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On July 07 2010 08:12 RodrigoX wrote:I am not sure if this has been linked but hereIt seems bashiok gave out his real name, and someone found out where he lived, his phone number, his facebook and other personal information. I realize that its only a bnet forum topic but there it is.
Yeah its been posted, and its also been discovered that the person whos information was made public isnt actually Bashiok.
Some poor guy has been getting bombarded with prank calls and texts thanks to a stupid decision by blizzard. This is their fault, and I hope they make some formal apology to that guy.
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Man, this is a grade A shitstorm.
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Instead of just simply increasing forum moderation and punishing violators more severely, they resort to this...
Terrible idea.
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On July 07 2010 08:12 Alou wrote:
Do all of you guys even use their forums? Wasn't there a poll thread where 90% of TL said they never posted there? Just stay posting here. Problem solved.
Sigh yet another young naive one. If you learned a skill that was supposedly taught to you in school called reading you will know that they have future plans for this that may or may not incorporate things that we do all use. namely sc2
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On July 07 2010 08:13 Fen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 08:12 RodrigoX wrote:I am not sure if this has been linked but hereIt seems bashiok gave out his real name, and someone found out where he lived, his phone number, his facebook and other personal information. I realize that its only a bnet forum topic but there it is. Yeah its been posted, and its also been discovered that the person whos information was made public isnt actually Bashiok. Some poor guy has been getting bombarded with prank calls and texts thanks to a stupid decision by blizzard. This is their fault, and I hope they make some formal apology to that guy.
No, take responsibility for your OWN stupidity.
This is NOT Blizzard's fault. This is the fault of the people who decided they had a "point" to prove.
You can pick any name out of the phonebook and rally people to harass that person. This is NOT new, nor is it Blizzard's fault.
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On July 07 2010 08:13 InfiniteIce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 08:01 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:46 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. No public news, to be sure. I highly doubt that he is currently at peace though, Nony. I'm an hour away from Bash. I'm half tempted to go say what's up. People in this thread already state they have called/texted Bash. How many internet retards does it take to go beat up Bashiok? Surely I don't have to explain what happens when you post your info on 4chan. Some of it is national news-worthy... This is going the same route. I just don't think that people should be harassed, outside of the internet, for stating their opinion over the internet. The internet should deal with the internet. I mean, are you willing to post your contact info publicly, as a moderately well-known person in the community? I wouldn't be.. It has been available for years. All the top players' names have been known for years. Anyone who has participated in WCG has had their name published. Same with TSL. Hell, teamliquid.net has a database with that info. And beyond players, the names of commentators, news writers, fan site staff, Blizzard employees, etc are known. The addresses and real names of all the progamers in Korea are known. People harass Bashiok now because they're assholes who are mad for reasons that they can't even explain, not because they couldn't harass Bashiok before. If you don't think people should be harassed for publicly stating an opinion, then encourage the victims of harassment to report incidents to law enforcement. That shit isn't legal. Are you implying that it is then okay/fine for Blizzard's new RealName policy then? And that instead of trying to stop it at the source, we should "encourage the victims of harassment to report incidents to law enforcement"? If so, I really don't agree with this...I'm not saying that to imply that we shouldn't encourage that, or report it ourselves...but if it's a trade-off between "who cares, dont worry about it, or else report it"... It is illegal. Having all this information simply makes the illegal more easy. I'm just not sure I get where you're coming from. There seems to be this general sentiment of "hey, my name's out there, and nothing bad happened to me, you'll be fine too" in this thread. Not just specifically from you, of course... The gamers you might piss off are other people whose names are generally known. If you 4pooled (just an example. I know you can't 4pool with Protoss.) somebody in the TSL, and they wanted to grief you, I expect that either the fear of retaliation, or disqualification, or, as you suggest (rightly so), involvement of law enforcement would most likely deter them from doing anything to you. But you're surrounded by these players. Not everybody is... And not everybody is White, in a White state. Or male. Or straight. Or tactful. That doesn't mean they deserve shit for what happens in a VIDEO GAME.The deterrence from griefing somebody, as provided by any of the above factors, is relatively negligible when you know your victim's name, but they know nothing about you... I'm just not sure I understand the point of view that seems to be implied as "My name's out there, so what?" I think a lot of people have lost sight of reality. This is a video game. You shouldn't be fucked with for shit you do on a video game.
