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I am Sturmlight.Yeast on battle.net. I am not a pro Starcraft player nor do I intend to be [I believe pro-play takes a certain fun away from the core experience]. However, I AM what I would call a Casual Hardcore Starcraft player who will use all the tools at his disposal to NATURALLY win WITHOUT rushing. A natural win to me includes the development of buildings, units, and additional bases necessary to out-resource my opponent (in the end game, past 30 minutes of play) and to use my position to destroy all their buildings. A rush to me is unnatural, and it disturbs my perception of Starcraft.
..natural win? No, thank you. Any win is a win, pure and simple. Assuming you're basing any changes you want to do on this core argument I wholeheartedly have to disagree with them.
EDIT: People do realise he wants rushfree games right? You know, kind of like the guy you played in that placement match that called you a noob for doing anything aggressive to his base within the first 15 minutes?
Any sort of changes that condones this attitude would purely hurt the game, in my honest opinion.
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The colon ( : ) in the title confused me. At first I thought it was Blizzard who said "Its time...". Also i wouldn't mind if sc2 was released a couple of months later to polish it more, but i don't think Blizz can afford it.
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On June 13 2010 04:34 Lz wrote:
release now..
fix later
whatever happened to "it's ready when it's ready"
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Your sir win the internet...
For longest and most uninteresting post ever!
User was warned for this post
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Katowice25012 Posts
I don't disagree with a lot of the ideas here, but I'm not sure you gave consideration to how busy every single person on anything SC2 related is right now.
My advice to you is to try to express your points in a way that won't take up an entire lunch hour to read.
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1. even though some people are outraged about Bnet 2.0, it will not impact sales. Look at MW2, incredibly successful even though there was rage about no dedicated servers.
2. Bnet 2.0 is a cross game service, Blizzard has addressed that they will be looking to deal with complaints about Bnet 2.0, but they already put to much effort into it that a delay would fix any sooner then patching. Delay would just mean that people can't play the game while Blizzard works on a solution. If they release the game people can enjoy it and they can work on balance and have a lot of there staff transition to working on stuff like the expansions. Bnet 2.0 will still be worked on and patches will come and address issues that we have with Bnet 2.0
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What I find most amazing about this is if the letter was one word longer it would be exactly 6000 words.
ps. I think it's good he wrote this essay or whatever you want to call it because it shoes that the community really cares about these issues.
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To blizzadr the conflict with Diablo III is way more important that short-term issues. They have never been concerned when news or gamer sites complain they delay/cancel projects.
However it is impossible to judge at this point how much the ActivsionBlizzard ceo former club owner, hussler and give2shits about videogames and his employees Bobby K will force the issue.
Also I'm not sure that blizzard thinks there game is a fail. They may simply not agree with us.
I'm not sure why people find that shocking, but you know they might acutally just not agree. And they might even be right, we'll have to see.
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Well I can't really say anything other than, you should have made your post 60% shorter and saved yourself a whole lot of time. Blizzard will be releasing the game on July 27th, 2010, regardless of what anyone says - this is because Blizzard NEVER has announced an actual release date in the past and then delayed the game. They have announced 'QX Year X' many times, and delayed, or even cancelled projects, but once Blizzard announces an exact date, that's it, the game is coming out then and nothing is going to change that. I can't say I disagree with your complaints about the game, but I'd much rather buy the game and wait for some patches to fix the issues (as I'm sure everyone else would) than force the game to be delayed even further than it already has been.
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United States47024 Posts
On June 13 2010 04:43 gillon wrote:Show nested quote +I am Sturmlight.Yeast on battle.net. I am not a pro Starcraft player nor do I intend to be [I believe pro-play takes a certain fun away from the core experience]. However, I AM what I would call a Casual Hardcore Starcraft player who will use all the tools at his disposal to NATURALLY win WITHOUT rushing. A natural win to me includes the development of buildings, units, and additional bases necessary to out-resource my opponent (in the end game, past 30 minutes of play) and to use my position to destroy all their buildings. A rush to me is unnatural, and it disturbs my perception of Starcraft. ..natural win? No, thank you. Any win is a win, pure and simple. Assuming you're basing any changes you want to do on this core argument I wholeheartedly have to disagree with them. EDIT: People do realise he wants rushfree games right? You know, kind of like the guy you played in that placement match that called you a noob for doing anything aggressive to his base within the first 15 minutes? Any sort of changes that condones this attitude would purely hurt the game, in my honest opinion.
I agree. He's done a clever job of hiding this anti-competitive mentality within paragraphs and paragraphs of stuff that everyone knows and will agree with.
