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DONT BREAK MY HEART FOR A 4th TIME ![]() NO "SHINE" CUZ ITS YOUR TIME TO SHINE <3 I'm a bisu fanboy fite mi >_< | ||
YASHSHAKAR
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I am making a prediction. Bisu win against Mind with Carriers. Get Hyped! | ||
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Nowadays I think that T is overpowered =) P has almost no chance in a max fight to win. | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:02 Mrwl wrote: Will there be no english secondary stream today? its online | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:05 hixhix wrote: Is there a non-flash stream? Afreeca requires flash ![]() Wondering the same. Has ASL stopped broadcasting on Twitch? | ||
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Awesome! | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:07 Grettin wrote: Wondering the same. Has ASL stopped broadcasting on Twitch? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/526611-regarding-streaming-of-asl | ||
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superjoppe
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On October 08 2017 19:05 hixhix wrote: Is there a non-flash stream? Afreeca requires flash ![]() I use Safari (Mac) and use set the user agent as iOS, then afreeca uses its html5 stream. I assume other browsers can do the same trick. | ||
sixfour
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On October 08 2017 19:05 hixhix wrote: Is there a non-flash stream? Afreeca requires flash ![]() Change the settings at the bottom right to HTML5. Yes, it sucks that it's not on Twitch | ||
Grettin
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On October 08 2017 19:09 BLinD-RawR wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/526611-regarding-streaming-of-asl Thanks BR, missed this one. Understandable but at the same time this sucks. On October 08 2017 19:10 sixfour wrote: Change the settings at the bottom right to HTML5. Yes, it sucks that it's not on Twitch Thank you. | ||
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sixfour
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On October 08 2017 19:12 superjoppe wrote: Where's Tasteless? Who is this other dude? No Tasteless? I may have to switch off John/Flash if the main casters are tolerable | ||
Scaramanga
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Shuttle > Ssak Shuttle > Bisu Mind < Ssak Bisu < Ssak | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:10 sixfour wrote: Change the settings at the bottom right to HTML5. Yes, it sucks that it's not on Twitch Afreeca stop and cant load when I use HTML5 Here is the link for stream English 1 http://play.afreecatv.com/aslenglish English 2 http://play.afreecatv.com/aslenglish2 Korean FOV http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar3 | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:20 Dantak wrote: omg Rapid :/. Why the hell is this dude still commentating. Have to mute the stream :/. I hate to hate but this guy's commentating skills... Well he can't provide less knowledge than Tasteless. So I'm happy. | ||
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Heartland
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On October 08 2017 19:32 Navane wrote: i missed the opening, how did they get to midgame? CC first into fast third on one fact for Mind, Bisu gas stole and then tried to harass with a Reaver which was blocked by army movement and turrets. There was one small push from Terran that was barely held as Bisu got out his Carriers. Now we're here. | ||
superjoppe
Sweden3683 Posts
On October 08 2017 19:32 Navane wrote: i missed the opening, how did they get to midgame? T went CC, fact, CC. P went Nexus with early reaver and very early carriers. | ||
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Race Bannon
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Those of you getting unbearable lag did you try watching on afreeca with high or medium quality? | ||
thezanursic
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I haven't seen him play this well in years. Perfect Probe Micro --->> Perfect Reaver Micro --->> Perfect Goon Micro --->> Perfect Carrier Micro | ||
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Mrwl
Sweden339 Posts
On October 08 2017 19:33 superjoppe wrote: Well he can't provide less knowledge than Tasteless. So I'm happy. I would advise to watch Afreeca ASL EN2 instead, they be dropping some sick knowledge bombs | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:20 Dantak wrote: omg Rapid :/. Why the hell is this dude still commentating. Have to mute the stream :/. I hate to hate but this guy's commentating skills... Why would you watch the English stream and mute the volume. Watch the Korean. | ||
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thezanursic