This.
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There is a difference between coming out in the open and asking for people to find stuff about you from your name, and posting on a forum where EVERYONE is using their name.
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rofl i got permanently banned for this :D
* 0. Lets make a BAN HAMMER PARTY ON SC2 LAUNCH! 07/06/2010 03:42:39 PM PDT
YEAH!!!!
With REAL ID Posting coming to the forums I invite all those who will never post again if their full name is registered on their battle.net Account.
The ban hammer party will consist in making Topics violating every single rule of this forum !! And if you are a very good, nice and a lovely person this is your chance to put all the %@*@ out of your heart !!!! BECAUSE IT WILL BE THE LAST TIME YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO IT ANONYMOUSLY!!
My bnet account have my full name (with my 2 last names) and I don't want to give it to any of you trolls out there!!!
And to all the trolls out there! This might be the last weeks of Trolling before you get banned and your wife killed by a assassin hired by the forum freak that you Trolled against!!!
So I want to make the "Battle.net Ban Hammer Party" to get us all banned so we don't post by mistake in this forums until they give us the option of removing our Full Real names from posts.
Anyway, i've always wanted to say how much I hate Activision for destroying the Trust that I had on Blizzard, and maybe a lot of Blizzard customers thinks the same.
I will keep playing your games, but when it comes to customer service you guys are nuts.
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well, i wouldn't post again anyway and I will make a new battle.net account for sure.
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googliing my own name brings back my facebook, tmblr blog.... and most people dont have a tumblr..
soo. if i were to quit my job and find a new one... the second or third thing they would see is blizzard starcraft forums... im not ashamed of my gaming habits.. but i think thats pretty retarded, i dont want my employer to know how much im obsessed with a game .. (unless its a games company  )
Not too mention if someone has the same name as you.. my name is pretty hectic unique.. but for people like john hunter or something.. well your pretty muched screwed... even if you dont post as surely someone else could have the same name.
I do a fair bit of the hiring where i work.. and when we are looking at new employees we always google and facebook them... even before having them in for an interview...
i think... this is a very bad idea.
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On July 07 2010 08:02 KlaCkoN wrote:
[So some completly random guy has been getting 1000s of disturbing phone calls flaming him for no reason? Yay that makes me feel much better about this whole thing -.-
rofl best part is he'll never know why.
on a serious note i can't imagine why blizz is locking/deleting all user posts about this on their forums, they knew what was going to happen and what are they trying to hide or stop it?
blizz will prolly revolution their forums with this in a good way(good ideas usually seem like bad ones at first), though it will take so long to take effect the first fews months i expect desolate boards but then again the harassment....
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On July 07 2010 08:15 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 08:13 Fen wrote:On July 07 2010 08:12 RodrigoX wrote:I am not sure if this has been linked but hereIt seems bashiok gave out his real name, and someone found out where he lived, his phone number, his facebook and other personal information. I realize that its only a bnet forum topic but there it is. Yeah its been posted, and its also been discovered that the person whos information was made public isnt actually Bashiok. Some poor guy has been getting bombarded with prank calls and texts thanks to a stupid decision by blizzard. This is their fault, and I hope they make some formal apology to that guy. No, take responsibility for your OWN stupidity. This is NOT Blizzard's fault. This is the fault of the people who decided they had a "point" to prove. You can pick any name out of the phonebook and rally people to harass that person. This is NOT new, nor is it Blizzard's fault.
Okay my supposed Arch nemesis your reasoning and foresight are weak! you are no true opponent Plz somebody say something to refute me atleast because i am ronery! Anyways making forums show their real name is infact (despite unpopular belief) their fault. Why? Because it is an over reaction to the troll problem that was caused by lack of moderation in the first place. And this will not stop trolls they will still have to ban them. The only thing that has changed is that there name will be Ben Dover instead of puppydrowner or w.e. Also you last statement was so fail lol i wish i worked for failbog cuz i would put you on it gg!
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On July 07 2010 08:16 Backpack wrote:
There is a difference between coming out in the open and asking for people to find stuff about you from your name, and posting on a forum where EVERYONE is using their name.
A *very big* difference. This is a HUGE distinction.
And given this distinction, I think it's even MORE remarkable that IdrA, HuK, and KawaiiRice (e.g.) have never been personally targeted IRL for their online BMing.
