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Nation Wars returns to Brood War, this time with a prizepool of $480! Nation Wars will start on September 13th and will run through to November 15th. If you want to see all of the best players from your nation perform, 1v1... 2v2... We've got it here!
Set 1 - 1v1 Set 2 - 1v1 Set 3 - 1v1 Set 4 - 2v2 Ace - 1v1
The 1v1, 2v2 and ace are considered separate, thus they can feature repeat players. However, a single player cannot play in more than 2 sets.
Example:
(Okay)
1v1 - Vanatir, Bakuryu, Cryoc
Ace: Bakuryu
2v2: Vanatir + FA]Reflection
(bad - Vanatir is in violation)
1v1 - Vanatir, Bakuryu, Cryoc
Ace: Vanatir
2v2: Vanatir + FA]Reflection
The first map each week will be pre-determined, however, each team participating in the Nation War will have the opportunity to veto one of the seven selections. + Show Spoiler [Veto process] +
7 maps are presented per week, the participating teams must each select 1 map to veto, that map will be removed from the pool for this week, it will not be the first map of any set and cannot be selected by any player for that Nation War. Teams cannot veto a map that isn't listed in the starting maps for that week however, teams may opt to not veto a map.
Veto requests must be submitted 48 hours or more before the Nation War
Once both veto request are in OR 48 hours before the event, the maps will be shuffled by tournament administrators and assigned to their respective sets. The optimal 2v2 map will be prioritized to the 2v2 match before the shuffle begins.
(4) 815 III (4) Wind and Cloud (4) Sniper Ridge (4) Gladiator (4) Troy (4) La Mancha (4) Andromeda (4) Othello (4) Eye of the Storm (4) Beltway (4) Electric Circuit (4) Icarus (4) Empire Of The Sun (4) Jade (4) Ground Zero (4) Latin Quarter (4) Road Kill (4) Toad Stone (4) Eddy (4) Fighting Spirit (4) Circuit Breaker
Qualifiers (If Necessary) There is a cap of 16 Nations which will be allowed in the main event, if there is any debate as to which Nation is more worthy, regional qualifiers will be held.
Round Robin 6 Weeks Nations are divided into pools of 4 according to geographical location and will play each team in their pool twice. - Note a pool may be dedicated to all nations that don't belong to a single geographical location.
Quarter-Finals 1 Week The top 2 teams from each group qualify for the quarter finals.
Semi-Finals 1 Week Quarter-Finals Winners face off
Finals 2 Weeks - $400/$80 Best of 2 - The team with the most set wins takes the victory. In the event of a tie, a final ace match will be played.
1) Administrative Discretion - All players and teams are subject to administrative discretion.
2) Communication - All team leaders must be capable of communicating in English - If an interpreter is needed, multiple interpreters should be available on the roster - Offensive language is strictly prohibited - Bad manner towards other players and admins is strictly prohibited - Only team leaders may communicate with organizers about official league matters
3) All games must be played on Fish Server using Mini or mca Launcher.
4) Participation Requirements - You must be a resident of the country for which you sign up for in order to participate in the tournament. For exceptions, see stand-in policy. - All players must use their primary ID along with their country tag in the following format: must[RU], G5[US] - Nation rosters must contain a minimum of 10 players in order for the nation to be considered eligible ~ Exceptions may apply, contact league administrators.
Exceptions - Korea may not participate in the tournament
- China may field a team for the event under the following conditions: An interpreter is required to be present at all times.
China must field a minimum of 3 backup players for each match.
China must field a "primary" "secondary" "terciary" for each set of a match in the event a substitution is required.
If all players in the backup slots for China have been cycled due to lag, the opposing team will be required to replace their player, however, they could use a player that has already played in the match.
If a replacement player for the opposing team is still unable to play the terciary player for China, the cycle will begin again through "primary", "secondary", "walk over".
A walk over may be avoided in a NON-ELIMINATION match if both teams agree to try with another player.
