EPT[NSFW?] Beautiful bull-fighting fail. - Page 11
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
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zurg
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On June 10 2010 02:57 IntoTheWow wrote: I'm glad this happened. ! true <3 animals this is no sport | ||
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neohero9
United States595 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:47 johnlee wrote: .... How distasteful. Just because the guy is indulging in an activity that you guys believe to be animal cruelty, you are laughing at his excruciatingly painful injury. You must feel so goddamn happy about this "justice" being passed down. Whether bull-fighting is unjust or not; whether the guy deserved it or not is of no matter. The fact that you'd laugh at a guy being speared through the chin is sickening. If a man with a baseball bat were chasing a child, and the child turned and stabbed the man, would you not feel that the man deserved it? That justice was brought onto the man? Besides the species, what is the difference? The matador and the man with the bat are both aggressors; the bull and the child are both innocent and acting out of defense (and some would argue defensive instinct). | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:47 johnlee wrote: .... How distasteful. Just because the guy is indulging in an activity that you guys believe to be animal cruelty, you are laughing at his excruciatingly painful injury. You must feel so goddamn happy about this "justice" being passed down. Whether bull-fighting is unjust or not; whether the guy deserved it or not is of no matter. The fact that you'd laugh at a guy being speared through the chin is sickening. This might mean anything at all if the man was forced into the ring at gun point. I'm sure he makes a comfy living doing this and enjoys it as such. | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
I've heared there are two types of corrida (bull fighting), one where matador kills the bull and one where he doesn't, but they wound bulls in both  People make animals suffer with all those circuses for our entertainment. Some of you heared that orca killed her trainer a couple month ago in aquarium. And I bet everyone said how happy this orca was about living in aquarium instead of ocean for all those years before that tragedy. Now that killer whale (orca) had killed THREE people and money-hungry owners were just selling it to different sea worlds instead of letting it free, knowing that it can kill again. | ||
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:52 neohero9 wrote: If a man with a baseball bat were chasing a child, and the child turned and stabbed the man, would you not feel that the man deserved it? That justice was brought onto the man? Besides the species, what is the difference? The matador and the man with the bat are both aggressors; the bull and the child are both innocent and acting out of defense (and some would argue defensive instinct). this is a HUGE fucking difference | ||
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
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chesshaha
United States1117 Posts
Will he ever bull fight again? | ||
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:59 chesshaha wrote: dang, hope that dude is alright. Will he ever bull fight again? A bull wounded by the banderillas used by matador Julio Aparicio, the bull, in his final moments of life, rebelled one last time leaving his mark. The audience gasped as the agonised animal almost took off the bullfighter´s head. Bleeding and stunned the matador fell wounded to the ground bleeding profusely, within moments medics were in the ring rushing him to the local hospital where his life was saved by Dr. Maximo Garcia Pedros after two operations. Two matadors finally put the animal out of his suffering before the crowd; the remainder of the entertainment of bull fights continued. Ye the dude was taken to the hospital and saved unlike that bull dude who died. | ||
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:59 chesshaha wrote: dang, hope that dude is alright. Will he ever bull fight again? he's expected to make a complete recovery | ||
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neohero9
United States595 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:57 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: this is a HUGE fucking difference Does it change the fact that the matador deserves the goring? He's inflicting pain upon a creature which can feel it, as is the man with the bat. The man with the bat is chasing a human child, that is wrong. Does that make it NOT WRONG to do the same thing to an animal? | ||
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The_Pacifist
United States540 Posts
It doesn't matter whether or not the guy was in the right or in the wrong. If a murderer got speared through the face as a punishment, whether he deserved it or not, I wouldn't be laughing or smiling if I saw it happen. Sure, if I were related to the person the murderer killed, I may feel satisfied that the murderer is getting his just desserts, but calling it "beautiful?" That's just sick. | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On June 10 2010 08:08 ghermination wrote: This bastard completely deserved that. Bullfighting is basically just torture for pleasure - there's absolutely no benefit to anyone by doing this, and the bulls are ALWAYS killed. If not by the bull fighter, then after the fight. This is blatantly false. If a bull is given an Indulto, or pardoned, by the audience, they are not killed. These bulls are used to sire lines of fighting bulls with the same characteristics | ||
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neohero9
United States595 Posts
On June 10 2010 08:10 [NyC]HoBbes wrote: This is blatantly false. If a bull is given an Indulto, or pardoned, by the audience, they are not killed. These bulls are used to sire lines of fighting bulls with the same characteristics "The bulls are used to sire more bulls which are used for fighting and then killed, or used to sire even MORE bulls which are then used for fighting and then killed, or... ad infinitum." Did I get that right? It's the ciiiircle of fiiiiight! | ||
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Bowdy
United States232 Posts
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mint_julep
United States254 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:26 neohero9 wrote: The reason the situation of cows on farms doesn't piss people off is because it's ignored, or written off as 'necessity', or accepted because 'animals are not people'. It's been clearly illustrated that the necessity doesn't actually exist in most cases. This leave ignorance and the 'animals are not people' argument. True, animals cannot reason at the level of humans; they do not communicate with the finesse and specificity of humans; nor do they murder or rape, which are again solely the realm of humanity. What, then, convinces those of us who decry the treatment of animals in the world that they deserve our moral consideration? I bring you Jeremy Bentham: Animals should not be afforded the right to vote as humans do, or to own property as humans do, because they lack the capacity to do these things. However, they do have the capacity to suffer, something all of us can relate to, and ought to consider. Yes, that's a moral ought. This significantly weakens the 'animals are not humans, and therefore do not deserve our moral consideration' argument. This leaves only ignorance, specifically voluntary ignorance. EDIT because my quote was incomplete. I doubt that day will ever come. Those in power don't generally up and afford rights to those who lack it. It is usually the result of struggle from the ones at the bottom. Bulls won't ever organize. Of course they should have the right to avoid this suffering though, so I hope I'm wrong. | ||
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Zexion
Sweden971 Posts
Now that is extremly cowardly! IMO, just forbid this ridiculous "sport" already. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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