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On September 05 2015 03:13 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2015 12:22 EBPNationWars wrote:On September 03 2015 12:14 Cele wrote:
so, how does qualification for teh Quarterfinals work out, given that we have 3 groups?
Quarter-Finals 1 Week
The top 2 teams from each group qualify for the quarter finals. Yes, it is updated. The two teams with the best stats get seeded into the semi-final. thinking about it, i'm less and less sure, this is a good solution. Obviously the call is up to you, but let me elaborate my argument first: Let's assume for the sake of the Argument, 1) Peru and 2) Canada in Group A, 1) Poland and 2) Euopeean Fusion Group B and 1) Russia 2)Hungary Group C. Peru, Canada, Poland and Russia qualifiy, Canada because it has the best Match score of all 2nd placed. (T his scenario is given as an example, i do not necessarily think it will turn out this way) Now, Cada in this example might qualify because it has the best match score off all second placed teams, but it doesn't tell us if Canada is better than European Fusion (2nd in Group B) or Hungary (second in Group C). If you let only 1 of the 3 2nd placed teams advance, you necessarily need to compare their results against each other, while they played different opponents, in groups that might be quite different from each in terms of level of play. That makes only sense if Group A, B and C are roughly equal, but that might not be the case. In short, i would suggest to alter the system like this a) Let all first placed advance, place all 2nd in a Playoff Group, Round Robin with potential Tiebreakers, only 1 advances. b) Put all 1st and 2nd places in Playoff Group, Round Robin, 1-4 advance. Just a suggestion on my part, let me know what you think.
I'm not opposed to revising the format... I'm not sure how keen I am on either of the proposed. I'm thinking of maybe going back to what we did in Altitude Nation Wars. Top 2 from each group advance, 2 groups of 3 are formed (top 2 overall stats are seeded into separate groups) playoff -> Top 4 advance.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Altitude_Nation_Wars/Finals
I'd like to get leadership input from all teams before proceeding with this or any other change (this is your league as much as it is mine).
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Team hungary is looking kinda frail, I mean if it had Sziky, it would be stand a chance because of Sziky alone, but...
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On September 05 2015 04:33 EBPNationWars wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 03:13 Cele wrote:On September 03 2015 12:22 EBPNationWars wrote:On September 03 2015 12:14 Cele wrote:
so, how does qualification for teh Quarterfinals work out, given that we have 3 groups?
Quarter-Finals 1 Week
The top 2 teams from each group qualify for the quarter finals. Yes, it is updated. The two teams with the best stats get seeded into the semi-final. thinking about it, i'm less and less sure, this is a good solution. Obviously the call is up to you, but let me elaborate my argument first: Let's assume for the sake of the Argument, 1) Peru and 2) Canada in Group A, 1) Poland and 2) Euopeean Fusion Group B and 1) Russia 2)Hungary Group C. Peru, Canada, Poland and Russia qualifiy, Canada because it has the best Match score of all 2nd placed. (T his scenario is given as an example, i do not necessarily think it will turn out this way) Now, Cada in this example might qualify because it has the best match score off all second placed teams, but it doesn't tell us if Canada is better than European Fusion (2nd in Group B) or Hungary (second in Group C). If you let only 1 of the 3 2nd placed teams advance, you necessarily need to compare their results against each other, while they played different opponents, in groups that might be quite different from each in terms of level of play. That makes only sense if Group A, B and C are roughly equal, but that might not be the case. In short, i would suggest to alter the system like this a) Let all first placed advance, place all 2nd in a Playoff Group, Round Robin with potential Tiebreakers, only 1 advances. b) Put all 1st and 2nd places in Playoff Group, Round Robin, 1-4 advance. Just a suggestion on my part, let me know what you think. I'm not opposed to revising the format... I'm not sure how keen I am on either of the proposed. I'm thinking of maybe going back to what we did in Altitude Nation Wars. Top 2 from each group advance, 2 groups of 3 are formed (top 2 overall stats are seeded into separate groups) playoff -> Top 4 advance. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Altitude_Nation_Wars/FinalsI'd like to get leadership input from all teams before proceeding with this or any other change (this is your league as much as it is mine).
i'd be in favor of such a change, i don't know what Gecko's opinion is.
