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TMNT
3265 Posts
On May 27 2025 19:37 sas.Sziky wrote: this TMNT guy seems smart, I think we should take it seriously. It would be a big disappointment if it turns out that he doesn't even reach that B rank. And why should we take you seriously instead? | ||
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sas.Sziky
Hungary337 Posts
I'm praising you now, what's the problem? i just hoping you are have some experince,skill. i just dont know basically who is u and little bit will be suprising for me if u are not around the pro level. But i suppose its will be secret still. | ||
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TMNT
3265 Posts
On May 27 2025 20:24 sas.Sziky wrote: I'm praising you now, what's the problem? i just hoping you are have some experince,skill. i just dont know basically who is u and little bit will be suprising for me if u are not around the pro level. But i suppose its will be secret still. I don't have to be pro or S rank to offer my opinions of the game, as far as they are well articulated and subjective. In every sport or esport, people just do that. That's why I feel sorry for you because you seem to be not educated enough to understand such simple concept, thus all you can do is make snide remarks on a personal level. So either make some comments about the game, or stop acting like a dick. I will not respond to you anymore because you an your posts are so worthless on this board. | ||
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sas.Sziky
Hungary337 Posts
On May 27 2025 20:47 TMNT wrote: I don't have to be pro or S rank to offer my opinions of the game, as far as they are well articulated and subjective. In every sport or esport, people just do that. That's why I feel sorry for you because you seem to be not educated enough to understand such simple concept, thus all you can do is make snide remarks on a personal level. So either make some comments about the game, or stop acting like a dick. I will not respond to you anymore because you an your posts are so worthless on this board. You need calm down. all okay you are right ggs. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1273 Posts
On May 27 2025 20:47 TMNT wrote: I don't have to be pro or S rank to offer my opinions of the game, as far as they are well articulated and subjective. In every sport or esport, people just do that. That's why I feel sorry for you because you seem to be not educated enough to understand such simple concept, thus all you can do is make snide remarks on a personal level. So either make some comments about the game, or stop acting like a dick. I will not respond to you anymore because you an your posts are so worthless on this board. sziky is an elitist yet demands koreans and chinese cant compete with foreign events and tournaments because its unfair. | ||
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sas.Sziky
Hungary337 Posts
On May 27 2025 21:10 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: sziky is an elitist yet demands koreans and chinese cant compete with foreign events and tournaments because its unfair. Because of many things, and i am not an elitist and i am not demands anything. | ||
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TornadoSteve
1119 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19379 Posts
Games related, the game that bothers me the most is the first one without corsairs. It felt like Best really didn’t plan for dealing with mutas. Maybe it was nerves. It definitely shows that opening without a stargate is just to difficult to do. | ||
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Soft_General_5023
140 Posts
or just better maps will do to satisfy stork's whiners army? | ||
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Ideas
United States8174 Posts
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iopq
United States1148 Posts
On May 27 2025 23:51 BisuDagger wrote: Games related, the game that bothers me the most is the first one without corsairs. It felt like Best really didn’t plan for dealing with mutas. Maybe it was nerves. It definitely shows that opening without a stargate is just to difficult to do. He went sairless in one of the games he won, it's just a matter of having enough defense | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
I don't know what the answer is to better HT control outside of putting them in their own group, but it seems clear that the player who solves it probably wins a championship shortly thereafter. Watching them glide in because they were box-selected with attacking units is one of the more cringe things in the game. (edit: i should add that the semi-recent sc2 solution of giving templar a dumb attack is really terrible and also ugly. the players have to come up with something.) Soulkey seems very killable. Suprised he won. Still, one of the better seasons in recent memory and a great final. Even the 2-gate on Death Valley delivered, despite its short running time. Bye-bye, see you all next season. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27265 Posts