If both teams attempt with another player, the walk over cannot be claimed again until all of the back ups have been cycled.
5) Sets & Walk Overs - All sets must be played on the proper maps - the use of incorrect maps will result as a draw, both players will be banned from their next nation war - No repeat maps may be used within a best of 3 set. - All players should be able to either host, or play in games with 3 players. Failure to meet either of these requirements may result in walk over in extreme cases. - If a player disconnects from a game due to internet issues and/or Launcer issues, the player may be re-entered or replaced. If the player disconnects a second time, the set will be counted as a loss by walk over - IP conflicts will be handled on a case-to-case basis, teams should always have 1 reserve player ready in case of conflict. - Players who are likely to have a conflict must have a backup in case of an issue. The backup could constitute a swap with a player from another set, but it must be indicated before the lineups are released. - PP matches must be scheduled a minimum of 24 hours before hand with league organizers - Players must have /dnd active at all times while in Official Nation Wars games.
6) Rules concerning stand-ins - Stand-ins cannot be from either China or Korea.
- Permanent stand-ins Permanent stand-ins are players which are on a nation's roster, but are not native to that nation. Permanent stand-ins may be permitted and will be evaluated on a case to case basis, a permanent stand-in must meet the following requirements:
The stand-in lives in a country neighboring the nation and/or a country with cultural resemblance
The stand-in must not reside in a nation that currently has a team
The nation which is applying for the permanent stand-in does not have a sufficient amount of players to field a roster.
- Temporary Stand-ins Temporary stand-in are permitted and will be allowed for all Nation Wars games, a temporary stand-in must meet the following requirements:
The stand-in is present on the list of the Nation’s back up team
The stand-in is not playing for any nation within the same pool as the team which he is standing in for.
If the stand-in is part of another team in a different pool, he can only be used during the first round of the round robin.
The stand-in can only be on one nation's reserve list.
The stand-in can only play in two Nation Wars.
Only 2 stand-in is permitted per week.
Only 6 stand-ins may be used in the round robin.
Only 2 stand-in may be used in the playoffs.
A max of 2 stand-ins may be present on the roster at any given time.
League admins reserve the right to reject a stand-in from joining the roster.
7) All replays must be submitted to esport-bettingNW@gmail.com by the winning player, failure to do so will result in reversal of the match.
8) Abuse - Any player found abusing in any way will be attributed with a permanent ban from the Nation Wars, in addition, the clan war which was abused in will be counted as a loss for the abusing player's team. - Organizers reserve the right to attribute losses to previous nation wars depending on the severity of the abuse - Players with former cases hacking and abuse must contact the organizers of the tournament before being admitted to play in this league. Organizers reserve the right to refuse these players.
9) If you have any questions about the rules, you must contact the organization, not knowing the rules or misinterpreting them is not an excuse.
The organization would also like to reach out to the community to make it possible for viewers to enjoy the games in their native language. We encourage other casters to join in on the broadcasting. We ask however, that when you broadcast for the event, please use official league overlays and associate your stream to the event on www.teamliquid.net.
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On August 07 2015 16:27 Probemicro wrote: i was wondering if this is actually posted in the correct forums...esports-betting.pro never offered BW bets before
Yep, it's BW. Good stuff, looking forward to this.
On August 07 2015 13:03 Cele wrote: some more information would be good. How many players per team? what format? Maps? 1on1's or also 2on2's ?
cool though :D
The complete information thread will come out soon, however, I would like to address some of these in the meantime.
There must be at least 10 players per team (5 required for a NW)
3x 1v1 1x 2v2 1x 1v1
All sets best of 3
Maps (minus the first map for each set) will be selected by the players, the map pool is fairly large, it includes a lot of foreigner made maps, it includes new SOSPA maps and many KeSPA maps as well. -> Map pool to come with the full thread.
1. Who are you? 2. Which nation other than Poland and Russia could possibly field an active roster of 10 players with enough skill to really compete in such a league? Will you merge countries?
No offense, but the last event with comparably little information left behind really bad memories.
