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xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
August 30 2015 10:12 GMT
#781
On August 30 2015 19:11 mutantmagnet wrote:
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On August 30 2015 18:59 Darksoldierr wrote:
The third match was really good, felt like with no corsairs, it took too long for Bisu to get the 3rd down

Thanks for the stream Sayle and co.



Let's be real. Bisu had a huge 20 supply early on. If he parked 4 goons near his base the muta harass wouldn't have been as effective and he mostly likely wouldn't have done all of those storms on probes because the goons would blunt the muta micro tempo.


Even after killing his own probes Bisu eventually recovered thanks to the DT harass. He could've closed this out with pure gateway units and observers if he leveraged his 30 supply lead better. Bisu had 3-4 chances to close out the game but didn't.


Oh well, it was fun to watch.


20-30 supply isn't that far a lead against zerg, especially once Lurkers and then swarm come out.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 30 2015 10:13 GMT
#782
On August 30 2015 19:12 thezanursic wrote:
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On August 30 2015 19:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:05 Qikz wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[image loading]

THE TEARS THEY FEEL SO GOOD!


It's been 6 years now and I still hate you so damn much when someone not SKT wins. How have you been so persistant at making me feel anger every damn time.

I seem to remember you doing the same in the 2010 and 2012 OSL finals FanTaSy lost too. You are my eternal rival.


hah, I only have one rival, BisuDagger


Bo5 Grudge match, GO!


they have no grudge since they're the LR brothers now.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
August 30 2015 10:13 GMT
#783
On August 30 2015 19:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On August 30 2015 19:10 Ciryandor wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:07 letian wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:07 Ciryandor wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:05 Qikz wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:03 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[image loading]

THE TEARS THEY FEEL SO GOOD!


It's been 6 years now and I still hate you so damn much when someone not SKT wins. How have you been so persistant at making me feel anger every damn time.

I seem to remember you doing the same in the 2010 and 2012 OSL finals FanTaSy lost too. You are my eternal rival.


You can always needle him about Flash betraying Brood War and being a scrub in SC2 for KT.

lol


you know I'm immune to flash hate right?


But not to Stats hate. Basically any KT ribbing, you still feel hurt inside.


fuck.

you know me too well

That's why I <3 you bro, no homo. Good games today. Hopefully more in the future. (I had goosebumps in Mind series, it was that close to vT Bisu curse, but OSL curse too strong)

(Yes I'm fuckin drunk at 6 PM)
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 30 2015 10:13 GMT
#784
On August 30 2015 19:10 thezanursic wrote:
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On August 30 2015 18:56 iamho wrote:
Great SSL. I'll look forward to seeing Mind vs Hero finals next season.

I think you guys are hyping up hero to much.

...

Even though hero won I'd still argue Bisu is a far better player atm.


yeah we're all overhyping hero and poor Bisu is not appreciated. sure.
En Taro Violet
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 30 2015 10:14 GMT
#785
The problem is Bisu couldn't afford to go attack the 4th and 5th of Hero. Had he moved around to try and do it,, Hero would've just done the same thing.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
August 30 2015 10:14 GMT
#786
On August 30 2015 19:09 prech wrote:
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On August 30 2015 19:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:04 prech wrote:
hero interview:

< stratosj> 'i won't be able to forget this moment. i prepared really hard and made some mistakes but still won so i'm happy'
< stratosj> 'hero saying they have an affectionate relationship and saying i love u to mom and dad' :D
< hamyunghoo> hero is said he's not as good as his career high
< hamyunghoo> there's so many people whom you want to say thanks
< hamyunghoo> I've played quite a lot with BYUN HYUN JAE
< hamyunghoo> thanks to him, nor serving military service
< hamyunghoo> nor - now
< hamyunghoo> Im not gonna be too much proud of myself
< hamyunghoo> and next time be better
< hamyunghoo> continued

who is BYUN HYUN JAE ?

(P)Mini - quite a PvZ monster himself!


bythe result i cant deny this LOL
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
August 30 2015 10:14 GMT
#787
I think Bisu could have easily sniped the 7 o clock expo with the zealot attack early on but he didn't focus the lair.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 10:15:26
August 30 2015 10:15 GMT
#788
bisu just clearly does not want to be there (@prize ceremony)
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
August 30 2015 10:15 GMT
#789
On August 30 2015 19:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:10 tanngard wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:08 Stratos wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:07 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:04 prech wrote:
hero interview:

< stratosj> 'i won't be able to forget this moment. i prepared really hard and made some mistakes but still won so i'm happy'
< stratosj> 'hero saying they have an affectionate relationship and saying i love u to mom and dad' :D
< hamyunghoo> hero is said he's not as good as his career high
< hamyunghoo> there's so many people whom you want to say thanks
< hamyunghoo> I've played quite a lot with BYUN HYUN JAE
< hamyunghoo> thanks to him, nor serving military service
< hamyunghoo> nor - now
< hamyunghoo> Im not gonna be too much proud of myself
< hamyunghoo> and next time be better
< hamyunghoo> continued

who is BYUN HYUN JAE ?