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On September 05 2015 03:13 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2015 12:22 EBPNationWars wrote:On September 03 2015 12:14 Cele wrote:
so, how does qualification for teh Quarterfinals work out, given that we have 3 groups?
Quarter-Finals 1 Week
The top 2 teams from each group qualify for the quarter finals. Yes, it is updated. The two teams with the best stats get seeded into the semi-final. thinking about it, i'm less and less sure, this is a good solution. Obviously the call is up to you, but let me elaborate my argument first: Let's assume for the sake of the Argument, 1) Peru and 2) Canada in Group A, 1) Poland and 2) Euopeean Fusion Group B and 1) Russia 2)Hungary Group C. Peru, Canada, Poland and Russia qualifiy, Canada because it has the best Match score of all 2nd placed. (T his scenario is given as an example, i do not necessarily think it will turn out this way) Now, Cada in this example might qualify because it has the best match score off all second placed teams, but it doesn't tell us if Canada is better than European Fusion (2nd in Group B) or Hungary (second in Group C). If you let only 1 of the 3 2nd placed teams advance, you necessarily need to compare their results against each other, while they played different opponents, in groups that might be quite different from each in terms of level of play. That makes only sense if Group A, B and C are roughly equal, but that might not be the case. In short, i would suggest to alter the system like this a) Let all first placed advance, place all 2nd in a Playoff Group, Round Robin with potential Tiebreakers, only 1 advances. b) Put all 1st and 2nd places in Playoff Group, Round Robin, 1-4 advance. Just a suggestion on my part, let me know what you think.
I think you're misunderstanding the current format.
"Quarter-Finals 1 Week
The top 2 teams from each group qualify for the playoffs, teams 3-6 playoff in the quarter finals
Semi-Finals 1 Week
Quarter-Finals Winners face off against the top 2 teams of the round robin"
Basically the least dominant 1st place team + 3 2nd place teams playoff for the remaining 2 spots in the semifinal, which makes sense. Personally I'm fine with the format how it is.
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On September 03 2015 17:17 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2015 05:42 GeckoXp wrote:
The wars of Team Germany weren't really related to this event in a special way. We are going to keep up fun wars everytime we have the opportunity and as long as any team likes to play us.
I'll also probably don't organize much for the actual play days, due to interferences with another rl hobby of mine on sundays. It'd be therefore a good idea to add ips.kab as co-organizer, he has the experience, the knowledge, the technology, the eloquence, the mojo and all required ingredients to lead our glorious team to victory, to master any obstacle and to entertain the masses. All hail Edmund "ips.kab" Stoiber! but cele said it was in preparation for the nationwars,so it is obvious that this event influyed to the friendly match happen. btw it was a very nice idea,great friendly nation war,if this event is close to that this will turn great.
The point was that we still would play nation wars outside of this league. The posting made it sound as if Team Germany would only play in order to train for this event and stop once it gets going / concluded. Therefore, the wars aren't related. We'd take on clans or other teams maybe. However, let's first see how much time there's left once this thing gets going.
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On September 04 2015 16:17 Myujinsan wrote:Please add  SarenS &  SeaW- to French line-up, ty
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On September 05 2015 14:22 fearthequeen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 03:13 Cele wrote:On September 03 2015 12:22 EBPNationWars wrote:On September 03 2015 12:14 Cele wrote:
so, how does qualification for teh Quarterfinals work out, given that we have 3 groups?