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Stop wasting your time and go watch the World Cup instead =P
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I agree with points, (esp on the sounds), but wow that took a LOONNNGGG time to read.
A nice post though.
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Im pretty sure Blizzard reads all these letters, I hope this one gets special attention, hopefully you posted it on blizzards forum aswell. I totally aggree with some stuff and I belive Blizzard could put some more ''umph'' to their product and cater the very large and the most important audience being the audience between casual and the pro's.
However, I dont belive it will serve anything to delay the game.
I hope however to see more clearly what they are working on and see improvements and direction in the next beta phase. If they can atleast show that they are fixing issues that need to be fixed and communicate it clearly, they wont lose a customer and the game will be great with a equally great community.
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On June 13 2010 04:50 Galleon.frigate wrote:
To blizzadr the conflict with Diablo III is way more important that short-term issues. They have never been concerned when news or gamer sites complain they delay/cancel projects.
However it is impossible to judge at this point how much the ActivsionBlizzard ceo former club owner, hussler and give2shits about videogames and his employees Bobby K will force the issue.
Also I'm not sure that blizzard thinks there game is a fail. They may simply not agree with us.
I'm not sure why people find that shocking, but you know they might acutally just not agree. And they might even be right, we'll have to see.
The thing is that Blizzard is a company that has to make money. How do they do this? They sell tons of copies.
This does not HAVE TO equate to what I believe most TL users want to see in the game. If they feel like me, they want SC2 to be a good arena for competetive play and THE new RTS to play if you want to really match your skill versus others.
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On June 13 2010 04:52 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2010 04:43 gillon wrote:I am Sturmlight.Yeast on battle.net. I am not a pro Starcraft player nor do I intend to be [I believe pro-play takes a certain fun away from the core experience]. However, I AM what I would call a Casual Hardcore Starcraft player who will use all the tools at his disposal to NATURALLY win WITHOUT rushing. A natural win to me includes the development of buildings, units, and additional bases necessary to out-resource my opponent (in the end game, past 30 minutes of play) and to use my position to destroy all their buildings. A rush to me is unnatural, and it disturbs my perception of Starcraft. ..natural win? No, thank you. Any win is a win, pure and simple. Assuming you're basing any changes you want to do on this core argument I wholeheartedly have to disagree with them. EDIT: People do realise he wants rushfree games right? You know, kind of like the guy you played in that placement match that called you a noob for doing anything aggressive to his base within the first 15 minutes? Any sort of changes that condones this attitude would purely hurt the game, in my honest opinion. I agree. He's done a clever job of hiding this anti-competitive mentality within paragraphs and paragraphs of stuff that everyone knows and will agree with.
Its a diatribe post plain and simple, at paragraph 15 is where it should have ended, his point had been made and was well and clear.
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Stopped reading here:
"My name is Sturmlight on Battle.net"
Seriously? That takes away any and all desire a person could have for reading this huge wall of text. Blizzard knows about the things the gaming community is crying about, and they sure as hell will not delay this multi million dollar project because of your uninformed opinions.
I think everyone is wasting their time sitting in their chair writing angry posts on the internet.
Blizzard doesnt care, why would they? Unless you get some kind of large following or have a good explanation for why it will hurt their main goal (maximum profit) better than "we the hardcore gamers dont like it!", all of your complaints will go unheard and unnoticed.
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If you are making an open letter then make it shorter.. Nobody is gonna waste an hour of their life reading your stuff..
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On June 13 2010 04:47 heyoka wrote:
I don't disagree with a lot of the ideas here, but I'm not sure you gave consideration to how busy every single person on anything SC2 related is right now.
My advice to you is to try to express your points in a way that won't take up an entire lunch hour to read.
I did my friend, believe me. But I am a busy professional myself and so, in order to make it shorter, I really would have had to spend a lot of time given my skill set as a writer. I know it isn't perfect for that crowd, but I tried my best, I swear. I simply do not have the time before they launch this game to wait any longer, not that I legitimately know that my thoughts will make a difference.
I just love games, Blizzard, and Starcraft that much that I felt urgency to post it here, the mecca of all internet places for Starcraft.
Also, I would like to make it abundantly clear: I am NOT anti-competitive. Everyone has a right to be as competitive as they wish, there are just a lot of things about non-competitive issues with the game that I feel deserve attention as well! Especially for those of us not in the Platinum or even Silver areas.
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Wow I hope this is a joke thread.
"Hell, it's about time." -_-;;
EDIT : I almost cried when I saw thread title, I thought for a second blizzard was going to delay SC2, SAD.
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