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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 18 2010 04:56 GMT
#681
Okay, so I tweaked a lot of my build now... Anyone with suggestions/comments?

$650 minus about $60 in rebates = Hopefully $590 if all the rebates come back =\

Going for bang-for-the-buck stuff still...

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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 04:58:43
July 18 2010 04:57 GMT
#682
Antec 900 is not a good case for the money. It has trouble with larger HSFs, and you would be better off investing in a better motherboard with an AM3 socket and DDR3 instead of getting that Antec 900.

Consider this case instead
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215
or this Antec 300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
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nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 05:01:15
July 18 2010 04:59 GMT
#683
The best single GPU is ATI, but the 5970 is a particularly difficult choice to justify.

Edit: I've heard that the cable management in the 300 is a bit difficult, so at the same price I think I'd pick the cm692.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 05:00:47
July 18 2010 05:00 GMT
#684
There are good cases for 30-50 dollars cheaper.

I would rather see that go into a after market heatsink/better mobo.

At your price range although a case is a good investment, it's not something that should be high on the list of things to prioritize. At the 1k+ i like to see people spend more on a case because likely they can afford one of great size and quality one they will use over and over.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 18 2010 05:09 GMT
#685
On July 18 2010 13:55 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 13:24 TanGeng wrote:
Any one have intel i7 build? (cpu + motherboard + memory)

I've looked at the recent ones and they are all AMD. Is there any reason for that?


I have an Intel i7 build. The recent ones are AMD because the budget is not high enough to allow for a good i7 build.

Do you have a link to one? I'll try to search back through the posts, but if you could point, that'd be faster for me.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 05:12:34
July 18 2010 05:12 GMT
#686
Oh, I mean my current computer is an Intel i7. I could make you an i7 build if given a budget, though I wouldn't recommend spending less than $1200 or so on an i7 build.
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 05:32:32
July 18 2010 05:13 GMT
#687
Great points on the case; it was definitely a bit overkill... Changed to the Cooler Master 534 and saved 30 bucks =)

One thing I don't understand... What is not so good about the Biostar A785G3? It seems to have most of the functions I needed (PCI-E, DDR1066 support for my RAM, AC3)...

Also, is DDR3 @1600 worth to get more than @1333 right now?
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 18 2010 05:14 GMT
#688
I'm looking at 1000-1500 for the box unless there is already an extreme amount of diminishing bang for the buck at that price.
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nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
July 18 2010 05:17 GMT
#689
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Should give you an idea of the price range, but like fragkrag said, you should only consider an i7 build if you have a generous budget.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 18 2010 05:23 GMT
#690
A fermi. Probably a top of the line Fermi as well. Hmmm.

So I should do an i7-bloomfield at that price range.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 18 2010 05:44 GMT
#691
Those combo savings are really nice. I wish I got onto one of those.
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nineninja9
Profile Joined March 2010
United States194 Posts
July 18 2010 06:06 GMT
#692
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How about this Gokey? By the way, the $30 in promo codes only last for another day. Also, you can fit in a 460 if you insist on AM2 to save money.


Tangeng, there are combo deals quite regularly, you should be able to find comparable ones no matter what. In addition, if you live close to a microcenter, pick up an i7-930 $200.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 18 2010 06:07 GMT
#693
I'm surprised that nobody mentioned how much ATI Linux driver support blows, or is that not as true anymore? I heard that since AMD acquired ATI, they started pushing towards better driver support (and of course driver development is a slow and difficult process), but Nvidia Linux drivers are probably still a lot better.

Also I think there's probably a lot of diminishing price/performance for CPU/GPU/etc. at the $1000-1500 range, especially considering how fast those parts get outdated. I think a decent SSD and slightly less top-of-the-line CPU/GPU/etc. would be the better value for day-to-day usage. Sure, current SSDs will become outdated too, but SSD random access times are already a couple orders of magnitude better than HDD random access. The difference between SSD and HDD will just go from huge to (slightly more) huge.