Quarter-Finals 1 Week
The top 2 teams from each group qualify for the quarter finals. Yes, it is updated. The two teams with the best stats get seeded into the semi-final. thinking about it, i'm less and less sure, this is a good solution. Obviously the call is up to you, but let me elaborate my argument first: Let's assume for the sake of the Argument, 1) Peru and 2) Canada in Group A, 1) Poland and 2) Euopeean Fusion Group B and 1) Russia 2)Hungary Group C. Peru, Canada, Poland and Russia qualifiy, Canada because it has the best Match score of all 2nd placed. (T his scenario is given as an example, i do not necessarily think it will turn out this way) Now, Cada in this example might qualify because it has the best match score off all second placed teams, but it doesn't tell us if Canada is better than European Fusion (2nd in Group B) or Hungary (second in Group C). If you let only 1 of the 3 2nd placed teams advance, you necessarily need to compare their results against each other, while they played different opponents, in groups that might be quite different from each in terms of level of play. That makes only sense if Group A, B and C are roughly equal, but that might not be the case. In short, i would suggest to alter the system like this a) Let all first placed advance, place all 2nd in a Playoff Group, Round Robin with potential Tiebreakers, only 1 advances. b) Put all 1st and 2nd places in Playoff Group, Round Robin, 1-4 advance. Just a suggestion on my part, let me know what you think. I think you're misunderstanding the current format. "Quarter-Finals 1 Week The top 2 teams from each group qualify for the playoffs, teams 3-6 playoff in the quarter finals Semi-Finals 1 Week Quarter-Finals Winners face off against the top 2 teams of the round robin" Basically the least dominant 1st place team + 3 2nd place teams playoff for the remaining 2 spots in the semifinal, which makes sense. Personally I'm fine with the format how it is.
yeah thanks for Clarification, this makes sense i agree.
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On September 05 2015 18:34 Myujinsan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2015 16:17 Myujinsan wrote:Please add SarenS & SeaW- to French line-up, ty
Sorry about that, Notes like this are seldom forgotten - It just tends to get added when I have the time. If anyone wants to help maintain the thread for more thorough coverage, it would be greatly appreciated.
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On September 05 2015 16:35 GeckoXp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2015 17:17 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On September 03 2015 05:42 GeckoXp wrote:
The wars of Team Germany weren't really related to this event in a special way. We are going to keep up fun wars everytime we have the opportunity and as long as any team likes to play us.
I'll also probably don't organize much for the actual play days, due to interferences with another rl hobby of mine on sundays. It'd be therefore a good idea to add ips.kab as co-organizer, he has the experience, the knowledge, the technology, the eloquence, the mojo and all required ingredients to lead our glorious team to victory, to master any obstacle and to entertain the masses. All hail Edmund "ips.kab" Stoiber! but cele said it was in preparation for the nationwars,so it is obvious that this event influyed to the friendly match happen. btw it was a very nice idea,great friendly nation war,if this event is close to that this will turn great. The point was that we still would play nation wars outside of this league. The posting made it sound as if Team Germany would only play in order to train for this event and stop once it gets going / concluded. Therefore, the wars aren't related. We'd take on clans or other teams maybe. However, let's first see how much time there's left once this thing gets going.
The wording in the thread was no different than the wording that the community (including the German team) associated to it. Again, my apologies for the issues this caused you. Let's move on from this topic please...
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On September 05 2015 04:58 thezanursic wrote:
Team hungary is looking kinda frail, I mean if it had Sziky, it would be stand a chance because of Sziky alone, but...
Sziky play sc2...retired bw.
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On September 06 2015 00:10 vortiT_T wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 04:58 thezanursic wrote:
Team hungary is looking kinda frail, I mean if it had Sziky, it would be stand a chance because of Sziky alone, but... Sziky play sc2...retired bw.
wow! call him guys, u need him!
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wondering if we can switch it to 4 groups of 3 and top 2 advance. Each team plays eachother team twice... This way we can actually play at like 1-2pm EST for Peru/Canada/USA. Right now I would have people getting up @ 8-11am on a Sunday for BW...
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Also it solves the 2nd round problem... We can just have top 1 from each group seeded into Ro4 bracket.
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no TechnicS for Bulgaria...
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On September 06 2015 17:52 dRaW wrote:
wondering if we can switch it to 4 groups of 3 and top 2 advance. Each team plays eachother team twice... This way we can actually play at like 1-2pm EST for Peru/Canada/USA. Right now I would have people getting up @ 8-11am on a Sunday for BW...
If USA / Peru agree, I wouldn't mind making the CWs later. In that case, you would only have to wake up early 2 days during the round robin which isn't so bad.
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Well 1-2 EST is much better for us so we agree
EDIT : I sent u a pm eywa on ur admin acc
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Write up me. and write vorti me gmail or sas.sziky tl when need to play.
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Sziky is a legend! unless he plays sc2
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im not finding anything about this yet in the rules so, up till when do teams have to submit their lineups prior to a NW ?
Sorry in case i missed it, it's a lot of text (;
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