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On July 07 2010 08:15 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 08:13 Fen wrote:On July 07 2010 08:12 RodrigoX wrote:I am not sure if this has been linked but hereIt seems bashiok gave out his real name, and someone found out where he lived, his phone number, his facebook and other personal information. I realize that its only a bnet forum topic but there it is. Yeah its been posted, and its also been discovered that the person whos information was made public isnt actually Bashiok. Some poor guy has been getting bombarded with prank calls and texts thanks to a stupid decision by blizzard. This is their fault, and I hope they make some formal apology to that guy. No, take responsibility for your OWN stupidity. This is NOT Blizzard's fault. This is the fault of the people who decided they had a "point" to prove. You can pick any name out of the phonebook and rally people to harass that person. This is NOT new, nor is it Blizzard's fault.
1. I did not send anything or phone anything
2. Yes this is blizzards fault. A high profile person put out the challenge to see what people could do with a name. That high profile person is at fault for the resulting problems to an innocent person.
3. Being a spokesperson for Blizzard, that high profile person represents the company. And the company is accountable for his actions. Thus Blizzard ARE at fault.
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On July 07 2010 08:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Read the comments on the wowriot post, the guy even admitted it's the wrong guy.
That comment sounded more like sarcasm than an admission to me. Besides, the original post hasn't been edited.
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On July 07 2010 08:19 MuTT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 08:15 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 08:13 Fen wrote:On July 07 2010 08:12 RodrigoX wrote:I am not sure if this has been linked but hereIt seems bashiok gave out his real name, and someone found out where he lived, his phone number, his facebook and other personal information. I realize that its only a bnet forum topic but there it is. Yeah its been posted, and its also been discovered that the person whos information was made public isnt actually Bashiok. Some poor guy has been getting bombarded with prank calls and texts thanks to a stupid decision by blizzard. This is their fault, and I hope they make some formal apology to that guy. No, take responsibility for your OWN stupidity. This is NOT Blizzard's fault. This is the fault of the people who decided they had a "point" to prove. You can pick any name out of the phonebook and rally people to harass that person. This is NOT new, nor is it Blizzard's fault. Okay my supposed Arch nemesis your reasoning and foresight are weak! you are no true opponent Plz somebody say something to refute me atleast because i am ronery! Anyways making forums show their real name is infact (despite unpopular belief) their fault. Why? Because it is an over reaction to the troll problem that was caused by lack of moderation in the first place. And this will not stop trolls they will still have to ban them. The only thing that has changed is that there name will be Ben Dover instead of puppydrowner or w.e. Also you last statement was so fail lol i wish i worked for failbog cuz i would put you on it gg!
This is so fucking full of lulz. I like you.
Especially the bold.
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I am fine with the real id system, but I would never post on a public forum with my real name. Pretty sure on the 27th everyone will create a new battle.net account with a fake name.
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Even if 3/4 of the forum poster stop posting, will it even matter?
Posting on the blizzard forum is a privilege, not a right.
If you decide not to post, fine. You can still read.
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I think they will eventually make it optional.
I hope blizzard decides to open beta phase 2 today to stuff our mouths with sc2 so that we don't talk.
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On July 07 2010 08:12 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 08:07 indczn wrote:On July 07 2010 08:00 Excalibur_Z wrote:
That's not Bashiok's info. Lakeport is 500 miles away from Irvine. It's some other Micah Whipple.
Read the comments on the wowriot post, the guy even admitted it's the wrong guy. This makes it so much better. Some random guy is getting harassed solely for having the same name as someone, who posted on a forum. And blizzard wants people to be identified by their name. But its okay, no harm can come from a something public like a name. LOL, but this could have happened at ANY time in the history of the Internet. All you gotta do is think you know who somebody is... It's not a problem created or exacerbated by Blizzard's proposed policy. :D
It may not be a problem created by blizz, but it's definitely exacerbated by this, it's 0 work to get a name now, which would be the hardest part of tracking someone down from online info, so more people will find it easier to harass people, even if it's just some person with the same name. Think trolling IRL
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On July 07 2010 08:07 Drakan wrote:*daramtic exposure*
Yep, lawmakers will have to play a bit of catch up there because all of that is illegal AND traceable. After a few people got a few years sentence things will calm WAY down.
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