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On October 08 2017 19:35 BLinD-RawR wrote: Amazing game. I half expected him to do some kind of early zealot pressure/Proxy gate cheese, like he has been doing a lot over the past 2-3 seasons | ||
Navane
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On October 08 2017 19:33 Heartland wrote: CC first into fast third on one fact for Mind, Bisu gas stole and then tried to harass with a Reaver which was blocked by army movement and turrets. There was one small push from Terran that was barely held as Bisu got out his Carriers. Now we're here. On October 08 2017 19:34 superjoppe wrote: T went CC, fact, CC. P went Nexus with early reaver and very early carriers. Thanks guys! | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:09 BLinD-RawR wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/526611-regarding-streaming-of-asl I understand the logic behind this, since Afreeca runs it, but it kind of killed the foreign viewership, dropping it to a quarter of what it was on twitch. Afreeca isn't really a user friendly service + it doesn't have the established user base. | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:40 thezanursic wrote: I understand the logic behind this, since Afreeca runs it, but it kind of killed the foreign viewership, dropping it to a quarter of what it was on twitch. Afreeca isn't really a user friendly service + it doesn't have the established user base. I know there is another topic about this discussion. But I have to say it again. I don't understand the logic. Afreeca will never be big in the west. Why not have the korean stream on afreeca, and the English stream on twitch? | ||
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superjoppe
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On October 08 2017 19:41 batsnacks wrote: afreeca has an html5 player, you can switch in settings I can only see the html5 switch after I have flash installed. Not the greatest UI design. | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:49 GTR wrote: lol can you not pause in observer mode? lmao Apparently, that caught players offguard it seems. | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:49 GTR wrote: lol can you not pause in observer mode? lmao oh interesting, I hope that's the case cause that was the longest non-action for a "pp" ever | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On October 08 2017 19:49 GTR wrote: lol can you not pause in observer mode? lmao lol i guess not. somehow if this was kespa, they would find a reason to DQ ssak xD | ||
superjoppe
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On October 08 2017 19:49 GTR wrote: lol can you not pause in observer mode? lmao Players get auto loss if they pause, but only players can pause? ![]() | ||
batsnacks
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On October 08 2017 19:48 superjoppe wrote: I can only see the html5 switch after I have flash installed. Not the greatest UI design. yeah I've been having some problems too. source is broken and had to install some kind of "hd player" to watch today? | ||
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On October 08 2017 19:43 Heartland wrote: Please lord, protect us from the horror that is PvP What do you mean Bisu PvP is amazing! He has a 22-3 record in PvP currently, It is by far his best match up. | ||
AManHasNoName
United States165 Posts
On October 08 2017 19:47 superjoppe wrote: I know there is another topic about this discussion. But I have to say it again. I don't understand the logic. Afreeca will never be big in the west. Why not have the korean stream on afreeca, and the English stream on twitch? Because Afreeca has agreements with sponsors regarding the broadcasting of this event. Since they couldn't come to an agreement with Twitch to honor those sponsor contracts, it's simply not an option... | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On October 08 2017 19:57 thezanursic wrote: What do you mean Bisu PvP is amazing! He has a 22-3 record in PvP currently, It is by far his best match up. no you don't understand PvP is garbage | ||
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Sarcasm? PvP is a fun match up, imho Honestly the only MU I don't like is ZvZ. TvZ>TvP>PvZ>TvT>PvP>>>>>ZvZ | ||
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User was warned for this post | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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its the worst mirror | ||
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thezanursic
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Clearly that's ZvZ | ||
RHoudini
