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Wow. You're dumb.
First of all - They would never delay it because a pseudo-intellectual nobody like yourself makes a post like this on teamliquid. So if you even had half of a brain you would know that a post like this is for nothing.
Second - Starcraft 2 will be complete for release. Hordes of people have already pre-ordered it. We've already been having a great time with the beta. The single player mode is complete.
The game is good enough to release. We all want it to be released, we all want to play it. None of us care that it doesn't meet your fantasies standards. They have been working on SC2 long enough. They have to release it. It's time to put it out there and start making money.
You wrote so much damn nonsense I can't even rebut half of it, it's just not worth my time.
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On June 13 2010 04:56 ChickenLips wrote: Stopped reading here:
"My name is Sturmlight on Battle.net"
Seriously? That takes away any and all desire a person could have for reading this huge wall of text. Blizzard knows about the things the gaming community is crying about, and they sure as hell will not delay this multi million dollar project because of your uninformed opinions.
I think everyone is wasting their time sitting in their chair writing angry posts on the internet.
Blizzard doesnt care, why would they? Unless you get some kind of large following or have a good explanation for why it will hurt their main goal (maximum profit) better than "we the hardcore gamers dont like it!", all of your complaints will go unheard and unnoticed.
Yes they do care.
I know they care. Believe me. I wouldn't have gotten one of the earliest beta keys available if they didn't care.
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HOLY SHIT
you put really so much effort to your thread. Iam gonna read this as soon as I find enough time!
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I can see this turning into a massive flame thread... a massive massive flame thread
In other news, I TOTALLY disagree with most everything except for the fact that the music needs to be better for non-terran races.
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On June 13 2010 04:59 chuninexam wrote: Wow. You're dumb.
First of all - They would never delay it because a pseudo-intellectual nobody like yourself makes a post like this on teamliquid. So if you even had half of a brain you would know that a post like this is for nothing.
Second - Starcraft 2 will be complete for release. Hordes of people have already pre-ordered it. We've already been having a great time with the beta. The single player mode is complete.
The game is good enough to release. We all want it to be released, we all want to play it. None of us care that it doesn't meet your fantasies standards. They have been working on SC2 long enough. They have to release it. It's time to put it out there and start making money.
You wrote so much damn nonsense I can't even rebut half of it, it's just not worth my time. Anyone who begins a post with "you're dumb" as a counter to an argument doesn't deserve my time either! If you can't deconstruct my argument and pose a better one, why even post?
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On June 13 2010 04:52 SichuanPanda wrote: Well I can't really say anything other than, you should have made your post 60% shorter and saved yourself a whole lot of time. Blizzard will be releasing the game on July 27th, 2010, regardless of what anyone says - this is because Blizzard NEVER has announced an actual release date in the past and then delayed the game. They have announced 'QX Year X' many times, and delayed, or even cancelled projects, but once Blizzard announces an exact date, that's it, the game is coming out then and nothing is going to change that. I can't say I disagree with your complaints about the game, but I'd much rather buy the game and wait for some patches to fix the issues (as I'm sure everyone else would) than force the game to be delayed even further than it already has been.
That's not true. It was announced that TBC was to be released in November but they pushed it back to January.
They don't have that luxury this time around though because delaying SC2 again would mean a potential loss of sales to Cataclysm.
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On June 13 2010 05:01 Sturmlight.Yeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2010 04:59 chuninexam wrote: Wow. You're dumb.
First of all - They would never delay it because a pseudo-intellectual nobody like yourself makes a post like this on teamliquid. So if you even had half of a brain you would know that a post like this is for nothing.
Second - Starcraft 2 will be complete for release. Hordes of people have already pre-ordered it. We've already been having a great time with the beta. The single player mode is complete.
The game is good enough to release. We all want it to be released, we all want to play it. None of us care that it doesn't meet your fantasies standards. They have been working on SC2 long enough. They have to release it. It's time to put it out there and start making money.
You wrote so much damn nonsense I can't even rebut half of it, it's just not worth my time. Anyone who begins a post with "you're dumb" as a counter to an argument doesn't deserve my time either! If you can't deconstruct my argument and pose a better one, why even post?
Buddy, do you know how to read?
Quote "You wrote so much damn nonsense I can't even rebut half of it, it's just not worth my time."
What part of that statment was hard for you to understand?
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On June 13 2010 05:01 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2010 04:52 SichuanPanda wrote: Well I can't really say anything other than, you should have made your post 60% shorter and saved yourself a whole lot of time. Blizzard will be releasing the game on July 27th, 2010, regardless of what anyone says - this is because Blizzard NEVER has announced an actual release date in the past and then delayed the game. They have announced 'QX Year X' many times, and delayed, or even cancelled projects, but once Blizzard announces an exact date, that's it, the game is coming out then and nothing is going to change that. I can't say I disagree with your complaints about the game, but I'd much rather buy the game and wait for some patches to fix the issues (as I'm sure everyone else would) than force the game to be delayed even further than it already has been. That's not true. It was announced that TBC was to be released in November but they pushed it back to January. They don't have that luxury this time around though because delaying SC2 again would mean a potential loss of sales to Cataclysm. I think this is a valid concern on Blizzard's part but the two audiences may be distinctly different from each other. It deserves further study and attention, and probably an examination of numbers that they have never made public.
