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fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
September 07 2015 09:11 GMT
#41
On September 06 2015 22:17 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 17:52 dRaW wrote:
wondering if we can switch it to 4 groups of 3 and top 2 advance. Each team plays eachother team twice... This way we can actually play at like 1-2pm EST for Peru/Canada/USA. Right now I would have people getting up @ 8-11am on a Sunday for BW...

If USA / Peru agree, I wouldn't mind making the CWs later. In that case, you would only have to wake up early 2 days during the round robin which isn't so bad.


It's +1 for USA. I think 2 PM EST would be perfect.
NAKR`flying
EBPNationWars
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
Great Britain245 Posts
September 07 2015 12:36 GMT
#42
On September 07 2015 08:50 Cele wrote:
im not finding anything about this yet in the rules so, up till when do teams have to submit their lineups prior to a NW ?

Sorry in case i missed it, it's a lot of text (;

The lineup will be submitted at the time of the match to the attendant admin in the form of a PM to this acct.
EBPNationWars
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
Great Britain245 Posts
September 07 2015 12:38 GMT
#43
Canada, USA & Peru play time changed to 2PM EST, Sweden remains 17CET - Canada has the early play time this week

2PM EST
pe Peru <> us USA

17 CET
ca Canada <> se Sweden
Myujinsan
Profile Joined November 2008
France258 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-07 13:12:34
September 07 2015 13:05 GMT
#44
Hi,

Your posts lost me guyz, so we got 3 pool of 4 team, everyone in a pool play each other twice then top 2 of each pool advance to quarter finals, then its semi finals. then finals.

So far so good but, how you do a quarter final with 6 teams ?

Not that i'm that good in maths or anything but wouldnt 4 pool of 3 team and then 2 of each of them advance solve it ?
EBPNationWars
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
Great Britain245 Posts
September 07 2015 14:34 GMT
#45
On September 07 2015 22:05 Myujinsan wrote:
Hi,

Your posts lost me guyz, so we got 3 pool of 4 team, everyone in a pool play each other twice then top 2 of each pool advance to quarter finals, then its semi finals. then finals.

So far so good but, how you do a quarter final with 6 teams ?

Not that i'm that good in maths or anything but wouldnt 4 pool of 3 team and then 2 of each of them advance solve it ?

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Myujinsan
Profile Joined November 2008
France258 Posts
September 07 2015 14:39 GMT
#46
Thank you ^_^

Is the advanced seed random ?
EBPNationWars
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
Great Britain245 Posts
September 07 2015 14:44 GMT
#47
On September 07 2015 23:39 Myujinsan wrote:
Thank you ^_^

Is the advanced seed random ?

It's the two most dominant teams of the group stage.
LoCcxitO.o
Profile Joined July 2012
Peru104 Posts
September 07 2015 16:01 GMT
#48
On September 07 2015 21:38 EBPNationWars wrote:
Canada, USA & Peru play time changed to 2PM EST, Sweden remains 17CET - Canada has the early play time this week

2PM EST
pe Peru <> us USA

17 CET
ca Canada <> se Sweden


sry; i dont know about EST Time, can you tell me CET time please?
2PM EST = ??? CET
SouL Gaming
fearthequeen
Profile Joined November 2011
United States788 Posts
September 07 2015 16:14 GMT
#49
On September 08 2015 01:01 LoCcxitO.o wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 21:38 EBPNationWars wrote:
Canada, USA & Peru play time changed to 2PM EST, Sweden remains 17CET - Canada has the early play time this week

2PM EST
pe Peru <> us USA

17 CET
ca Canada <> se Sweden


sry; i dont know about EST Time, can you tell me CET time please?
2PM EST = ??? CET


Pretty sure this is easy to figure out using the internet. Anyway... 2 PM EST = 20 CET
NAKR`flying
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6635 Posts
September 07 2015 16:22 GMT
#50
plz add octzerg to fusion europe
radley
Profile Joined August 2008
Poland582 Posts
September 07 2015 16:54 GMT
#51
On September 08 2015 01:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
plz add octzerg to fusion europe