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On October 08 2017 20:00 thezanursic wrote: Sarcasm? PvP is a fun match up, imho Honestly the only MU I don't like is ZvZ. TvZ>TvP>PvZ>TvT>PvP>>>>>ZvZ You forgot JvZ in the list. | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:00 AManHasNoName wrote: PvP inc! PogChamp monkaS9 No. Are you crazy. Ssak just played way worse than Mind. Bisu's control was infinitely better. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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tell me of the good PvPs since taekbang rok. | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:02 chuDr3t4 wrote: Nice tactics by Bisu, losing ASL3 Ro4 to get seeded into ASL4 Group C not B and having time to prepare and figure out the map. LOL, that's the best excuse for his trash games in semifinals of last ASL. | ||
THE Sliggy
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ZvZ is 100% the worst mirror. | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:03 jtan wrote: wow, flash might actually be the only terran in the ro8 Flash is all it takes for Terran to win this season | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: tell me of the good PvPs since taekbang rok. That Electric Circuit game where Bisu was playing I think Shuttle or Movie, 2 seasons ago. I remember Bisu was bottom right and the opponent waas top left. I don't precisely remember who the opponent was. | ||
tanngard
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I think every matuchup is fun when you are paying attention to the nuances and generally investing some passion into it. If you decide its "garbage" i think you have already made up your mind to not bother paying attention to the all the great things that is going on in a good PvP. | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:08 tanngard wrote: I think every matuchup is fun when you are paying attention to the nuances and generally investing some passion into it. If you decide its "garbage" i think you have already made up your mind to not bother paying attention to the all the great things that is going on in a good PvP. no you don't understand PvP is garbage | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:16 Navane wrote: HOW THE FUCK did that flank just whither Bisu dropped his dual reavers just when the flank started meaning they had time to fire and melt Shuttle's flanks. Bisu's got good control so you do the math lol. | ||
ShloobeR
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On October 08 2017 20:06 Greg_J wrote: I don't understand the word structure of tesagi. Is it T for terran then 사기. In which case we can just change it to Flash사기. Anyway the point is Flash is overpowered not Terran. Yes 테 or 'Te' for Terran. then 사기 or 'Sagi' for Cheat / Con In Korean a lot of slang takes the first symbol of the words, which is why you get Tesagi instead of Terransagi I guess for flash you could use like like Leesagi or Youngsagi? Peusagi? | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:21 epi wrote: I was hoping they'd ask about the salute ceremony in the interview. Has to be a reference to Airforce ACE and the likelihood that he's going to the military soon, right? doubt ACE will be back, it would easily the most shocking thing to happen | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:20 ne4aJIb wrote: why can't I choose quality of stream on this afreeca?! if you open the stream on their site and switch to html5 mode, you can | ||
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On October 08 2017 20:19 ShloobeR wrote: Yes 테 or 'Te' for Terran. then 사기 or 'Sagi' for Cheat / Con In Korean a lot of slang takes the first symbol of the words, which is why you get Tesagi instead of Terransagi I guess for flash you could use like like Leesagi or Youngsagi? Peusagi? 갓사기, god-sagi. | ||
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oh yeah, for sure | ||
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Who do you think Flash would prefer to face in Ro8? ![]() | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On October 08 2017 20:40 ortseam wrote: Wtf now Mind can TvT? he seems to have learned how to TvT since his exile last season | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On October 08 2017 20:43 VioleTAK wrote: Let's see if Mind can beat the player that he himself has chosen for this group - Shuttle. Who do you think Flash would prefer to face in Ro8? ![]() probably mind. flash's tvt is incredible right now and crossing field TvP is actually giving him some fits with the carrier builds on stream. | ||
Greg_J
