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On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet?
Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.
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On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided.
No public news, to be sure. I highly doubt that he is currently at peace though, Nony.
I'm an hour away from Bash. I'm half tempted to go say what's up. People in this thread already state they have called/texted Bash. How many internet retards does it take to go beat up Bashiok?
Surely I don't have to explain what happens when you post your info on 4chan.
Some of it is national news-worthy...
This is going the same route.
I just don't think that people should be harassed, outside of the internet, for stating their opinion over the internet. The internet should deal with the internet.
I mean, are you willing to post your contact info publicly, as a moderately well-known person in the community? I wouldn't be..
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On July 07 2010 07:42 kajeus wrote:Mike, I'm really not sure at all what you have to be outraged about. 
Hey, man, maybe he just wants to show us some kittens. What are you assuming? 
No public news, to be sure. I highly doubt that he is currently at peace though, Nony.
I'm an hour away from Bash. I'm half tempted to go say what's up. People in this thread already state they have called/texted Bash. How many internet retards does it take to go beat up Bashiok?
Surely I don't have to explain what happens when you post your info on 4chan.
Some of it is national news-worthy...
This is going the same route.
He'll deal with it the same way every Blizzard employee who has had their name public deals with it. It's not new.
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On July 07 2010 07:44 Shirolol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:36 baskerville wrote:
is it really ridiculous to try and protect people from worse things than troll rants and spams?
is it ridiculous for people to ask that blizz keeps its standards for the sake of kids and adults alike...
maybe you can't imagine what bad things could ensue, personally i'm not as optimistic as you are and i think the slippery slope is just beginning ...
Your argument of: There will be a mass genocide because people can see other peoples names, does not work. I can see where you are coming from BUT at the same time what is stopping me from going out right now and killing the first person I see? Nothing is, but I don't. And 99.9% of the world doesn't either. Anyone that was going to do something like that will do it whether they can see my name in a blizzard forum or not, because they are mentally unstable. Not because one of my favourite movies is Blues Brothers.
God you people are soo freaking..... "ignorant". Privacy was what was stopping people from finding you because... you know.. they don't know how to find you. Its just another one of my crazy theories but again privacy is working out well for Bin Laden.
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I'm just wondering (I know this is a huge issue..and Blizzard did really drop the ball here...but...)..
Aren't there more than one person named X Y? Can you REALLY do that much damage with a name (because i'm sure you'll find more than one person with a name of X Y...and you might pick on the wrong person)?
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On July 07 2010 07:46 InfiniteIce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. No public news, to be sure. I highly doubt that he is currently at peace though, Nony. I'm an hour away from Bash. I'm half tempted to go say what's up. People in this thread already state they have called/texted Bash. How many internet retards does it take to go beat up Bashiok? Surely I don't have to explain what happens when you post your info on 4chan. Some of it is national news-worthy... This is going the same route.
You should go see Bashiok! You might become friends!
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On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet? Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.
How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place?
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Let us not break out any kittens. I rather see the community save the effort for stuff that is actually really important such as in game issues.
Don't get me wrong as I said before this real-id on bnet forums thing is fucking stupid. Its almost unimaginably stupid. BUT we can just not post on the forums. You don't need real id to post on TL. If anything the best thing to do would be nothing because no one will be posting on the blizzard forums if they go through with this and well thats not our loss.
While this is definitely a weird enough move by blizzard to warrant 50 pages of "lol wtf" I don't think that there is any worth in doing anything more than that.
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quoted from the op from that wowriot post:
"I'm not gonna do anything for 1, I don't live in the US. 2, this guy hasn't done anything except make a bad decision by trying to defend something stupid.
However, there are hundreds of cases where people have used violence against someone because of something said on the internet, this makes it really easy to track people down."
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On July 07 2010 07:43 InfiniteIce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:40 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:35 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:31 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Hey man, I already read about Bashoik. :D Feel free to look back earlier in the thread to see my response. Your arguments are inconsistent and make no sense. Take responsibility or don't post. Implications that it's not ok to share school names and home addresses. Having read about Bash, and knowing that this is possible to happen to YOU, I really do not see how you are making any logical point at all. Shit poster. And I don't say that lightly. Having dealt with you in the IRC and now on the forums, it appears your are simply ignorant.. Oh, and feel free to stop double and triple posting to boost your post count all day. That's like the 5th time in 3 pages. If you would like to prove yourself, please post your real name. The internet will do the rest. Jeez, people on the Internet are so angry. I don't even remember going on "the IRC". :-/ My point, for the sake of clarity, is that nothing is COMPELLING "kids" (teens) to share their names, addresses, or school names. However, all of this information is possibly just as available, if they CHOOSE to post, as it would be if they were written about in the local newspaper, entered a competition somewhere, had their picture in a yearbook, or any number of other possibilities. Do ya see? This ain't even new, man. It's an Internet anomaly, sure, but it's not some gross violation of civil liberties. Also, I have had only one "double post" in this entire thread. Ok, you're right. I apologize about the double post comment. Local newspapers: Are local. Yearbooks: Are local. Competitions: Are restricted to those who care about them. The internet: hate machine. Worldwide. You don't see the difference between newspapers and the internet? Seriously?
Hmm... I dunno about where you live, but even the Duluth, Minnesota local newspaper has a constantly updated website: http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/
And then we got http://www.e-yearbook.com/... :D
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On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet? Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.
Excuse me Mr. Nony i respect you so much that I will go easy on you. People are calling his number and even i sent him a SMS message so yeah.. that can run up your bill bro thats like money and stuff. Also we can send him hate mail because we know where he lives. And for the more zealous they can give him a visit.
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On July 07 2010 07:48 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet? Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok. How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place?
