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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 30 2015 10:44 GMT
#881
On August 30 2015 19:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:32 Qikz wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:27 BisuDagger wrote:
[image loading]

most easy liquibet points in my life, bisu fanboys


Well I guess Hero had to beat Bisu once in his life. There's always next time.

On August 30 2015 19:32 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:28 Qikz wrote:
I'm always amazed at the sheer difference between JPOP and KPOP. JPOP is all about the cute. KPOP is all about the girls getting dirty it always seems haha.


Aren't they both just about being selected to be in a band based on looks rather than musical talent?


Mostly, the same as it is everywhere else.

I'm just talking about the performances.

Eh, there's some US and UK pop where the groups actually have some musical talent.

Feels like we partially outgrew that stuff once acts like the Spice Girls and Britney Spears bit the dust. Maybe Korea and Japan are about a decade behind us there.

I mean, yeah, there'll always be vapid pop prettified by kewpie doll girls (and boys), but how seriously it gets taken/how popular it is will be diminished.





just to note, most kpop is regurgitated stuff from 90s/2000s american pop crap.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 30 2015 10:46 GMT
#882
On August 30 2015 19:44 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:32 Qikz wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:27 BisuDagger wrote:
[image loading]

most easy liquibet points in my life, bisu fanboys


Well I guess Hero had to beat Bisu once in his life. There's always next time.

On August 30 2015 19:32 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:28 Qikz wrote:
I'm always amazed at the sheer difference between JPOP and KPOP. JPOP is all about the cute. KPOP is all about the girls getting dirty it always seems haha.


Aren't they both just about being selected to be in a band based on looks rather than musical talent?


Mostly, the same as it is everywhere else.

I'm just talking about the performances.

Eh, there's some US and UK pop where the groups actually have some musical talent.

Feels like we partially outgrew that stuff once acts like the Spice Girls and Britney Spears bit the dust. Maybe Korea and Japan are about a decade behind us there.

I mean, yeah, there'll always be vapid pop prettified by kewpie doll girls (and boys), but how seriously it gets taken/how popular it is will be diminished.





just to note, most kpop is regurgitated stuff from 90s/2000s american pop crap.

Exactly, but as we all know korean > foreign stuff
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51399 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 10:46:56
August 30 2015 10:46 GMT
#883
He was happy to see lots of fans.

It must have been a surprise to go 3:0?
Today it seemed to be my day. I was just taking it one set at a time.

Something about the first set knowing Bisu would’ve proxied?
Thanks ZerO for helping figure out strategies?

Final Words: This season, it was my first tournament victory and it made me very happy. I hope to continue my form and for the next season do just as well. Thank you.

this is all i got from listening and trying to translate with my shitty korean lol
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
August 30 2015 10:46 GMT
#884
On August 30 2015 19:20 xccam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:16 thezanursic wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:13 Stratos wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:10 thezanursic wrote:
On August 30 2015 18:56 iamho wrote:
Great SSL. I'll look forward to seeing Mind vs Hero finals next season.

I think you guys are hyping up hero to much.

...

Even though hero won I'd still argue Bisu is a far better player atm.


yeah we're all overhyping hero and poor Bisu is not appreciated. sure.


No Bisu was overhyped when it came to this finals. The odds were in heros favour.

Even as a Bisu fan I have to admit that in SSL9, hero clearly choked, he should've won it, but hero is not that phenomenal outside of PvZ.

I'd love to get on the hero hype train, but he really does need to up his ZvZ and ZvT


he's doing ok at the moment I'd say

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If he can keep the streak up or atleast continue to win against insane terrans, I'm on board, but I'm still skeptical about his ZvT and ZvZ
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4149 Posts
August 30 2015 10:46 GMT
#885
On August 30 2015 19:43 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:41 lestye wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:41 Ciryandor wrote:
SSL should have a different sponsor next season T_T

wut why


it makes sense, hes not saying he doesn't want SBENU he wants more sponsor involvement.


Oh gotcha, IDK, Sonic is so invested in it. The league is much as much his baby as Sbenu is, it'd make sense to have those both grow eachother. Ideally there will be other sponsor opportunities.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
August 30 2015 10:47 GMT
#886
On August 30 2015 19:23 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:10 thezanursic wrote:
On August 30 2015 18:56 iamho wrote:
Great SSL. I'll look forward to seeing Mind vs Hero finals next season.