I think you want an SSD with TRIM btw, unless there's been some magic developments in SSD technology I don't know about. One caveat: TRIM was integrated in Linux kernel 2.6.33 (according to wiki), which some/many distros aren't up to yet.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 18 2010 06:18 GMT
#694
ATI linux drivers still blow. It's just not as bad.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 18 2010 06:24 GMT
#695
On July 18 2010 15:06 nineninja9 wrote:
Tangeng, there are combo deals quite regularly, you should be able to find comparable ones no matter what. In addition, if you live close to a microcenter, pick up an i7-930 $200.


This - how much longer does it last?
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
July 18 2010 06:27 GMT
#696
On July 18 2010 15:07 Myrmidon wrote:
Also I think there's probably a lot of diminishing price/performance for CPU/GPU/etc. at the $1000-1500 range, especially considering how fast those parts get outdated. I think a decent SSD and slightly less top-of-the-line CPU/GPU/etc. would be the better value for day-to-day usage. Sure, current SSDs will become outdated too, but SSD random access times are already a couple orders of magnitude better than HDD random access. The difference between SSD and HDD will just go from huge to (slightly more) huge.


I'm considering an SSD for my build.
I'm also considering a GTX 470. I'm just thinking that the fermi architecture might be something I want to play with.
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 06:28:44
July 18 2010 06:27 GMT
#697
On July 18 2010 15:06 nineninja9 wrote:
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How about this Gokey? By the way, the $30 in promo codes only last for another day. Also, you can fit in a 460 if you insist on AM2 to save money.


Tangeng, there are combo deals quite regularly, you should be able to find comparable ones no matter what. In addition, if you live close to a microcenter, pick up an i7-930 $200.


Thanks for the suggestions!

Questions:

1. Do you or anyone know whether the 32mb hard drive cache in the 1TB Samsung Spinpoint makes a huge difference over the 16mb hard drive cache in the 500GB Spinpoint?

2. Also, is DDR3 1600 much faster than DDR3 1333 in DDR3 right now?

3. Lastly, the 400W power supply doesn't seem to be enough?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 18 2010 06:31 GMT
#698
On July 18 2010 14:14 TanGeng wrote:
I'm looking at 1000-1500 for the box unless there is already an extreme amount of diminishing bang for the buck at that price.


If I were you I would throw 2 GTX 460 1GB in SLI with an i7 930. Best bang for the buck combo atm that fits in your budget.

Gokey: Cache tends to serve very little purpose other than sequential reads/writes. DDR3 1600 vs 1333 makes almost no difference.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 06:40:25
July 18 2010 06:39 GMT
#699
On July 18 2010 15:31 FragKrag wrote:
If I were you I would throw 2 GTX 460 1GB in SLI with an i7 930. Best bang for the buck combo atm that fits in your budget.


Nice suggestion. I was just thinking that the PCI-e was going to be a bottleneck. Having two of them would work nicely, but I've thought that SLI wasn't implemented optimally. Maybe it has improved.
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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 18 2010 06:46 GMT
#700
Thanks for help FragKrag and nineninja and semantics and everyone... I feel like I'm coming to deciding on the final build now...

1. I do like the BioStar mobo... It has all the basics I need (DDR3 1333, AM3, PCI-E 2.0...). Only thing it's missing is USB 3.0 and that it has only 2 memory slots...

2. The other thing I'm a little worried about is whether the processor (Athlon II 635) is lagging a bit and may be outdated too soon? (although this is a min-max budget build...)

3. Also, any tips on how to save on the Operating System? I think I can transfer an old Vista or XP operating system to this computer without spending $100 on Windows 7. I've done it a while ago, by calling Microsoft and saying I replaced a hard drive and needed to have the Windows unique key replaced... Although, if you guys think Windows 7 is worth the $100, maybe I'll buy it?...

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