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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
December 04 2008 12:23 GMT
#401
2 zergs down.............
I hate this trend.............
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
December 04 2008 12:32 GMT
#402
On December 04 2008 20:24 Xstatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2008 20:21 simcar wrote:
Guys ,why are wondering July lost ?
Even his OSL was ZvP only. He is not in a slump. His zvp is godly.But his zvz and zvp is in iccup A- level


July lost to Bul_T or whoever he is. That just shows how out of touch his ZvP is. He's supposed to be untouchable there, but got GG'd pretty hard with poor micro and bad unit decisions. Back in the day even Bisu and the best tosses feared him ... he showed good micro and smart game sense, but today he's really out of it.


Pick a map from PL where July won't steamroll this newb and i will bealive that his " ZvP is out ot touch " ...
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10921 Posts
December 04 2008 12:35 GMT
#403
shitty day.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
December 04 2008 12:36 GMT
#404
This sucks donkeyballs. Frigging Bul_T ...
觀過斯知仁矣.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 12:49:41
December 04 2008 12:49 GMT
#405
bul_______________________________T
n_n
Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 13:00:27
December 04 2008 12:58 GMT
#406
It's the age of the protoss and downfall of the zerg while terran is still meh

edit: it's funny when it's the age of the terran, zerg is still on downfall while protoss is meh. But then when it's zerg time to shine, both terran and protoss goes down. So I guess zerg is either lose lose or pure win
Beyond the Game
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 04 2008 13:06 GMT
#407
LOL.

Byzantium 2 > July ^^
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
December 04 2008 13:22 GMT
#408
this sucks
fuck byzantium
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
simcar
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)118 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 13:24:57
December 04 2008 13:24 GMT
#409
Destination> ForGG mb ?
Savior will destroy everybody!!!
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
December 04 2008 13:31 GMT
#410
Destination is really hard TvP, no question.

Byzantium certainly has *some* ZvP imbalance, but the question is how much?

Honestly these games of Jaedong Yarnc July going 2 hatch muta allins and getting rolled cause it's obvious don't show much at all about the map. I mean, yeah you can argue that these zergs don't feel comfortable doing anything besides an all in, but 2 hatch muta just doesn't work. Are there any vods within the past year of it working? All I can remember is failure after failure. And especially if you let them scout it. Any map that lets 2 hatch muta win after FE P sees it coming must be 50-0 ZvP.

But I suppose people would rather ignore the game scenarios and just blindly blame the map.
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
December 04 2008 14:55 GMT
#411
On December 04 2008 22:24 simcar wrote:
Destination> ForGG mb ?


No forgg just cant micro, he had so much shit he could have easily pushed in before that shuttle got there but he wanted to play it safe and got rolled for it
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 15:24:55
December 04 2008 15:23 GMT
#412
On December 04 2008 22:31 Ver wrote:
Destination is really hard TvP, no question.

Byzantium certainly has *some* ZvP imbalance, but the question is how much?

Honestly these games of Jaedong Yarnc July going 2 hatch muta allins and getting rolled cause it's obvious don't show much at all about the map. I mean, yeah you can argue that these zergs don't feel comfortable doing anything besides an all in, but 2 hatch muta just doesn't work. Are there any vods within the past year of it working? All I can remember is failure after failure. And especially if you let them scout it. Any map that lets 2 hatch muta win after FE P sees it coming must be 50-0 ZvP.

But I suppose people would rather ignore the game scenarios and just blindly blame the map.


You just don't get it . They practise 15 hours a day and they all do 2 hatch mutas , because maybe thats the best all in opening for the map and the map sucks for a macro game . Obviously two hatch mutas is super risky all toss has to do is whore cannons , or get archons or just save and mass up corsairs and the zergs are pretty much fucked because of their poor economy ...
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
December 04 2008 15:32 GMT
#413
It actually isn't that surprising that Bul_T advanced 2-0. He had the map advantage against July SKT1 has really, really good PvT players that could counter ForGG's macro style.

But still, it is.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
December 04 2008 16:13 GMT
#414
wowowow july
savior did nothing wrong
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
December 04 2008 16:38 GMT
#415
Oh c'mon ForGG, pick up your TvP! Especially in these dark times, on these shitty maps, we need everyone who can XvP at highest level.

Anyway, good job going through .
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-04 18:29:08
December 04 2008 18:11 GMT
#416
people look at forgg's tvz stats holy shit

screams oov now 21-9
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
December 04 2008 18:23 GMT
#417
ugh july.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 04 2008 18:45 GMT
#418
Yes ForGG Fighting!!! my Fantasy MSL is off to a good start.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 04 2008 18:50 GMT
#419
On December 05 2008 01:38 adelarge wrote:
Oh c'mon ForGG, pick up your TvP! Especially in these dark times, on these shitty maps, we need everyone who can XvP at highest level.

Anyway, good job going through .

A lot of P's have very good PvP at least. :3
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
December 04 2008 20:14 GMT
#420
Wtf July.... wtf.
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
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