EPTThe fact is, you have no idea the cultural significance of bullfighting in those countries. But yeah, continue judging from your armchair thrones.
[NSFW?] Beautiful bull-fighting fail. - Page 12
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
The fact is, you have no idea the cultural significance of bullfighting in those countries. But yeah, continue judging from your armchair thrones. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On June 10 2010 08:50 snotboogie wrote: I always wonder why people value animal lives over human lives. The fact is, you have no idea the cultural significance of bullfighting in those countries. But yeah, continue judging from your armchair thrones. Maybe it's YOU who have no idea. A spanish guy wrote earlier in this thread that this is a very debated issue and some areas has already banned it. | ||
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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neohero9
United States595 Posts
On June 10 2010 08:50 snotboogie wrote: I always wonder why people value animal lives over human lives. The fact is, you have no idea the cultural significance of bullfighting in those countries. But yeah, continue judging from your armchair thrones. Does any amount of cultural significance justify the taking of a life? Or are you arguing that "the culture supports it, we are not a part of that culture, so we cannot say whether or not it's just"? Cultural relativism is a really weak way to look at things. | ||
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WeSt
Portugal918 Posts
People have to realise sometimes costumes are more important. Do you guys think they don't eat the bull at the end? They do. Is it a cruel death? Yes, it is. People been doing this for centuries... and for centuries people fought to ban death penalty in some countries and still so many increase their executions. I think IT IS FUCKING BRUTAL to kill people. You guys care so much about an animal while people are being tortured, people getting killed because of their religion, sexual orientation, politics, etc. Seriously there are way more important things you should be focusing on. I know some people in my country who love bullfights and have had people in their family doing it for a long long time. Now some PETA hippies tell them it is not ok to do it. Srsl. I don't like bullfights and I never watched it, but if a lot of people like it, why not? They are eating the bull in the end anyways. Also I would like to point out almost every carnivorous predator in the wild life plays with it's food. | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
unless you are a vegetarian or insist on some kind of standard (like kosher or whatever) everytime you eat meat, you are not in position to criticize bullfighting | ||
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
On June 10 2010 03:08 Liquid`NonY wrote: Beef isn't needed to sustain human life. Humans eat it for pleasure. Eating beef is killing for pleasure, just the same. We do not prolong the killing process by sticking 40 swords into our cows before letting them bleed to death; we mallet them in the head and destroy their brains instantly. Grotesque sport. | ||
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neohero9
United States595 Posts
They are eating the bull in the end anyways. They are eating the cat in the end anyways. Let's torture it. They are eating the dog in the end anyways. Let's torture it. They are going to eat YOUR PET in the end anyways. Let's torture it. My point isn't that animals are more important than people. It's that both humans and animals have the ability to feel pain, and inflicting unnecessary and unjustifiable pain is bad. I don't like bullfights and I never watched it, but if a lot of people like it, why not? A lot of people like speeding on city streets. A lot of people like shooting guns wildly into the air. A lot of people like smashing car windows with baseball bats. A lot of people like sexual assault. Even if a majority of people liked these things, should they be permissible? | ||
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yubee
United States3826 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:47 johnlee wrote: totally agree. how at all is this beautiful.... How distasteful. Just because the guy is indulging in an activity that you guys believe to be animal cruelty, you are laughing at his excruciatingly painful injury. You must feel so goddamn happy about this "justice" being passed down. Whether bull-fighting is unjust or not; whether the guy deserved it or not is of no matter. The fact that you'd laugh at a guy being speared through the chin is sickening. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On June 10 2010 09:38 yubee wrote: totally agree. how at all is this beautiful Pretty much summarizes my stance on this. It wasn't funny, it was just wince-inducing. | ||
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mainerd
United States347 Posts
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Juxx
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
As a vegetarian: FUCK YEAH!! (notice the extra exclamation  ) | ||
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Dozle
Canada147 Posts
I would have been laughing, and I know I'm not the only one. | ||
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WeSt
Portugal918 Posts
On June 10 2010 09:34 neohero9 wrote: They are eating the cat in the end anyways. Let's torture it. They are eating the dog in the end anyways. Let's torture it. They are going to eat YOUR PET in the end anyways. Let's torture it. My point isn't that animals are more important than people. It's that both humans and animals have the ability to feel pain, and inflicting unnecessary and unjustifiable pain is bad. A lot of people like speeding on city streets. A lot of people like shooting guns wildly into the air. A lot of people like smashing car windows with baseball bats. A lot of people like sexual assault. Even if a majority of people liked these things, should they be permissible? They are not torturing the bulls because they are evil sons of bitches, maybe it's actually fun and thrilling to bullfight? Of course you will never understand (neither will I) because it hasn't been part of your life like it has for some people. The last part about people smashing car windows with baseball bats / shooting guns / etc is ridiculous. Seriously is that your best argument? Shooting guns wildly into the air hasn't been a cultural "sport" for CENTURIES. Nor smashing car windows with baseball bats. Or sexually assaulting people. Are you comparing bullfighters with this kind of people? Because if you are, you're not better than any PETA hippie scumbag. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On June 10 2010 09:34 neohero9 wrote: They are eating the cat in the end anyways. Let's torture it. They are eating the dog in the end anyways. Let's torture it. They are going to eat YOUR PET in the end anyways. Let's torture it. My point isn't that animals are more important than people. It's that both humans and animals have the ability to feel pain, and inflicting unnecessary and unjustifiable pain is bad. A lot of people like speeding on city streets. A lot of people like shooting guns wildly into the air. A lot of people like smashing car windows with baseball bats. A lot of people like sexual assault. Even if a majority of people liked these things, should they be permissible? hahaha comparing bullfighters to sexual offenders now, are we? bullfighting has never been part of my culture so i will never fully understand it, but it's a huge cultural and traditional sport for others. | ||
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On June 10 2010 07:47 johnlee wrote: .... How distasteful. Just because the guy is indulging in an activity that you guys believe to be animal cruelty, you are laughing at his excruciatingly painful injury. You must feel so goddamn happy about this "justice" being passed down. Whether bull-fighting is unjust or not; whether the guy deserved it or not is of no matter. The fact that you'd laugh at a guy being speared through the chin is sickening. Imho the reason why some are laughing at his misfortune is exactly the same reason why spectators revel in this sport | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
Edit: okay the guys above me thinks that some people are having a good time with the misfortune of this Matador but in reality, We just like making puns. Ooooooohhhhhhh.. Right through the kisser!! | ||
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