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Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
October 19 2008 07:04 GMT
#241
I see a ling-proof wall-in going up. I think Canata might be going for Fantasy's build. Chances are they practiced it together.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
October 19 2008 07:04 GMT
#242
july at 11

canata at 5

mech vs 12 hatch gas before pool

mech vs 2 hatch mutas...
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 19 2008 07:04 GMT
#243
Hey look at that double screen:

Godly APM vs ungodly APM...
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 19 2008 07:05 GMT
#244
On October 19 2008 15:56 Aux1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 15:55 .risingdragoon wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:45 Vivi57 wrote:
It wasn't even a timing attack

He'd lost so many probes, he was forced to allin and got lucky.


Yea well, even allin has good timing and bad timing.

Attacking someone when he's not in formation is hella good timing.


lol? how is happening to run into kal in the middle of the map exceptionally good timing


Listen well: In PvP good formation can save you units in a head on fight.

Reavers 2-shot dragoons, but if they can be made to fire just once fewer, that makes the world of difference in a PvP. That's what Best's timing did to Kal's reaver heavy army. He took out his knockout punch.

I'm not even a fan of skt, but I've seen this kind of timing from best once too many already. Give the guy his due mofo.
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Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
October 19 2008 07:05 GMT
#245
On October 19 2008 16:03 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 15:59 Aux1 wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:58 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Kal's choice to move out isn't really a bad one from that situation, but he had poor positioning and underestimated BeSt's army, so he got rolled. Now all of you stop ruining my hype for ace match!

how is it not a bad decision? if he stays on the cliff and wins that one attack he wins the game with ease

Didn't Kal move out before he saw BeSt attacking? It's easy to talk from a spectator perspective with hindsight bias helping you. Maybe Kal was worried that BeSt could even up the game with a good HT drop, and wanted to attack him while he was dealing with the DT. It would lower his chances of him noticing the DT, and if he did, he wouldn't be able to micro his army very well. Even if the fight broke even, Kal would storm way ahead and just end it.

Or just wait, whatever.

at that point in the game best's only option after losing all of those probes is to attack and go all in, i would have expected kal to realize this and play safe in order to ensure a victory
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 07:06:18
October 19 2008 07:05 GMT
#246
Incoming metal ~~NINJA EDIT
Minimal effort.
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
October 19 2008 07:06 GMT
#247
On October 19 2008 16:05 .risingdragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 15:56 Aux1 wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:55 .risingdragoon wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:45 Vivi57 wrote:
It wasn't even a timing attack

He'd lost so many probes, he was forced to allin and got lucky.


Yea well, even allin has good timing and bad timing.

Attacking someone when he's not in formation is hella good timing.


lol? how is happening to run into kal in the middle of the map exceptionally good timing


Listen well: In PvP good formation can save you units in a head on fight.

Reavers 2-shot dragoons, but if they can be made to fire just once fewer, that makes the world of difference in a PvP. That's what Best's timing did to Kal's reaver heavy army. He took out his knockout punch.

I'm not even a fan of skt, but I've seen this kind of timing from best once too many already. Give the guy his due mofo.

kal's reavers didnt fire because of his horrible positioning. what the fuck dont you get?
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
October 19 2008 07:06 GMT
#248
What is u[ with the double factories...
nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
October 19 2008 07:06 GMT
#249
I sense SKT Metal o.o
Lulz is a corrupted version of LOL
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
October 19 2008 07:06 GMT
#250
I can`t watch the game , so any LRs would be GREATLY appreciated
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
October 19 2008 07:07 GMT
#251
On October 19 2008 16:05 Aux1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 16:03 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:59 Aux1 wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:58 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Kal's choice to move out isn't really a bad one from that situation, but he had poor positioning and underestimated BeSt's army, so he got rolled. Now all of you stop ruining my hype for ace match!

how is it not a bad decision? if he stays on the cliff and wins that one attack he wins the game with ease

Didn't Kal move out before he saw BeSt attacking? It's easy to talk from a spectator perspective with hindsight bias helping you. Maybe Kal was worried that BeSt could even up the game with a good HT drop, and wanted to attack him while he was dealing with the DT. It would lower his chances of him noticing the DT, and if he did, he wouldn't be able to micro his army very well. Even if the fight broke even, Kal would storm way ahead and just end it.

Or just wait, whatever.

at that point in the game best's only option after losing all of those probes is to attack and go all in, i would have expected kal to realize this and play safe in order to ensure a victory

BeSt had more options.
~o~ I have returned
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
October 19 2008 07:07 GMT
#252
2 hatch lurks, not mutas
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
October 19 2008 07:07 GMT
#253
On October 19 2008 16:07 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 16:05 Aux1 wrote:
On October 19 2008 16:03 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:59 Aux1 wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:58 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Kal's choice to move out isn't really a bad one from that situation, but he had poor positioning and underestimated BeSt's army, so he got rolled. Now all of you stop ruining my hype for ace match!

how is it not a bad decision? if he stays on the cliff and wins that one attack he wins the game with ease

Didn't Kal move out before he saw BeSt attacking? It's easy to talk from a spectator perspective with hindsight bias helping you. Maybe Kal was worried that BeSt could even up the game with a good HT drop, and wanted to attack him while he was dealing with the DT. It would lower his chances of him noticing the DT, and if he did, he wouldn't be able to micro his army very well. Even if the fight broke even, Kal would storm way ahead and just end it.

Or just wait, whatever.

at that point in the game best's only option after losing all of those probes is to attack and go all in, i would have expected kal to realize this and play safe in order to ensure a victory

BeSt had more options.

you're right, his other option was to lose
raiame
Profile Joined December 2007
United States421 Posts
October 19 2008 07:07 GMT
#254
I see a den lurking.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
October 19 2008 07:07 GMT
#255
On October 19 2008 16:07 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2008 16:05 Aux1 wrote:
On October 19 2008 16:03 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:59 Aux1 wrote:
On October 19 2008 15:58 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Kal's choice to move out isn't really a bad one from that situation, but he had poor positioning and underestimated BeSt's army, so he got rolled. Now all of you stop ruining my hype for ace match!

how is it not a bad decision? if he stays on the cliff and wins that one attack he wins the game with ease

Didn't Kal move out before he saw BeSt attacking? It's easy to talk from a spectator perspective with hindsight bias helping you. Maybe Kal was worried that BeSt could even up the game with a good HT drop, and wanted to attack him while he was dealing with the DT. It would lower his chances of him noticing the DT, and if he did, he wouldn't be able to micro his army very well. Even if the fight broke even, Kal would storm way ahead and just end it.

Or just wait, whatever.

at that point in the game best's only option after losing all of those probes is to attack and go all in, i would have expected kal to realize this and play safe in order to ensure a victory

BeSt had more options.


More options with 1 base of probes vs 2.5 bases of probes?
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-19 07:09:36
October 19 2008 07:08 GMT
#256
shiiit, he's doing OOV's new build

EDIT: nvm no starport, just goli
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 19 2008 07:08 GMT
#257
Looks like Canata has been studying fantasy's games

I don't think July is prepared for this MU at all.
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foodontable
Profile Joined June 2006
China341 Posts
October 19 2008 07:08 GMT
#258
Canata with 6 vults or so roaming the map while July gets 2 hatch hydra. Vults take out a lot of drones and sneak into July's main. Destroying even more drones.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 19 2008 07:08 GMT
#259
Lurks look like the better option, just because you need hydra//scourge to fend off the valks anyway, and muta get eaten by the valks
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
October 19 2008 07:08 GMT
#260
VULTURES RUN BY AND KILL HALF OF JULY'S DRONES
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
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