On August 07 2015 16:27 Probemicro wrote: i was wondering if this is actually posted in the correct forums...esports-betting.pro never offered BW bets before
esports-betting.pro doesn't actually do betting themselves, they are primarily a fan/review site for esports betting sites. This is primarily a fan project for them at the moment. They love esports and they want to explore what Brood War is all about. So, for this event, they haven't approached any of their partners and there won't be any betting sites offering these matches.
On August 07 2015 19:58 GeckoXp wrote: 1. Who are you? 2. Which nation other than Poland and Russia could possibly field an active roster of 10 players with enough skill to really compete in such a league? Will you merge countries?
No offense, but the last event with comparably little information left behind really bad memories.
I do apologize for any memories this might surface... We thought this was the most intuitive approach to release as much information that has been proof-read as possible. We hope that you can take comfort in knowing that the full thread will be released in the coming days...
This is a shared account between all of the admins of the league.
Unfortunately, we feel that the second discussion point can be said about any event. We felt that at this juncture, a Nation Wars event made sense and would yield more competition than many alternatives. We would like however, to limit the discussion on this as it isn't particularly inspiring and doesn't contribute to anything positive.
The second point is crucial - how are you supposed to organize a team without knowing who you can recruit? That's not a "negative contribution", it's something organizers need to know.
On August 07 2015 21:58 GeckoXp wrote: The second point is crucial - how are you supposed to organize a team without knowing who you can recruit? That's not a "negative contribution", it's something organizers need to know.
We aren't encouraging merged countries at this point, but it is a possibility. We also have a stand-in policy ready, so nations should primarily focus on their own activity and then once we have an idea of how active a nation is, we will review the options available for their situation.
Please update the OP with all the full amount of information. When I posted earlier I figured you were so excited that you hit post before finishing. The lack of information and clarity in the OP has me concerned that GeckoXp's worries are legit.
On August 07 2015 21:58 GeckoXp wrote: The second point is crucial - how are you supposed to organize a team without knowing who you can recruit? That's not a "negative contribution", it's something organizers need to know.
We aren't encouraging merged countries at this point, but it is a possibility. We also have a stand-in policy ready, so nations should primarily focus on their own activity and then once we have an idea of how active a nation is, we will review the options available for their situation.
well, Gecko has a good point. though, you shouldn't lael his comment as not helpful so quick. Not even the countries with a rather active player pool will be able to send ten players, which is a shame. Sending 5 players on the other hand, would be a thing that is doable for some, butt will still need some countries to merge. If you force teams to have 10 players, we very well might have a "central europe" team. And that will be quite boring. For example, Germany could probably field 5 players, 3x 1on1 and 1x 2on2 in Bakuryu, vanatir, Cryoc + whoever plays the best 2on2 atm, but 10 players is completely undo-able. Russia, Poland, Sweden or whoever is left won't be able to nominate 10 guys either.
In short: don't take this comments as a negative, but as a sign of positive interest from players. Furthermore i strongly suggest making the teams smaller.
i could organize for team sweden tho, might get trek back if he wants to, tuffer plays occasionally also with gurram/naugrim etc.
voddy is active ruskig i don't know anymore if hes semi active bischu perhaps dark - perhaps? i might join my pal deanotic just came back, i'll ask him he used to be good runa plays some but i don't know how active he really is datoby is semi inactive, dunno about him..
we have some players that are active, if this is happening i can look it up.
I agree with Gecko. Please do not post any 'League upcoming' threads unless there is some substance with the post. You could have just waited until having all information before posting. It comes across as unprofessional and unorganized considering past circumstances.
On August 07 2015 22:59 BisuDagger wrote: Please update the OP with all the full amount of information. When I posted earlier I figured you were so excited that you hit post before finishing. The lack of information and clarity in the OP has me concerned that GeckoXp's worries are legit.
It's kind of the point of a teaser trailer, but the tournament information is coming soon...