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Well I've learned a word. I knew the verb 속이다 - 속여요 to cheat but I didn't know cheat as a noun 사기. I wish Chinese was this easy. There was talk of the loser of this group having to play Flash. So if that is true I think Mind would put up more of a fight than Shuttle. So I'm going to root for Mind. People who don't like Tvt and would rather see Flash smash Shuttle 3:0 are free to root for Shuttle. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On October 08 2017 20:45 Greg_J wrote: Well I've learned a word. I knew the verb 속이다 - 속여요 to cheat but I didn't know cheat as a noun 사기. I wish Chinese was this easy. There was talk of the loser of this group having to play Flash. I think Mind would put up more of a fight than Shuttle. So I'm going to root for Mind. People who don't like Tvt and would rather see Flash smash Shuttle 3:0 are free to root for Shuttle. Flash has been unstoppable in TvT however TvP has been pretty interesting, hes been having trouble like the other terrans on crossing field at least. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On October 08 2017 20:47 VioleTAK wrote: If Shuttle wins... Flash is the only Terran in Ro8... -_- thus denying tesagi | ||
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Strange decision to go carriers on fs imo, meh | ||
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On October 08 2017 21:03 ShloobeR wrote: Good Mindfields there | ||
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chrisolo
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On October 08 2017 21:05 jtan wrote: So this means 50% chance of having mind vs flash next round, could be cool actually! Umm isn't it 33% actually? Or can A only play second place of C or D? | ||
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On October 08 2017 21:07 Essbee wrote: Absolutely fantastic games from mind, saving terran's face lol Strange decision to go carriers on fs imo, meh It's a cross position carrier. www.teamliquid.net People should know by now that cross position Carrier Build is popular. Shuttle does this every time, and he optimized this build into one of his style. Even Bisu admitted this strong build and used in his PvT matches. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3093 Posts
Mind played brilliantly in that last game. Playing a great game against Shuttle, great play. Bisu of course a beast as always. Sad to see Shuttle not make it through though. | ||
SlayerS_BunkiE
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Just realized Bisu might be the only P if neither Rain/Stork dont make it on Tue. Highly unlikely they both advance. Rain has a better chance imo and I do think he ends up advancing, which leaves 2T 2P 4Z in ro8 On tesagi, it really shouldnt be a surprise that if you make maps to nerf flash, you end up with most Ts having a really hard time getting deep in a tourney. | ||
YASHSHAKAR
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But hey he's an edomite. Im not surprised. | ||
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mcmascote
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On that map you can harass with 2zeas+1goon on the back base while poking the T at the ramp with goons, so I thought he wanted to suggest that, but then, there was no point of keeping it near the robo... Did he hide the reaver tech and then realize he wanted Mind to make a lot of turrets to delay a possible push since he was going carriers and the reaver was for defensive purposes (and later to use it in conjunction with the carriers)? Just curious what was the metagame there. If any. Also, Bisu's plan was to catch the T on the high ground but Mind dribbled the reaver and went another path, that could've costed bisu the game. Amazing micro. On Jangbi's 'leaving the army' thread here people were discussing if he was the best PvTer ever or not I mentioned how Jangbi was much better than any toss at using the reaver to defensive purposes, he'd double expo and go reaver tech and still defend such pushes, Bisu pulled a Jangbi here. ![]() 2 tanks were joining the party and Bisu couldn't macro during that battle since the micro was way more intensive for the toss there. Amazing stuff. | ||
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TaardadAiel
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On October 09 2017 06:15 mcmascote wrote: I was wondering what Bisu planned by hiding his robo bay but leaving his shuttle hanging near the robo facility .I doubt that was a mistake, btw. On that map you can harass with 2zeas+1goon on the back base while poking the T at the ramp with goons, so I thought he wanted to suggest that, but then, there was no point of keeping it near the robo... Did he hide the reaver tech and then realize he wanted Mind to make a lot of turrets to delay a possible push since he was going carriers and the reaver was for defensive purposes (and later to use it in conjunction with the carriers)? Just curious what was the metagame there. If any. Also, Bisu's plan was to catch the T on the high ground but Mind dribbled the reaver and went another path, that could've costed bisu the game. Amazing micro. On Jangbi's 'leaving the army' thread here people were discussing if he was the best PvTer ever or not I mentioned how Jangbi was much better than any toss at using the reaver to defensive purposes, he'd double expo and go reaver tech and still defend such pushes, Bisu pulled a Jangbi here. ![]() 2 tanks were joining the party and Bisu couldn't macro during that battle since the micro was way more intensive for the toss there. Amazing stuff. That fight was a pimpest play right there. I was watching the game with my buddies on a huge 107 inch screen and we were all screaming in disbelief. Enormous reaver micro. And I thought pulling a JangBi was pushing with goons and carriers at separate expos and killing both bases or something like that? Or it's just any amazing PvT play? | ||