Mini.


Seriously? Mini will come back and save protoss on day


mini is in the army no?


Yeah, but how long? It has to have been over 6 months..he actually is really good so im looking forward to his return
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 10:18:16
August 30 2015 10:15 GMT
#790
Bisu won 10 million won
Hero won 20 million won
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http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
August 30 2015 10:15 GMT
#791
On August 30 2015 19:14 Qikz wrote:
The problem is Bisu couldn't afford to go attack the 4th and 5th of Hero. Had he moved around to try and do it,, Hero would've just done the same thing.


He had enough forces on the 2nd ridge to divert his main group into the middle, then the middle bottom ridge to the 4th, forcing hero to reposition to defend the 3rd, opening his back-up group of zealots to stream to nat or do a pincer maneuver. Not enough scouting lost him that game.
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 30 2015 10:15 GMT
#792
On August 30 2015 19:10 Ciryandor wrote:
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On August 30 2015 19:10 c3rberUs wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:09 RKC wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:03 Darksoldierr wrote:
On August 30 2015 19:01 Ciryandor wrote:
On August 30 2015 18:59 Darksoldierr wrote:
The third match was really good, felt like with no corsairs, it took too long for Bisu to get the 3rd down

Thanks for the stream Sayle and co.


He could've broken the 4th and 3rd but was trying to bash in the natural with his army. Bought time for hero to econ and take down his expos.


Agree, i felt like he has an army lead yet couldn't break into the nat


Bisu could've attacked the outer expansions to cripple hero's economy, but instead he felt confident enough to break through the front to destroy hero's tech and main base. Turns out to be a bad call. Hero held well with dark swarm, and teched to ultras for the win.

Once hero out-teched Bisu (no corsairs, super late reavers), he had the game won.

Maybe Bisu could've broke through the front with more zealots and less goons?

There were too many lurkers for zeals to break through imo. I do agree that Bisu should've diverted some units to target the 4th and 3rd.

He never had a proper chance to actually try to smash the 4th and 3rd.


It was a back and forth game.

hero did well early on with muta harass to pin Bisu back and delay his expo. Then Bisu managed to out-expand hero and take a superior army lead (but perhaps because hero was teching hard and willing to sacrifice map control).

So did Bisu ever have a lead? If yes, what could he have done to close the game?


gg no re thx
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 30 2015 10:15 GMT
#793
it's just like kim carry said. if it became a game of two ppl we're fucked. we need players like hero stepping it up in big style like this.
En Taro Violet
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11285 Posts
August 30 2015 10:16 GMT
#794
Well congrats to HerO, he played damn well.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES49973 Posts
August 30 2015 10:16 GMT
#795
On August 30 2015 19:15 xboi209 wrote:
Bisu won 10 million won


thats a lot of won for no won games

kekekekekeke
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
August 30 2015 10:16 GMT
#796
On August 30 2015 19:13 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 19:10 thezanursic wrote:
On August 30 2015 18:56 iamho wrote:
Great SSL. I'll look forward to seeing Mind vs Hero finals next season.

I think you guys are hyping up hero to much.

...

Even though hero won I'd still argue Bisu is a far better player atm.


yeah we're all overhyping hero and poor Bisu is not appreciated. sure.


No Bisu was overhyped when it came to this finals. The odds were in heros favour.

Even as a Bisu fan I have to admit that in SSL9, hero clearly choked, he should've won it, but hero is not that phenomenal outside of PvZ.

I'd love to get on the hero hype train, but he really does need to up his ZvZ and ZvT
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
hydrogg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States377 Posts
August 30 2015 10:17 GMT
#797
the flower, check, trophy in 2 hands problem again!
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 10:17:41
August 30 2015 10:17 GMT
#798
On August 30 2015 19:15 xboi209 wrote:
Bisu won 10 million won


That's about $8,000, I think.


User was warned for being hilarious
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
August 30 2015 10:17 GMT
#799
I missed it T.T When/where VODs? Plsu asapu
Enjoy the game
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
August 30 2015 10:17 GMT
#800
Yes, smile hero. Gaze into the crowd. You are GOD.
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