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Real ID is a really good idea in concept, track your buddies cross games, converse with people and such, except it's being poorly done in nearly every aspect.
Already most of the Blizzard forums are up in arms over this, and quite frankly I can't blame them. This is backlash they need to fix quickly if they want to keep some respect.
*sigh* Please someone hit blizzard on the head, I think they've lost it for real this time.
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Let's hope that reddit annoucement is for real. Still hard to believe Blizzard even DARES asking if the community was ok with that. Looks like they are continuously pushing the borders - like a child: take a risk, remain unpunished, take a bigger risk, continue this until receiving a slap in the face and learning from it. The Community sure has slapped a lot, on several occasions. Looks like Blizzard has cheeks of steal.
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Please someone hit blizzard on the head, I think they've lost it for real this time. Haha exactly what I am saying =)
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I dont see why this is bad for girls. If your a creep irl do you walk up to a stranger and talk to her? Why would they act as if they would with an alias when they dont have one themselves anymore?
No seriously creepy dudes on the internet are actually a threat to chicks, not specifically IRL but if you've never been around when a chick gets on Ventrilo with a bunch of nerds, it's something you have to experience. Granted, not every dude on the internet is a creep, but there are MORE than enough creepy dudes to make the desire to hide gender valid.
If you're of the opinion that females do not get a disproportionate amount of unwanted attention on the internet, that's cool, but the general trend is creepy dudes make being a chick online more difficult than being a dude.
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On July 07 2010 04:31 Razor[cF] wrote:
I don't have a problem with releasing my name, but there are many people who could be harmed directly or collaterally without knowing it. I definitely think this is a bad idea. First, we're not talking about a widespread Internet REVOLUTION. People decide whether to post on the Bnet forums. I think I've only posted there once, and that was definitely trolling...
Second, you give out your real name every day, right? Or were you Razor[cF] through school?
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Congratulations, but now what? The point I'm making is that looking up that information is trivial. Anyone can find out that information about you in many different ways.
No one cares who you are on the internet. If you're paranoid that someone is going to track you down based on your name, you need to GTFO the internet ASAP.
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If you want more information friend one of his friends likely he didn't set his settings to be friends only, further more if you have tech skills make an app for facebook and you can data mine by again the use of one of his friends as with facebook you don't need to actually get the person you're aiming for to get their info you only need someone who is friends with him.
There is a reason why the ACLU hates facebook.
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27 years old. Married to a woman named Stephanie. Has a young daughter.
Narrowed down to a few possible locations. Most likely you live in Orem Utah and attend school in West Valley. Otherwise, there's phone numbers for San Diego and Mountain View locations. The fact that you're the second helps, but that's nothing that couldn't be fixed with a phone call.
And a few inferences. Politically aligned liberal. Most likely a goon.
Keep in mind this is only what I've found in the past 10 minutes. A little bit of /effort or social engineering could get me a lot more. What'd you get using my information?
Nothing because I don't care.
It's actually Taylorsville (from the US Midnight Release thread), I'm 29, and I attend SLCC to finish off my long delay AS because I'm a lazy ass. Oh I forgot, I am a goon and my name there is Mulloy as well. Wooo. The rest is accurate!
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On July 07 2010 04:34 Parnage wrote: Real ID is a really good idea in concept, track your buddies cross games, converse with people and such, except it's being poorly done in nearly every aspect.
Already most of the Blizzard forums are up in arms over this, and quite frankly I can't blame them. This is backlash they need to fix quickly if they want to keep some respect.
*sigh* Please someone hit blizzard on the head, I think they've lost it for real this time. OF COURSE the Blizzard forums are up in arms. It's like you're telling me my bad breath germs are protesting my purchase of Scope.
