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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On August 30 2015 19:44 amazingxkcd wrote: just to note, most kpop is regurgitated stuff from 90s/2000s american pop crap. More like Scandinavian-composed stuff - see Ice Cream Cake by Red Velvet for evidence On August 30 2015 20:03 Stratos wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/f2DVmDr.jpg) The real reason AOA was invited. DAMN SON | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:01 LegalLord wrote: The stakes don't really feel as high as they did in the Kespa era though... nowhere near the same emotional investment in the outcome as there used to be. Who's emotional investment do you mean? Cuz back then if you didn't win the finals of a starleague you just continued playing on your team. Now if you don't win the finals it can potentially cost you your livelihood and you can go flip burgers. There's no safety net like that right now. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:01 LegalLord wrote: The stakes don't really feel as high as they did in the Kespa era though... nowhere near the same emotional investment in the outcome as there used to be. I really liked SSL11 and followed it pretty much all the way through, staying up late nights here on the Pacific Coast to watch the games live. Few complaints, other than I think Mind vs Hero would've been a better Finals. It may not be a true 'back in the day' OSL or an MSL, but it's pretty darn good and the best we have right now, and/or will have, unless Bliz re-releases BW in some sort of updated form and all the hypeuuuu truly comes back. Be thankful for what you have.  | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:11 Stratos wrote: Who's emotional investment do you mean? Cuz back then if you didn't win the finals of a starleague you just continued playing on your team. Now if you don't win the finals it can potentially cost you your livelihood and you can go flip burgers. There's no safety net like that right now. Quite an irony considering Bisu does have a "safety net" and is probably the biggest of any of the current expros In addition hes not the face of Kongdoo for nothing and OGN acceded to his request for winXP unlike EffOrt. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:13 [[Starlight]] wrote: I really liked SSL11 and followed it pretty much all the way through, staying up late nights here on the Pacific Coast to watch the games live. Few complaints, other than I think Mind vs Hero would've been a better Finals. It may not be a true OSL or an MSL, but it's pretty darn good and the best we have right now, and/or will have, unless Bliz re-releases BW in some sort of updated form and all the hypeuuuu truly comes back. Be thankful for what you have. It's already a pseudo OSL. If KeSPA gets its shit together and recognizes BW again they'll bring back Starleague in no time. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:15 RKC wrote: And while the final was going on, a few players (including NaDa) were happily streaming... Weird... NaDa was re-streaming the finals. Zero was also re-streaming and commentating for a while before he switched to 2v2, possibly because of some balloons? Mong was the venue. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:13 [[Starlight]] wrote: [ It may not be a true 'back in the day' OSL or an MSL, but it's pretty darn good and the best we have right now, and/or will have, unless Bliz re-releases BW in some sort of updated form and all the hypeuuuu truly comes back. Be thankful for what you have. I rather see BW die than have DK/browder do their nonsense on this game. | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3457 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
Ah sorry about that! I shouldn't doubt the bonjwa passion!  I hope NaDa plays competitively again. Would be great for the scene! BTW, where is Jangbi? Now that Protoss is at the brink of extinction (or so BD claims), we need a new hero from Aiur! | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:17 Stratos wrote: Zero was also re-streaming and commentating for a while before he switched to 2v2, possibly because of some balloons? Spotimes 2v2 Hunters tourney now | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:17 Probemicro wrote: I rather see BW die than have DK/browder do their nonsense on this game. Well, yeah. Updated graphics and bnet 2.0, minimal balance changes. DK/Browder are pretty much scrubs compared to the BW design team, it would be horrible to watch them crap all over BW.  | ||
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feckless
1099 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:19 RKC wrote: Ah sorry about that! I shouldn't doubt the bonjwa passion! I hope NaDa plays competitively again. Would be great for the scene! BTW, where is Jangbi? Now that Protoss is at the brink of extinction (or so BD claims), we need a new hero from Aiur! I hope so, too. Deeply. Same with July. Jangbi is in the military, I believe. I think Best might be coming back though? I was never big on Best, but it'd be cool seeing him back. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:15 Ciryandor wrote: It's already a pseudo OSL. If KeSPA gets its shit together and recognizes BW again they'll bring back Starleague in no time. Yeah, but the prize pools are a fraction of what the OSL prize pools were in the heyday. It's incredible what Sonic's done, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking it's exactly the same. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:15 Probemicro wrote: Quite an irony considering Bisu does have a "safety net" and is probably the biggest of any of the current expros In addition hes not the face of Kongdoo for nothing and OGN acceded to his request for winXP unlike EffOrt. Sure but what's he going to do after he's done with Starcraft? His ~3000 viewers won't feed him for the rest of his life and I don't think he has the personality to get successful like YellOw. Unless he becomes a coach somewhere his flashy esports career will likely be of no use to him. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:22 Stratos wrote: Sure but what's he going to do after he's done with Starcraft? His ~3000 viewers won't feed him for the rest of his life and I don't think he has the personality to get successful like YellOw. Unless he becomes a coach somewhere his flashy esports career will likely be of no use to him. Play Vain Glory! (It's funny seeing players on a stage furiously tapping away on a mobile) | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:19 RKC wrote: BTW, where is Jangbi? Now that Protoss is at the brink of extinction (or so BD claims), we need a new hero from Aiur! This IS a problem. With Hero and Effort, there are great Zergs, with Mind and Ssak there are great Terrans, but the Protoss bench is looking awfully thin at the top level with Bisu gone for two years to fight Kim Jong Un. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:22 Stratos wrote: Sure but what's he going to do after he's done with Starcraft? His ~3000 viewers won't feed him for the rest of his life and I don't think he has the personality to get successful like YellOw. Unless he becomes a coach somewhere his flashy esports career will likely be of no use to him. hey he just won 10 million won you know. after the army pretty sure he can play into his 30s, just like NaDa/Iris is doing. he already has marketing/modelling gigs and who knows what else arranged on Kongdoo TV should be loaded by the time hes 40. On August 30 2015 20:28 [[Starlight]] wrote: This IS a problem. With Hero and Effort, there are great Zergs, with Mind and Ssak there are great Terrans, but the Protoss bench is looking awfully thin at the top level with Bisu gone for two years to fight Kim Jong Un. Jangbi is in the army Bisu is tired old and washed out True best SKT toss BeSt will show em whats up. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On August 30 2015 20:29 Probemicro wrote: hey he just won 10 million won you know. after the army pretty sure he can play into his 30s, just like NaDa/Iris is doing. he already has marketing/modelling gigs and who knows what else arranged on Kongdoo TV should be loaded by the time hes 40. 10 million won is all of $8,000 or so. He's going to be making most of his money elsewhere. Fortunately he has looks on his side, he should have a pretty good TV career. | ||
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