On August 07 2015 21:58 GeckoXp wrote: The second point is crucial - how are you supposed to organize a team without knowing who you can recruit? That's not a "negative contribution", it's something organizers need to know.
We aren't encouraging merged countries at this point, but it is a possibility. We also have a stand-in policy ready, so nations should primarily focus on their own activity and then once we have an idea of how active a nation is, we will review the options available for their situation.
well, Gecko has a good point. though, you shouldn't lael his comment as not helpful so quick. Not even the countries with a rather active player pool will be able to send ten players, which is a shame. Sending 5 players on the other hand, would be a thing that is doable for some, butt will still need some countries to merge. If you force teams to have 10 players, we very well might have a "central europe" team. And that will be quite boring. For example, Germany could probably field 5 players, 3x 1on1 and 1x 2on2 in Bakuryu, vanatir, Cryoc + whoever plays the best 2on2 atm, but 10 players is completely undo-able. Russia, Poland, Sweden or whoever is left won't be able to nominate 10 guys either.
In short: don't take this comments as a negative, but as a sign of positive interest from players. Furthermore i strongly suggest making the teams smaller.
If the players are active and can attend the clan wars, then there is no need to have 10 players on the roster, but for a team as small as you're describing, we probably want to look at some stand-in options by players from out of country.
On August 08 2015 03:55 castleeMg wrote: i would like to help organize for canada
Can we mix both USA and Canada as the North America team?
It's a possibility, however, I think it's best that each country tries to organize itself separately first. If USA can gather its players and bring them back into activity, they should have an edge on just about all teams, except Poland.
Canada also has plenty of strong players, they just need some commitment.
If it's absolutely necessary however, a merger will be considered.
On August 08 2015 12:07 dRaW wrote: I agree with Gecko. Please do not post any 'League upcoming' threads unless there is some substance with the post. You could have just waited until having all information before posting. It comes across as unprofessional and unorganized considering past circumstances.
We do apologize for any problems this causes... We weren't aware that trailers and teasers were considered as such. We will re-evaluate our policy if any future events are held, unfortunately, the branding of this event has already been planned in a certain manner. We will do our best to avoid uncomfortable situations like this for the remainder of the event.
I want to be a part of team GB, or UK, or Western Europe, or whatever team ends up including England!
Organising the team would be too much work for me at the moment though, hopefully someone else can step up for this. I'm looking forward to more details on the tournament!
On August 08 2015 17:34 ImbaTosS wrote: I want to be a part of team GB, or UK, or Western Europe, or whatever team ends up including England!
Organising the team would be too much work for me at the moment though, hopefully someone else can step up for this. I'm looking forward to more details on the tournament!
On August 07 2015 21:58 GeckoXp wrote: The second point is crucial - how are you supposed to organize a team without knowing who you can recruit? That's not a "negative contribution", it's something organizers need to know.
We aren't encouraging merged countries at this point, but it is a possibility. We also have a stand-in policy ready, so nations should primarily focus on their own activity and then once we have an idea of how active a nation is, we will review the options available for their situation.
well, Gecko has a good point. though, you shouldn't lael his comment as not helpful so quick. Not even the countries with a rather active player pool will be able to send ten players, which is a shame. Sending 5 players on the other hand, would be a thing that is doable for some, butt will still need some countries to merge. If you force teams to have 10 players, we very well might have a "central europe" team. And that will be quite boring. For example, Germany could probably field 5 players, 3x 1on1 and 1x 2on2 in Bakuryu, vanatir, Cryoc + whoever plays the best 2on2 atm, but 10 players is completely undo-able. Russia, Poland, Sweden or whoever is left won't be able to nominate 10 guys either.
In short: don't take this comments as a negative, but as a sign of positive interest from players. Furthermore i strongly suggest making the teams smaller.
If the players are active and can attend the clan wars, then there is no need to have 10 players on the roster, but for a team as small as you're describing, we probably want to look at some stand-in options by players from out of country.
i was just throwing some names around. What your saying is way to inexplicit by the way. I mean if an organizer tries to contact all the players in order to form a team, he needs to have certainty if the lineup he presents is enough or not. It would be silly do waste a lot of time and effort only to have the TO assign players to your team, becasue they deem it to small.