I think you guys are hyping up hero to much.

Yes. He is a god in PvZ, but his other match ups are kinda average ~50% WR. If the scenario was switched hero getting Mind in the SF and Bisu getting Free, I think hero wouldn't have even gotten to the finals.

Even though hero won I'd still argue Bisu is a far better player atm. Bisu's worst MU has bren PvZ over the last two years, while being God in the other two, hero has been a God in Pvz and meh in the other two.


If it ever gets to a hero vs top non-toss finals. Hero is losing.

looks like you been out for a long time,is not the case anymore,Hero now is good in everymatchup maybe the most weaker zvz but still enough to win anyone.

Possible, I haven't followed the scene as closely in 2015. I watched basically everything in 2013 and early 2014.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
August 30 2015 10:47 GMT
#887
On August 30 2015 19:46 GTR wrote:
He was happy to see lots of fans.

It must have been a surprise to go 3:0?
Today it seemed to be my day. I was just taking it one set at a time.

Something about the first set knowing Bisu would’ve proxied?
Thanks ZerO for helping figure out strategies?

Final Words: This season, it was my first tournament victory and it made me very happy. I hope to continue my form and for the next season do just as well. Thank you.

this is all i got from listening and trying to translate with my shitty korean lol

Thanks! much appreciated
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
August 30 2015 10:49 GMT
#888
On August 30 2015 19:46 GTR wrote:
He was happy to see lots of fans.

It must have been a surprise to go 3:0?
Today it seemed to be my day. I was just taking it one set at a time.

Something about the first set knowing Bisu would’ve proxied?
Thanks ZerO for helping figure out strategies?

Final Words: This season, it was my first tournament victory and it made me very happy. I hope to continue my form and for the next season do just as well. Thank you.

this is all i got from listening and trying to translate with my shitty korean lol

This is nice. Thanks.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
August 30 2015 10:49 GMT
#889
On August 30 2015 19:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:44 amazingxkcd wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:32 Qikz wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:27 BisuDagger wrote:
[image loading]

most easy liquibet points in my life, bisu fanboys


Well I guess Hero had to beat Bisu once in his life. There's always next time.

On August 30 2015 19:32 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:28 Qikz wrote:
I'm always amazed at the sheer difference between JPOP and KPOP. JPOP is all about the cute. KPOP is all about the girls getting dirty it always seems haha.


Aren't they both just about being selected to be in a band based on looks rather than musical talent?


Mostly, the same as it is everywhere else.

I'm just talking about the performances.

Eh, there's some US and UK pop where the groups actually have some musical talent.

Feels like we partially outgrew that stuff once acts like the Spice Girls and Britney Spears bit the dust. Maybe Korea and Japan are about a decade behind us there.

I mean, yeah, there'll always be vapid pop prettified by kewpie doll girls (and boys), but how seriously it gets taken/how popular it is will be diminished.





just to note, most kpop is regurgitated stuff from 90s/2000s american pop crap.

Exactly, but as we all know korean > foreign stuff

Better crappy music is still crappy music tho'.

But their girls are hotter in general.

User was warned for being hilarious
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 30 2015 10:49 GMT
#890
On August 30 2015 19:44 GTR wrote:
i am playing this by ear holy shit it is so hard
(to translate the press interview live)

Wouldn't even bother, the guys there will have it up right after the interview ends so you can just take that and translate it.
En Taro Violet
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 30 2015 10:50 GMT
#891
On August 30 2015 19:49 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:44 amazingxkcd wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:32 Qikz wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:31 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:27 BisuDagger wrote:
[image loading]

most easy liquibet points in my life, bisu fanboys


Well I guess Hero had to beat Bisu once in his life. There's always next time.

On August 30 2015 19:32 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:28 Qikz wrote:
I'm always amazed at the sheer difference between JPOP and KPOP. JPOP is all about the cute. KPOP is all about the girls getting dirty it always seems haha.


Aren't they both just about being selected to be in a band based on looks rather than musical talent?


Mostly, the same as it is everywhere else.