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I wouldnt be opposed to it at this point, the game is in a serious need of major overhaul for bnet 2.0, and the balance could be much better too.. I doubt everything will be resolved in this small 2-3 week beta close..
but it wont happen, they've come too far now.
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I honestly would love to see this game delayed at this point, if it meant re-adding all the features of ye good 'ole b.net along with all the new improvements along with cross-server play. Hopefully Blizzard can convince their evil overlords that this is a good idea after showing them all of the community feedback, but I doubt it. Shareholders are probably too thick to realize the value of long-term customer relations in this business.
Even though no one boycotts SC2 specifically, it will definitely leave bitterness among the fanbase toward future Blizzard products. And yes, this is the case even if they add all of the features with the next expansion. Many people will probably have given up by that point and the damage will already have been done, to some extent. First impressions are not to be taken lightly in such a fast-paced industry.
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A good read. The gamer in me wants to respond in the same way as previous posters, that we have already waited for ever for this, don't delay it further. But to be frank, while SC2 might be the game we've been waiting for, BNet2.0 is not.
In any case, there is so much money on the line, that waiting for Activision Blizzard is no longer an option. Which is why the game went to beta with BNet2.0 in a horrible state, and why I think that the game will be delayed a couple of months max. I realize your point that waiting will bring up the stock in the long run, but I don't think that they have the resources to put into SC2 to wait out the down from delaying the game.
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rofl sturmlight "you got one of the first beta keys available" , yea im sure blizzard cares about you enough to delay sc2 LOL
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You know what the sad part is folks, most of these problems are not about the actual game but the online system.
It's a sad sad day when a video game is not bought due to its online system.
But blizzard did say that they were preparing a response to all of this.
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well. i cant believe i read all of that but, they would lose wayyyy more money if they released it a year from now... thats just common sense. they have a good hype train going now. why stop it? plus they can always fix stuff later and on top of this they still have a good month left to polish it.
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Amazing writeup. can't really say more, but this guy speaks the thruth
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On June 13 2010 04:59 chuninexam wrote: Wow. You're dumb.
First of all - They would never delay it because a pseudo-intellectual nobody like yourself makes a post like this on teamliquid. So if you even had half of a brain you would know that a post like this is for nothing.
Second - Starcraft 2 will be complete for release. Hordes of people have already pre-ordered it. We've already been having a great time with the beta. The single player mode is complete.
The game is good enough to release. We all want it to be released, we all want to play it. None of us care that it doesn't meet your fantasies standards. They have been working on SC2 long enough. They have to release it. It's time to put it out there and start making money.
You wrote so much damn nonsense I can't even rebut half of it, it's just not worth my time.
This is so unbelievably rude and I apologize for him good sir >.> Most people in the TL community are not like that.
If you actually took the time to read his post, he makes a lot of really good points. Truthfully, however, I do not see even the slightest possibility of Blizzard delaying the game. I for one will probably be spending the first month going through campaign mode in an as detailed manner as humanly possible, and from that respect I think SC2 is ready to be released.
That doesn't mean what you said doesn't hold any value. It's really just that 1) it's a bit too long and 2) you should really consider Blizzard's position right now. It's being pressured by both Activision and fans alike for release. Your ideas would be much better implemented in post release patches.
As a PS, loved the zerg music, and if you do the math, this guy's been gaming since he was five :O
...I was learning to ride a bicycle without training wheels when I was 5 =/
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On June 13 2010 05:05 TelecOm1 wrote: rofl sturmlight "you got one of the first beta keys available" , yea im sure blizzard cares about you enough to delay sc2 LOL I don't think they care about me, per se, just about their game and consumer reaction to it. That's all I'm saying my friend.
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I thought Blizzard has decided to do obvious thing,but nope,it's @Blizzard post not a post by Blizzard. Thanks for making a trap.
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This may be the first time in my life that I have not read the entire OP. I'm serious, it's that bad.
But from what I have read... why would you mention the incredible success of the Wii, and then tell them to delay the game because of its online multiplayer? One of the things hardcore gamers ragged on Nintendo the most was about friend codes, and we all know how much that mattered (I'm still playing Brawl).
Stick to making points about eSports. That's our niche. That's TeamLiquid. Don't pretend you know what makes a game sell; you don't know what makes a game sell. Frankly, if I was Mike Morhaime, I'd stop reading past the first few paragraphs.
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Release game first, and then chat rooms later. I'm already suffering from SC2 withdrawal.
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