On May 28 2025 00:23 Soft_General_5023 wrote: so does the brood war needs balance change in favor of protoss? or just better maps will do to satisfy stork's whiners army? Stork’s? From my noob perspective I think there’s simultaneously an issue and I have zero idea how you would fix it. Is this hydra bust one that’s intended to kill me, or is it a pressure/contain with macro behind it? Are they banking for a Muta switch? It’s difficult to scout the deviations, not impossible by any means. So you gotta go on instinct sometimes, and if you guess right you might be a good spot, or if you don’t the inverse. But Zerg need those options and if you take them off the table and railroad them into fewer paths, I’d imagine you’d see Protoss players absolutely optimising and abusing predictability. It’s not like ZvZ where hypothetically if you wanted to shake that matchup up, you could just buff spores to do bonus to biological units. It directly targets the specific unit in question, and has no impact in any other matchups. SC2 already did this, different game sure but a similar rationale. I think it’s just one of those things that yeah, it’s not ideal, but it’s difficult to see a fix that doesn’t potentially gigantically destabilise the game overall. As it is, it feels Toss has to flip the coin on gut reads, or gambits annd have it come up the right side more often than not in a series, but if they do they can be in a winnable spot. Mini did win an ASL, but it felt that most of his mind games and gambles, and some were big gambles, paid off. Snow and Best played some more middle of the road, but solid StarCraft and it didn’t come off for them this time. Not ideal as I say, but a Toss enjoyer myself that’s still preferable to changes that might swing the matchup too much towards Toss, or have knock-on impacts on PvT or ZvT | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On May 25 2025 14:49 polgas wrote: Game 1: https://imgur.com/a/rYpqaiA Man, that was funny, lol!  | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On May 25 2025 15:24 NovaTheFeared wrote: Soulkey just comes out with great builds on the weird map both this and the 5 pool vs Snow were genius. This was actually a very zerg favoured map. It was almost an auto win condition for zerg. | ||
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Kraekkling
734 Posts
why does noone talk about the fact that Best basically doesnt gateway first??? almost every zerg will agree that forge-first or nexus-first builds are much easier to play against compared to gateway first. didn't Mini show us that P can win games with 1 gateway in the first 3-4 minutes? or get really ahead at least? even vs the very best Z pros? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27265 Posts
On May 28 2025 02:45 Kraekkling wrote: btw, 9gate->expansion is imo the biggest development in PvZ in the last 10 years, maybe even since modern PvZ was invented by Bisu why does noone talk about the fact that Best basically doesnt gateway first??? almost every zerg will agree that forge-first or nexus-first builds are much easier to play against compared to gateway first. didn't Mini show us that P can win games with 1 gateway in the first 3-4 minutes? or get really ahead at least? even vs the very best Z pros? It’s been a while, if we’re talking his ASL winning season wasn’t Mini basically rotating between things like Nexus first into gateway and cyber before forge and cutting every possible corner into doing more safe stuff other maps? It wasn’t that Mini optimised some ‘Mini build’ that was super potent and solid, he was gambling a lot and won those gambles. Maybe that’s what you need to do to win one of these things against a high class Zerg, and it’s been shown to be possible. Is it reliable or reasonable as an expectation is another question. | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden558 Posts
On May 27 2025 23:51 BisuDagger wrote: Everyone please chill or we will moderate the thread harder. And let’s not throw out match fixing allegations. Games related, the game that bothers me the most is the first one without corsairs. It felt like Best really didn’t plan for dealing with mutas. Maybe it was nerves. It definitely shows that opening without a stargate is just to difficult to do. Did you stop watching after the first game?... Whats up with all the stupid posts in this thread, lol. Games related, EPIC! | ||
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Kraekkling
734 Posts
On May 28 2025 02:57 WombaT wrote: It’s been a while, if we’re talking his ASL winning season wasn’t Mini basically rotating between things like Nexus first into gateway and cyber before forge and cutting every possible corner into doing more safe stuff other maps? It wasn’t that Mini optimised some ‘Mini build’ that was super potent and solid, he was gambling a lot and won those gambles. Maybe that’s what you need to do to win one of these things against a high class Zerg, and it’s been shown to be possible. Is it reliable or reasonable as an expectation is another question. I'm just saying that's it's a really strong opening, maybe even the best one. It has to be part of a programers repertoire. btw I'm not talking about some specific season in regards to Mini, he just seems the best at that style of early play | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey729 Posts
On May 25 2025 19:18 TMNT wrote: Yeah, no I mean textbook in general PvZ. That game Soulkey got slightly ahead with the opening and spawn location, then he kept getting ahead by being greedy bit by bit, here and there, while Best kept playing a middle of the road, safety first build, that got him nowhere: - Soulkey got to drone up, got Lair, Den and 5 Hatches without any zealot moving out on the map - He also got away with a Spire at 9th minute, because P saw the Lair, built 3 Sairs, then realized Z got Hydras already, and stopped building Sairs. So 3 useless Sairs for P. - He forced Best into 6 or 7 cannons thanks to the trick above, but never attacked them. That's 1000 minerals down the drain that never got any value back before P typed gg. If Best had committed to the push you said, he would have lost all the zealots anyway. It was too late at that point to even up the game just by brute force for P. Against that type of build from Z, P need some blind counter. A Sair mass Speedlot+1 push much earlier for example, but I have no doubt Soulkey could have adapted his build accordingly to not lose, and then take the game to late where he's favored again. It is interesting how we say the same thing on different occasions. | ||
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