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On July 07 2010 04:20 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 04:15 McDonalds wrote:On July 07 2010 03:56 keV. wrote:On July 07 2010 03:52 ikkyixo wrote:On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote: Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! Blizzard is only showing your First and Last name, not all the credentials you're stating. And I'll bite on your challenge: Gregory Dodd. Have fun. On July 07 2010 03:52 McDonalds wrote:On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote: Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! You're not the first person to post this and you won't be the second person I reply to about it. I find it so amusing that people keep posting things like this as proof that it doesn't matter, where, meanwhile, in the Blizzard WoW thread, several people have done the same and been met with tons of their personal information: Including relatives and job history. To argue that you can't get a lot from just someones name is insane, obviously it is incredibly dependent on the common-ness of the name and internet history. Just because you think you are invincible (and you might be!) that doesn't mean there isn't someone who can be really hurt with just their name available. How can you be that short sighted and selfish? Pay attention to what is being said and think about it a second. My name is not common. I would be surprised if there were more than a dozen people in the world who have it. It's quite strange to me that you would suggest that I'm being selfish when none of this actually has anything to do with me. I'm not going to gain something from Blizzard telling the world your name. Ideally I would like everyone to be safe but let's face facts here. It's not like Facebook where you forget some setting and all of your bikini pictures are exposed to your network. It's going to be plainly obvious. You can't really protect people from themselves. I imagine that the individuals who had their relatives mentioned had Facebooks with relatives in their friends. I imagine that the individuals who had their job history mentioned have online resumes. This stuff was already out there. The idea that Blizzard is somehow making it worse is almost absurd. Like I said before, I could probably find a lot of your names from something like an AIM address. And I have, multiple times. I relayed a post earlier that I think accurately reflects my stance on the issue of "It's out there." Facebook is a social networking site that is primarily used for facilitating EXISTING relationships. It is by choice people go there and upload pictures of them at the beach with their friends. Linking the two doesn't make any sense. One is a game, one is a site where you intend to put yourself on the web. Do I really have to argue why some people might want their gaming habits kept on the down low? (for the record, I personally don't care.. but its not about me) Think about the piece of mind that some (a large number) of Blizzard customers loose, for the POSSIBILITY of a better forum... It doesn't add up and I think it is insane of a company to do that to their users.
First of all I think your image of Facebook is grossly naive. Nobody has more than like 20 relationships in real life that are properly represented by the kinds of intense and immediate interactions Facebook facilitates. And how many friends do people tend to have on Facebook, 100? 200? The whole thing encourages you to add people indiscriminately.
Secondly, yeah people choose to reveal dumb information about themselves on Facebook. They will also choose whether or not to post on the forum. I'd be the first to tell you that people have a hard time figuring out what they really want and what is good for them, but ultimately Blizzard is not responsible for that. I personally think Facebook should not exist but I can only blame them for their security failures and the way they manipulate their users. The rest is on the users themselves, I'm sad to say.
There's one more thing I want to point out. In my experience most of the time when someone's real name shows up on a website like 4chan, it's not because of some random comment on a forum. It's because someone that person knew in real life or had friended on Facebook thought there was something funny or stupid about them and made others aware of it.
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On July 07 2010 04:26 Mulloy wrote:Haha, I just realized that before opening this thread or just after it I posted in the US Midnight release thread, providing the address of where I'll be picking up my copy on release night. Wooo~ Edit: Show nested quote +Again, let me be the one to decide whether I want to take some fight for the greater good at the expense of whatever sorts of personal information about myself I wouldn't wish to reveal for some of the people I interact with. My name is used in so many different kinds of social environments, that I feel as if I should have some sort of right to control what sort of associations would come with it.
There's a reason when a business partner asks me what my hobbies are, I'm not going to respond world of warcraft. Furthermore I don't know exactly what situation I might be in say 2 years from now, as from what I have experienced things could come to change very fast. I can't tell for certain that those associations wouldn't be derogatory for my "image." No, you're free to be as reclusive as you want to be, but you still have the decision as to what shows up online in your name. (Well, barring people spoofing your name.) You still have the choice to post or not post, and even if you do post, you still have some degree of flexibility in whether your Real ID can be tied to anything else if you have a more common name, though that, of course, is debatable depending on names. Ultimately though I'm still of the opinion that gaming isn't the stigma it was in the 80s. You had people seriously linking games to worshiping the devil.With the popularity of the various Madden titles and all the other sports games, I really don't see why you wouldn't want to tear down the stereotype, but this change wouldn't make you expose yourself. You can still just not post on the battle.net forums, which are typically the worst place for anything other than blue text, which is often decried anyway. It's still your choice either way. I mean I work in Utah and make no attempts to hide the fact that I'm an atheist, so I guess my concerns about playing video games 'tarnishing' my reputation is a little lower on my priority scale. Yeah as I said in my previous post, I'm aware. It's just that it's starting to get blatantly obvious where all of this is heading, blizzard wants your real persona somehow attached to your gaming alias. But even then, it's their product, and they can do whatever the hell they want with it.
