhazard wrote:
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni


Holy crap!!!


lol this is so fucking good. I hope he gets stormed with phone calls now.

Don't wish that. He's a cool guy. PR storm :x


ah you're right, bashiok is pretty cool. still fucking funny though, he got owned.


Comes off as dickish at times.

To be honest, though, if there was backlash against him, it would increase the pressure on Blizzard to not implement such an astronomically imbecilic programme.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
July 06 2010 23:01 GMT
#1037
On July 07 2010 07:46 InfiniteIce wrote:
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On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:
On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.

I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.

Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.)


good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums

And what stopped kids from doing this before...?


ohhh nothing you are so spot on
now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement

since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree?

First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names.

Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?


At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY.

It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name.

PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Seriously. Thanks.

Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before.
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni

I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided.


No public news, to be sure. I highly doubt that he is currently at peace though, Nony.

I'm an hour away from Bash. I'm half tempted to go say what's up. People in this thread already state they have called/texted Bash. How many internet retards does it take to go beat up Bashiok?

Surely I don't have to explain what happens when you post your info on 4chan.
Some of it is national news-worthy...
This is going the same route.

I just don't think that people should be harassed, outside of the internet, for stating their opinion over the internet. The internet should deal with the internet.

I mean, are you willing to post your contact info publicly, as a moderately well-known person in the community? I wouldn't be..

It has been available for years. All the top players' names have been known for years. Anyone who has participated in WCG has had their name published. Same with TSL. Hell, teamliquid.net has a database with that info. And beyond players, the names of commentators, news writers, fan site staff, Blizzard employees, etc are known. The addresses and real names of all the progamers in Korea are known.

People harass Bashiok now because they're assholes who are mad for reasons that they can't even explain, not because they couldn't harass Bashiok before.

If you don't think people should be harassed for publicly stating an opinion, then encourage the victims of harassment to report incidents to law enforcement. That shit isn't legal.
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InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
July 06 2010 23:01 GMT
#1038
On July 07 2010 07:55 Barook wrote:
4chan doesn't care that much about Bashiok. He's only the scapegoat for this abomination.

https://www.esrb.org/privacy/contact.jsp would probably be a much smarter move.


It's funny that when I look at the list of companies I can complain against, the first one you see by default is Activision.
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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
July 06 2010 23:02 GMT
#1039
On July 07 2010 07:58 baskerville wrote:
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On July 07 2010 07:40 kajeus wrote:
My point, for the sake of clarity, is that nothing is COMPELLING "kids" (teens) to share their names, addresses, or school names. However, all of this information is possibly just as available, if they CHOOSE to post, as it would be if they were written about in the local newspaper, entered a competition somewhere, had their picture in a yearbook, or any number of other possibilities. Do ya see? This ain't even new, man. It's an Internet anomaly, sure, but it's not some gross violation of civil liberties.

Also, I have had only one "double post" in this entire thread.


compelling? how bout social pressure?
its blizz's forum, if the kid loves the game, he won't think twice about it
not to mention that this trend will grow to all games
and all this for...?


Ever seen a kid read a EULA or ToS? Nope.

But I know they've been clicked through a thousand times without a second thought.
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
July 06 2010 23:02 GMT
#1040
On July 07 2010 07:57 kajeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2010 07:53 MuTT wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:49 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:48 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:
On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:
[quote]

ohhh nothing you are so spot on
now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement

since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree?

First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names.

Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?


At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY.

It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name.

PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY.

Seriously. Thanks.

Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before.
http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni

I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided.


You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet?

Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.


How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place?

Well, he is NonY. I mean, anybody can find out a ton about NonY, but I don't think anybody's ever tried to stab him...

Possibly because he hasn't done anything as infuriating as what Bashiok has done just possibly though bro. /understatement But peoples stop trying to refute the fact that you are invulnerable on the internet because Bashioks just experienced a baneling bust of privacy. Also you guys are saying the same thing over and over and I, the magnificient genious thought-o-causter is getting bored so cmon now...

Has IdrA ever been stabbed in the face? Or HuK? These guys are FAMOUS for being jerks.

What happened to Bashiok is pretty obviously a huge exception. Hundreds to thousands of people were trying to make an example of him. This could happen to anybody anywhere who people decide to target -- from the ugly kid in school to a random guy using a handle on the Internet.

Perhaps you will prove to be a worthy opponent *strokes chin*
1. IdrA is in Korea and only bms in english so who is gunna stab him? artosis? LOL
2. Stop exaggerating my statements for I am not amused! There is something called harrassment and that doesn't involve stabbing in the face. For example if you will give me your phone number i will text you hate messages.
3. Your last sentence seems to contradict the rest of your points. I KNOW that this could happen to anybody and that is why it is a problem. We will see something like this: Protoss is hard to play - kid responds maybe if you didn't have such fat fingers *post pic here* you could 1a2a3a - HUMILITAION k bye
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