Yes! My favourite zerg joins this.
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
September 07 2015 18:05 GMT
#52
On September 08 2015 01:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
plz add octzerg to fusion europe


octzerg dervies from oktoberfest zerefore he blongs with deutschland.
your move, mittelmeerraum.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 02:30:31
September 08 2015 02:25 GMT
#53
im confused about the map selection, each team gets to veto 1 map but then the maps are randomized and you only know which one you play last minute? whats the point of vetoing then? Its not like a whole team is often going to hate a single map, each player will have different map preferences.. Imo it would be better to have set maps each week so we can actually familiarize ourselves with the map we will play

edit: or just have 1 starting map per week like we did in the german fun clanwars, then the whole team can practice one map
aka DragOn[NaS]
EBPNationWars
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
Great Britain245 Posts
September 08 2015 13:00 GMT
#54
On September 08 2015 11:25 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
im confused about the map selection, each team gets to veto 1 map but then the maps are randomized and you only know which one you play last minute? whats the point of vetoing then? Its not like a whole team is often going to hate a single map, each player will have different map preferences.. Imo it would be better to have set maps each week so we can actually familiarize ourselves with the map we will play

edit: or just have 1 starting map per week like we did in the german fun clanwars, then the whole team can practice one map

I don't want to make it 1 starting map per week because we would pretty much only ever see 2 maps per week in that case, starting map, FS. I think it's better if we go with an assortment of maps, the veto process could be changed however... Maybe it would be good if the veto was done the week before? Then you would know what the maps are, but you still have some input on the map pool.
EBPNationWars
Profile Blog Joined August 2015
Great Britain245 Posts
September 08 2015 13:01 GMT
#55
Will make all pending roster changes tonight.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 13:11:39
September 08 2015 13:05 GMT
#56
On September 08 2015 22:01 EBPNationWars wrote:
Will make all pending roster changes tonight.

no sense to all this incognite about the maps,just 5 starting maps 3 1x1 1 2x2 ace(losser choice from mappack) ,randomizer for next weeks and is up to the teams pick the player by map.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6635 Posts
September 08 2015 13:06 GMT
#57
On September 08 2015 22:05 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2015 22:01 EBPNationWars wrote:
Will make all pending roster changes tonight.

no sense to all this incognite about the maps,just 5 starting maps 3 1x1 1 2x2 ace ,randomizer for next weeks and is up to the teams pick the player by map.


veto sound good for final stages
Jukado
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
805 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-08 16:27:40
September 08 2015 16:15 GMT
#58
While the subject of maps is up may I say;
To get the map variety you could promote 2 or 3 maps each week. All first games are played on one map, and all second games are played on a second map etc.

At the moment the loser can pick from a very large map pool. Players cant prepare them all. So you will see more ‘generic strats’ like 2 factory, and anticlimactic games that end abruptly if one player is unfamiliar with the map.

Whereas if the maps are set each week, players can practice more efficiently and the game quality will be higher.
Its also good because you will see a few games played on the same map in a row. This is good because it means you can directly compare how different players approach the map. Its good for the players too because they can anticipate what their opponent might do having seen what he did last time. It encourages more build up to a climax and demonstration of skill. It also means foreigner maps will get play time which I would like.

If you set the 2nd map as something that is less familiar to everyone, that will give the loser a small help to maybe catchup.

Example
Week 1
Game 1: Othello
Game 2: Chain Reaction
Game 3 if needed: Othello

Week 2
Game 1: Eddy
Game 2: Neo Overwatch
Game 3 if needed: Eddy
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
September 08 2015 22:24 GMT
#59
On September 09 2015 01:15 CardinalAllin wrote:
While the subject of maps is up may I say;
To get the map variety you could promote 2 or 3 maps each week. All first games are played on one map, and all second games are played on a second map etc.

At the moment the loser can pick from a very large map pool. Players cant prepare them all. So you will see more ‘generic strats’ like 2 factory, and anticlimactic games that end abruptly if one player is unfamiliar with the map.

Whereas if the maps are set each week, players can practice more efficiently and the game quality will be higher.
Its also good because you will see a few games played on the same map in a row. This is good because it means you can directly compare how different players approach the map. Its good for the players too because they can anticipate what their opponent might do having seen what he did last time. It encourages more build up to a climax and demonstration of skill. It also means foreigner maps will get play time which I would like.

If you set the 2nd map as something that is less familiar to everyone, that will give the loser a small help to maybe catchup.

Example
Week 1
Game 1: Othello
Game 2: Chain Reaction
Game 3 if needed: Othello

Week 2
Game 1: Eddy
Game 2: Neo Overwatch
Game 3 if needed: Eddy

This is not really up for discussion.

I think eonzerg raised a valid point that map veto serves more of a purpose in the playoffs and for that reason, I will change the format as such.

Otherwise, I want to know from team leaders if they prefer that the map pool be restricted to the 5 starting maps every week or if all of the maps should be in the map pool (likely FS will be played in every set if that's the case - which it currently is).
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
September 08 2015 23:48 GMT
#60
can you please add Benrath to our roster? my faul i forgot to add him earlier.
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