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On July 07 2010 04:32 Offhand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:51 Mulloy wrote:On July 07 2010 03:48 Offhand wrote: Mentioned this on another forum but no one took up the challenge. If you're cool with this change please include your first and last name, email address, bnet account name, and facebook profile.
In the meantime, you can get as much info as you want off the following hints: Offhand, United States.
Thanks! Michael David Mulloy II Gozoku@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/#!/michael.mulloyHave fun? 27 years old. Married to a woman named Stephanie. Has a young daughter. Narrowed down to a few possible locations. Most likely you live in Orem Utah and attend school in West Valley. Otherwise, there's phone numbers for San Diego and Mountain View locations. The fact that you're the second helps, but that's nothing that couldn't be fixed with a phone call. And a few inferences. Politically aligned liberal. Most likely a goon. Keep in mind this is only what I've found in the past 10 minutes. A little bit of /effort or social engineering could get me a lot more. What'd you get using my information?
Ohhh find me next! I'm genuinely curious as to what you'll find.
Jim O'Hearn.
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completely wrong thread, yay ~
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On July 07 2010 04:35 Mulloy wrote:Show nested quote +
27 years old. Married to a woman named Stephanie. Has a young daughter.
Narrowed down to a few possible locations. Most likely you live in Orem Utah and attend school in West Valley. Otherwise, there's phone numbers for San Diego and Mountain View locations. The fact that you're the second helps, but that's nothing that couldn't be fixed with a phone call.
And a few inferences. Politically aligned liberal. Most likely a goon.
Keep in mind this is only what I've found in the past 10 minutes. A little bit of /effort or social engineering could get me a lot more. What'd you get using my information?
Nothing because I don't care. It's actually Taylorsville (from the US Midnight Release thread), I'm 29, and I attend SLCC to finish off my long delay AS because I'm a lazy ass. Seems trivial now but the information that you let loose in the public is commonly used against you when you get hired to any job with merit. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/12/court_rules_against_teacher_in.html
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so you put people's personal information out in the open just to reduce trolling? What the fuck? People will troll, SO WHAT? It's not even CLOSE to being worth what they're doing now. Blizzard could you know, hire more moderators with that bottomless pit of money they have. Anything that puts more pressure on the end user and less on themselves, what a joke.
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On July 07 2010 04:35 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote: Congratulations, but now what? The point I'm making is that looking up that information is trivial. Anyone can find out that information about you in many different ways.
No one cares who you are on the internet. If you're paranoid that someone is going to track you down based on your name, you need to GTFO the internet ASAP.
Some of us would just rather not share our names, but might have something to contribute to the battle.net community. Why is wrong to want the option to not share our names? I think that's all people are asking for and it's not an unreasonable request.
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I can't wait till debt collectors and personalized advertising bots log on to level 1 toons (after having my real name) and spamming me with tells.
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This is so bad I wish there was someone from Blizzard nearby so I could punch them. Like, really terrible.
People on WoW forums are also flipping out insanely, thread reach 3000 replies in like 1 hour.
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On July 07 2010 04:39 Serpico wrote: so you put people's personal information out in the open just to reduce trolling? What the fuck? People will troll, SO WHAT? It's not even CLOSE to being worth what they're doing now. Blizzard could you know, hire more moderators with that bottomless pit of money they have. Anything that puts more pressure on the end user and less on themselves, what a joke. Yup trolling doesn't go away same with shitty posting if you remove a name tag and assign their real names. Some people really are that stupid irl, hire moderators and set standards...
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On July 07 2010 04:39 vesicular wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 04:35 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote: Congratulations, but now what? The point I'm making is that looking up that information is trivial. Anyone can find out that information about you in many different ways.
No one cares who you are on the internet. If you're paranoid that someone is going to track you down based on your name, you need to GTFO the internet ASAP. Some of us would just rather not share our names, but might have something to contribute to the battle.net community. Why is wrong to want the option to not share our names? I think that's all people are asking for and it's not an unreasonable request. I'm not saying it's "wrong", it's just silly to be paranoid about sharing your first and last name when things like your IP is freely viewable, not to mention there are so many areas of your life where your name is available (phone book, job, friends, family, etc...).
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