open challenge to any of the top spanish players

On March 31 2004 18:58 sperix wrote:
you are jealous of sukers good looks

On March 31 2004 22:08 GoDHovZ wrote:
probe u are a sucky hacker, who do u think you are?

On March 31 2004 22:43 Neminski wrote:
If this happens Hovz will get humiliated. Just like all the Americans supporting him.

On March 31 2004 22:45 Dang-it wrote:


hahahahahah......i dont think you should start saying bm stuff probe its not worth it

On March 31 2004 22:48 Neminski wrote:
Oh ya "OMG THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING"

are you fucking stupid? has it ever come up in your puny minds that Spanish players were sleeping while HovZ made this topic?

On March 31 2004 23:02 GoDHovZ wrote:
twisted the only thing humiliating here is your extreme losing record v madcow

On April 01 2004 02:18 Neminski wrote:


I think I played madcow 2 times like 2 years ago, both of which I won. Apart from that I don't know where you're getting this from. I don't have a massive losing record with anyone apart from nazgul. In fact, I don't have a losing record with any American I think.

I only know that I humiliated you hardcore by posting this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=5489

Please, stop trying. Your verbal skill correlates with your bw skill (non-existant)

On March 31 2004 18:03 GoDHovZ wrote:
even in my out of practice state i will take the rape to any spanish new i mean player.

reply here if anyone is up to it

On April 01 2004 02:52 Liquid`Drone wrote:
well zelotito and suker would both win easily.

alfa and manza too most likely. would be cool if someone accepted!

On April 01 2004 06:06 distant_voice wrote:
forgive me my ignorance, but what's Upham's aka?

On April 01 2004 06:18 Veg wrote:
To quote someone funnier than me:

"Hovz: "I am the best player in the channel." He was the only one in the channel, and he was still wrong."


hovz you just suck you wouldnt have the GUTS to post a LIVE RWA of you getting owned by suker, cause we all know thats what the outcome would look like

"shit my mic broke half way through the game... whatever suker got lucky position hes just another spanish newbie"

On April 01 2004 06:50 GroT wrote:
haha upham posts : 1.. fake?

On April 01 2004 06:49 Fk.FragiLe wrote:
actually, ToT)Upham( wasnt Fk for his skills at bw. so dont count that aka, thx

On April 01 2004 07:27 HacHaZo wrote:
but can ownz the chobo hovz

On April 01 2004 02:18 Neminski wrote:


I think I played madcow 2 times like 2 years ago, both of which I won. Apart from that I don't know where you're getting this from. I don't have a massive losing record with anyone apart from nazgul. In fact, I don't have a losing record with any American I think.

I only know that I humiliated you hardcore by posting this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=5489

Please, stop trying. Your verbal skill correlates with your bw skill (non-existant)

On April 01 2004 02:18 Neminski wrote:

In fact, I don't have a losing record with any American I think.

On April 01 2004 08:40 DevAzTaYtA wrote:
hovz MIGHT manage a win or two vs manza, but would get smacked 5-0 if he played suker, zelotito or alfa.

On April 01 2004 09:28 GoDHovZ wrote:
umm manza, do you have some mental issues? or do you always come on the forums and make shit up. i said you suck and u were a waste of time. i never asked you for a regame.

On April 01 2004 10:13 GoDHovZ wrote:
iloveoo the fact you think thats a godo rep discoutns your opinion. its a good rep if you want to show an exampel of shitty ass play, complete lack of macro or any intelligible play by both sides

On April 01 2004 10:11 iloveoo wrote:
that was a good rep , thanks for sharing

PS: Grot u make 0 sense
it's not like any of the spanish players talked trash about hovz and now they are afraid to play him : it's more like they don't care what an american newbie who has done good in 1 tourney thinks of them .
if i constantly annoyed you by saying how much you suck (when in fact im 10x worse than you) , do you think you'd really have an obligation or something to play me? of course no
they 'duck and cover' ..... lol , way to miss the point

On April 01 2004 10:19 Liquid`Drone wrote:
honestly, I don't believe you, because you have absolutely no credibility whatsoever and zelotito is widely recognized as one of the most mannered good players outside korea, which he is. I remember you once said that newbies liked me because I'm one of the only good players who is actually manner around them. well zelotito is far more well mannered than I am. and just as good.. I mean hell I think I'm something like 2-7 vs zelotito. going by my individual stats against him and other players, he's far better than both nazgul and rekrul. in fact he's probably the protoss player outside korea with the best record against me. which doesn't show that zelotito is the best toss outside korea, but it does show that individual stats mean jack shit.

I can believe that suker had some badmanner tendencies like a year ago, but he's quite good manner as well.

On April 01 2004 10:37 Manza wrote:


Im agree with u. ZelotITO and me are good friends, in internet and real life, i used to visit him and he is a fantastic player, as u said it is really hard to have positive stats vs him because he is really regular, HovZ obviusly is a good player but has awesome games and awful games, similar than me. So I doubt he could win a simple game vs ZelotITO. It is nice to read ur post because u show that u are good manner and write with the brain and dont say nosenses.

On April 01 2004 10:35 BigBalls wrote:
whoa, 10 pages already.

id like to see hovz v suker, zelot, alfa, manza or puton. are those the top 5 spanish players?

On April 01 2004 11:22 StuFFofLegenDS wrote:
Badass thread.