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Dante08
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On October 09 2017 16:09 TaardadAiel wrote: That fight was a pimpest play right there. I was watching the game with my buddies on a huge 107 inch screen and we were all screaming in disbelief. Enormous reaver micro. And I thought pulling a JangBi was pushing with goons and carriers at separate expos and killing both bases or something like that? Or it's just any amazing PvT play? I don't think it was anything special, reavers do pretty well vs unsieged tanks. I'm not sure why Mind didn't siege, he must have had it at that point. It's practically suicide when attacking into reavers. | ||
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On October 09 2017 16:09 TaardadAiel wrote: That fight was a pimpest play right there. I was watching the game with my buddies on a huge 107 inch screen and we were all screaming in disbelief. Enormous reaver micro. And I thought pulling a JangBi was pushing with goons and carriers at separate expos and killing both bases or something like that? Or it's just any amazing PvT play? Dude that engagement from Bisu was Mind blowing! | ||
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Is it already set that Flash vs Mind will happen, or some kind of draw still needs to take place? | ||
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BigFan
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Really glad that Mind made it! A while back, one of his only donors told him that he'll stop donating so losing in the Ro16 then must've been devastating. Also, he beat sSak and Shuttle really hard. Shuttle looked like he had no chance despite some stellar micro early on. Congrats to Bisu and Mind! | ||
mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
On October 09 2017 19:00 Dante08 wrote: I don't think it was anything special, reavers do pretty well vs unsieged tanks. I'm not sure why Mind didn't siege, he must have had it at that point. It's practically suicide when attacking into reavers. What? He had 6 marines, 2 vults, 5 tanks and two more were close to join the fight and he caught bisu with 4 goons, 2 zeas and a reaver on a shuttle on a favorable position of the map. If that was nothing special then... Not sure what to say. And it was not 'reavers'. It was one reaver. Two reavers are much better and much easier to micro there because they instantly kill a tank and you can just keep switching the reavers. taking one, dropping another and so on and so fort. Also, on why he didn't siege... That was a timing push. He wanted to get at the choke point to siege up. If he kept sieging Bisu would pick the furthest siege one by one. That'd be much easier. Also,Bisu would've time to macro. As you can see on my screen shot he had accumulated 1100+ minerals very early on the game, his newest gates weren't producing units. If mind delayed that Push he'd be ran over by Bisu's production, lose every tank and then be stuck with 3 bases trying to make tanks while also being forced to make liaths to deal with carriers. | ||
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BigFan
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On October 11 2017 02:05 mcmascote wrote: What? He had 6 marines, 2 vults, 5 tanks and two more were close to join the fight and he caught bisu with 4 goons, 2 zeas and a reaver on a shuttle on a favorable position of the map. If that was nothing special then... Not sure what to say. And it was not 'reavers'. It was one reaver. Two reavers are much better and much easier to micro there because they instantly kill a tank and you can just keep switching the reavers. taking one, dropping another and so on and so fort. Also, on why he didn't siege... That was a timing push. He wanted to get at the choke point to siege up. If he kept sieging Bisu would pick the furthest siege one by one. That'd be much easier. Also,Bisu would've time to macro. As you can see on my screen shot he had accumulated 1100+ minerals very early on the game, his newest gates weren't producing units. If mind delayed that Push he'd be ran over by Bisu's production, lose every tank and then be stuck with 3 bases trying to make tanks while also being forced to make liaths to deal with carriers. That was some amazing micro by Bisu, truly top notch. He managed to survive a situation that a lot of protoss players would lose imo. | ||
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