I'm gonna guess people call him and drive by his place every day.
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On July 07 2010 07:44 Shirolol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:36 baskerville wrote:
is it really ridiculous to try and protect people from worse things than troll rants and spams?
is it ridiculous for people to ask that blizz keeps its standards for the sake of kids and adults alike...
maybe you can't imagine what bad things could ensue, personally i'm not as optimistic as you are and i think the slippery slope is just beginning ...
Your argument of: There will be a mass genocide because people can see other peoples names, does not work. I can see where you are coming from BUT at the same time what is stopping me from going out right now and killing the first person I see? Nothing is, but I don't. And 99.9% of the world doesn't either. Anyone that was going to do something like that will do it whether they can see my name in a blizzard forum or not, because they are mentally unstable. Not because one of my favourite movies is Blues Brothers.
His arguement is more: Blizzard is making it a lot easier for unstable people to take their gaming issues out into the real world, for little to no gain. The problem is the link between your online persona and your IRL persona. The danger is there, we might not see it right now fx. with the GM posting his name, but a nutjob still has a lot easier time getting to him, if he wants to now that he has somewhere to start.
This is not forgetting the issue girls will have hiding that they are girls. There's a lot of harassment that girls online have to endure and I dare say *most* would rather try avoid/prevent.
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On July 07 2010 07:48 Myles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet? Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok. How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place?
Well, he is NonY. I mean, anybody can find out a ton about NonY, but I don't think anybody's ever tried to stab him...
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Real name = address = almost unlimited griefing potential. Just fake 911 calls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting) can be a devastating prank. Not to mention ordering tons of delivery food, magazine subscriptions that have to be opted out of, etc. This is all shit that can be done over the internet with almost no risk and no effort. Sure, probably no one is going to mailbomb someone who 6 pooled them or go shoot up their house, but plenty of /b/tards know how easy it is to grief someone from the internet with some basic info like name, phone number, and address.
For all the people saying "just don't post on the forums" - what if you need to post in the technical support forums?
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On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet? Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok.
If I were a Blizzard employee caught in this ragestorm and all of that information of mine was posted, I'd pray to god it didn't get to 4chan or anything of the sort. Some people on the internet can take things to the absolute extreme, and just because it may not happen to Bashiok, who's to say it will never happen to anyone ever? I think it's kind of silly to make it seem like it's not a big deal. Yeah it might not be 99% of the time, but does that really make it okay? That 1% is still going to suffer from it. The internet has a lot of insane people who will do a lot of insane shit if given the proper information.
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On July 07 2010 07:49 Kishime wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:48 Myles wrote:On July 07 2010 07:45 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:44 Myles wrote:On July 07 2010 07:41 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 07 2010 07:29 InfiniteIce wrote:On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:
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good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums
And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share? At this point I SERIOUSLY doubt that you are reading this thread at all. READ WHAT HAPPENED TO BASHIOK BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR NEXT REPLY. It is very evident that you do not have to share your address and phone number etc., in order for people to find it using only your full name. PLEASE. READ ABOUT BASHIOK BEFORE YOU REPLY. Seriously. Thanks. Edit: link for everybody's convenience, though it's been posted before. http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni I don't understand... is this sarcastic? Nothing happened to Bashiok in the link you provided. You mean besides the fact that his telephone number, address, and living condition was broadcast out to the internet? Yeah. Since none of those things has affected him. I'm wondering if anything of significance has happened to Bashiok. How do you know nobody has called him or driven past his place? I'm gonna guess people call him and drive by his place every day.
Seriously, lets not be an ass. It's called harassment and affects lots of people in a very negative manner.
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I'm also concerned why people think they need to post on Blizzard forums suddenly.
I remember yesterday someone asking why anyone would post anything on the Blizzard forum (meaning that they are full of retards)
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On July 07 2010 07:37 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Time to break out the kittens...
Fuck Kittens, use Puppies this time.
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On July 07 2010 07:25 kajeus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:22 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 07:08 kajeus wrote:On July 07 2010 07:07 baskerville wrote:On July 07 2010 06:49 Shirolol wrote:
I honestly don't see what the problem is at all, why would I care if someone knows where I live and what my name is? Or anything about me for that matter.
I think you're all being a tad paranoid here talking about e-stalking and the likes, this change means nothing apart from the people that act like tumors might stop now - and is that a bad thing? I don't think it is.
Either way I never post on the blizzard forums, it provides nothing I can't get elsewhere - and generally of a higher quality. (Here, for example.) good for you, how bout kids who don't know better and are careless about what they divulge online? blizz/activision are setting a dangerous standard for game forums And what stopped kids from doing this before...? ohhh nothing you are so spot on now they'll do it thinking it's expected, that's hardly an improvement since the launch of the internet the proper authorities have declared endlessly that the ONLY way to protect people from the dangers of the internet is to prevent (mostly kids and fragile people but it concerns everyone) from divulging their identity online (and any other info that are liable to be used by dangerous people) ... it's the only way that the professionals advocate, who are we to disagree? First of all, young kids can't legally post on a public forum with their real names. Second, how on earth did you decide that, because the Blizzard forums are real-name-only, everyone is going to assume that addresses and school names are also OK to share?
sorry if i was unclear
i'm saying that a company like blizz should not pave the way for disclosing very useful info about someone : his or her name
if a kid loves this game and is half the rebel i was, he'll be more inclined to disregard any potential dangers from the internet... probably won't even think of it since the company promoting it doesn't tell him that, and furthermore makes him identify himself to gain access to the "real important forum" (that's the kid talking)
i assume everyone agrees that there are dangerous people out there and my point is don't provide them with easy access, don't promote carelessness on forums for kids
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