I think some people are taking the whole thing too seriously though...I mean, Hovz clearly enjoys talking shit and getting a rise out of people. Not that I'm complaining, great entertainment value!

On April 01 2004 10:19 Liquid`Drone wrote:
honestly, I don't believe you, because you have absolutely no credibility whatsoever and zelotito is widely recognized as one of the most mannered good players outside korea, which he is. I remember you once said that newbies liked me because I'm one of the only good players who is actually manner around them. well zelotito is far more well mannered than I am. and just as good.. I mean hell I think I'm something like 2-7 vs zelotito. going by my individual stats against him and other players, he's far better than both nazgul and rekrul. in fact he's probably the protoss player outside korea with the best record against me. which doesn't show that zelotito is the best toss outside korea, but it does show that individual stats mean jack shit.

I can believe that suker had some badmanner tendencies like a year ago, but he's quite good manner as well.

On April 01 2004 11:26 karate wrote:
yea it's great entertainment, and it's all because of Hovz.

On April 01 2004 10:19 Liquid`Drone wrote:
honestly, I don't believe you, because you have absolutely no credibility whatsoever and zelotito is widely recognized as one of the most mannered good players outside korea, which he is. I remember you once said that newbies liked me because I'm one of the only good players who is actually manner around them. well zelotito is far more well mannered than I am. and just as good.. I mean hell I think I'm something like 2-7 vs zelotito. going by my individual stats against him and other players, he's far better than both nazgul and rekrul. in fact he's probably the protoss player outside korea with the best record against me. which doesn't show that zelotito is the best toss outside korea, but it does show that individual stats mean jack shit.

I can believe that suker had some badmanner tendencies like a year ago, but he's quite good manner as well.

On April 01 2004 12:18 Slaughter)BiO wrote:


Zel is really better then Naz and Rek? Hmm I never really knew he was that good. :o

On April 01 2004 12:21 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:



No wonder you didn't, you can't even read correctly

On April 01 2004 10:44 IntoTheClan wrote:


did they say hovz sucks ? No they didnt Hovz said it.
Did all the nations say american suck ? No Hovz said they are top3.
And they challanged several nations and what happened ? They lost most of the wars. -> Excuses, no good gamers in the team. Bad day ect...
-> so they still say they are top3 nations, and all the other people think why the fuck do they think such a stupid nonsense ?

You are on the same level as all the spanish idiots who scream and shout if anybody says something bad about suker or zealO.

On April 01 2004 13:53 mmm.beer wrote:
too bad maps can't have 100 observers.

On March 31 2004 20:07 mAKiTO wrote:
i dont think suker or zealotito even care about what hovz says or thinks, and they are the only ones who can at least be a opponent to him so wtf

On April 01 2004 12:32 Ace wrote:
regardless of the outcome i think its about time someone got some balls and made an actual challenge. Very rare to hear of 2+ good gamers arguing and then playing it out.

On April 01 2004 14:06 SickofLife wrote:
Man, this thread owns, hardcore. I really want to see HovZ play these people, win or lose, they'd probably be some decent games. Also, like Drone says, you have to give him props for at least backing his shit up, even if he loses, he's still willing to try.

EDIT: Slightly off topic, but why is it most "foreign" Terran players suck at TvZ?

On April 01 2004 09:37 Countdown wrote:


not 5-0. HovZ could take Alfa, btw. imo

On April 01 2004 10:11 iloveoo wrote:
that was a good rep , thanks for sharing

PS: Grot u make 0 sense
it's not like any of the spanish players talked trash about hovz and now they are afraid to play him : it's more like they don't care what an american newbie who has done good in 1 tourney thinks of them .
if i constantly annoyed you by saying how much you suck (when in fact im 10x worse than you) , do you think you'd really have an obligation or something to play me? of course no
they 'duck and cover' ..... lol , way to miss the point

On April 01 2004 13:54 ToT)Upham( wrote:
ok hovz,tell me here when u want to play,im waiting for you here.


PD:Actually im top 5 spanish player -0-

On March 31 2004 22:33 Pacifist wrote:
"yeah i think my push will hold for now... OH FUCK CARRIERS!"

On April 01 2004 14:24 StoneR wrote:


have you ever seen alfa play? did you saw him beat zelotito for a spot in korea this last summer?

On April 01 2004 09:49 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Its bad enough that X17 still exists on east, does it really have to come to TL.net too?

Talk less, play more. A braggart only makes himself out to be an ass and sets himself up for humiliation. =/

On April 01 2004 10:40 GoDHovZ wrote:
better get your ben-gay rdy upham cuz im gonna get in that ass

On April 01 2004 10:30 Dick wrote:
HovZ - as I said before, I want you to kick some spanish players !!!! no matter who they are !!! USA > Spain !!! in bw and in soccer too !!

so is there gonna be a matchup ???

On April 01 2004 15:47 RuGbUg wrote:
i've just seen more xD in the last 5 minutes than i have in my entire life

On April 01 2004 16:19 PeruHOpe wrote:
LOL im pretty sure that i will rape if u want Btw this is my account
http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=84823 u know me im Darki

On April 01 2004 16:30 StoneR wrote:
channel op tot)upham(

only 3 or 4 at the most will obs so.. t.t

On April 01 2004 16:51 STIMEY d okgm fish wrote:
i remember therre was a temple version where if people lift off early enough and move etc. they become obs and their buildings/scvs are removed. i think every ob version of temple should have triggers to allow this .