I'm just talking about the performances.

Eh, there's some US and UK pop where the groups actually have some musical talent.

Feels like we partially outgrew that stuff once acts like the Spice Girls and Britney Spears bit the dust. Maybe Korea and Japan are about a decade behind us there.

I mean, yeah, there'll always be vapid pop prettified by kewpie doll girls (and boys), but how seriously it gets taken/how popular it is will be diminished.





just to note, most kpop is regurgitated stuff from 90s/2000s american pop crap.

Exactly, but as we all know korean > foreign stuff

Better crappy music is still crappy music tho'.

But their girls are hotter in general.


Well yeah the music is terrible obviously
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
August 30 2015 10:51 GMT
#892
Still waiting for a Mind vs Hero series.

They didn't play even a single game in this SSL, did they?

User was warned for being hilarious
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 10:52:15
August 30 2015 10:51 GMT
#893
So ZerO is on hero's side?

so that means bisu only has EffOrt (most likely considering EffOrt did not stream much lately but is regularly online on fish)...and maybe Larva/Hyuk. LOL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49972 Posts
August 30 2015 10:57 GMT
#894
On August 30 2015 19:51 Probemicro wrote:
So ZerO is on hero's side?

so that means bisu only has EffOrt (most likely considering EffOrt did not stream much lately but is regularly online on fish)...and maybe Larva/Hyuk. LOL


larva has decent ZvP though.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 30 2015 11:01 GMT
#895
Bummer, but hero really did play it better this time around. Things really just went his way overall, as he said.

The stakes don't really feel as high as they did in the Kespa era though... nowhere near the same emotional investment in the outcome as there used to be.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 30 2015 11:03 GMT
#896
[image loading]

The real reason AOA was invited.
En Taro Violet
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 30 2015 11:04 GMT
#897
On August 30 2015 19:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:51 Probemicro wrote:
So ZerO is on hero's side?

so that means bisu only has EffOrt (most likely considering EffOrt did not stream much lately but is regularly online on fish)...and maybe Larva/Hyuk. LOL


larva has decent ZvP though.


still too inconsistent

On August 30 2015 20:01 LegalLord wrote:
Bummer, but hero really did play it better this time around. Things really just went his way overall, as he said.

The stakes don't really feel as high as they did in the Kespa era though... nowhere near the same emotional investment in the outcome as there used to be.


Bet that this defeat will continue to linger in Bisu's mind (and his fans) when he goes for army eventually.
kinda good in a sense that it will make Bisu not give up on this game yet
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
August 30 2015 11:04 GMT
#898
On August 30 2015 20:01 LegalLord wrote:
Bummer, but hero really did play it better this time around. Things really just went his way overall, as he said.

The stakes don't really feel as high as they did in the Kespa era though... nowhere near the same emotional investment in the outcome as there used to be.

I am inclined to slightly agree. Honestly, I thought it was a great tournament. Truthfully, I love this game more than the struggles or victories of any particular player, though I suppose it's nice to root for or against certain people. I loved that highlights reel at the end, think I saw every game there. I've really missed watching BW like this, and it's great there are so many people keeping this game alive. Supporting it. Watching it. Playing it. The affection I have for this game is so deep it borders on the perverse. Let's call it passion. It's a different era, surely, but I still enjoyed every minute of it.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8614 Posts
August 30 2015 11:05 GMT
#899
well lets be honest. hero is the best zerg in the current scene thanks to the win, but in the old days theres no way hed even hit ro4
the scene overall has lost a lot of strong players, mainly bangleessang
even if bisu won i dont think he would have been happy as he would have had he won an osl in bw's prime
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 11:07:19
August 30 2015 11:06 GMT
#900
On August 30 2015 20:05 evilfatsh1t wrote:
well lets be honest. hero is the best zerg in the current scene thanks to the win, but in the old days theres no way hed even hit ro4
the scene overall has lost a lot of strong players, mainly bangleessang
even if bisu won i dont think he would have been happy as he would have had he won an osl in bw's prime


hero has definitely improved quite a bit since those days, while bisu has only seem to stagnate somewhat and grow complacent under the mountain of balloons he gets everyday on stream

can't really compare eras
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