So how many players does a team need precisly to get accepted?
On August 09 2015 01:13 FyRe_DragOn wrote: id like to play for team canada dont have enough time/commitment to be able to lead tho, and canadians are lazy as fuck so gl to whoever does lol
You should get a non-Canadian to lead your country :p
On August 07 2015 21:58 GeckoXp wrote: The second point is crucial - how are you supposed to organize a team without knowing who you can recruit? That's not a "negative contribution", it's something organizers need to know.
We aren't encouraging merged countries at this point, but it is a possibility. We also have a stand-in policy ready, so nations should primarily focus on their own activity and then once we have an idea of how active a nation is, we will review the options available for their situation.
well, Gecko has a good point. though, you shouldn't lael his comment as not helpful so quick. Not even the countries with a rather active player pool will be able to send ten players, which is a shame. Sending 5 players on the other hand, would be a thing that is doable for some, butt will still need some countries to merge. If you force teams to have 10 players, we very well might have a "central europe" team. And that will be quite boring. For example, Germany could probably field 5 players, 3x 1on1 and 1x 2on2 in Bakuryu, vanatir, Cryoc + whoever plays the best 2on2 atm, but 10 players is completely undo-able. Russia, Poland, Sweden or whoever is left won't be able to nominate 10 guys either.
In short: don't take this comments as a negative, but as a sign of positive interest from players. Furthermore i strongly suggest making the teams smaller.
If the players are active and can attend the clan wars, then there is no need to have 10 players on the roster, but for a team as small as you're describing, we probably want to look at some stand-in options by players from out of country.
i was just throwing some names around. What your saying is way to inexplicit by the way. I mean if an organizer tries to contact all the players in order to form a team, he needs to have certainty if the lineup he presents is enough or not. It would be silly do waste a lot of time and effort only to have the TO assign players to your team, becasue they deem it to small.
So how many players does a team need precisly to get accepted?
It's not an exact science... Ideally, we want to avoid walk overs wherever possible. It really depends on the players that sign up and their dedication. As the rules indicate, 10 is the number of players required for a team, however, exceptions can be made. ~ If 10 players are not available, the nation can request stand-ins or can request to play with as few as 7 players on their roster. ~ Neither option can be guaranteed depending on the activity of the other nations and activity of the potential players not signed up from the nation running the request.
On August 09 2015 01:13 FyRe_DragOn wrote: id like to play for team canada dont have enough time/commitment to be able to lead tho, and canadians are lazy as fuck so gl to whoever does lol
First off, I'd probably be interested in a sort-of organizer role for Germany. However, not the main admin, more a supporting role for infrastructure, news and so on. I guess Cele will jump in soon enough. Anyhow...
There are still open questions and some of the rules give me a headache. For instance the stand-in section: From the top of my head I could think of at least one player who does not "reside" in Germany, but Switzerland. He is German. I still need an exception for that? Not that you have any way to actually find out where he's really from or where he's playing, given that there are border regions and areas which share languages to a certain extent (DE/AT/CH + parts of CZ/DK/PL/FR, FR/NL/BE, UK, ...). Next, what do you understand by "culture resemblance"? Almost all EU and Western countries share somewhat similar "cultural" views.
Also, the map section is kind of strange. It was standard to set one or two maps as starting maps (1v1 and 2v2), more doesn't make much sense. I like the idea that you try to use foreigner maps. However, making them more popular is easier if you set them as MOTW one by one, not all of them at the same time, including vetoes. Since we're with vetoes, it'd be easier to make a pool per week (7 maps, 2 vetoes), otherwise the veto idea will swamp you and start to get annoying over time; plus FS always as loser choice.
Last, and most important, who are you?. You keep saying it's "the organization, the organizers" - that's not a person. I know it's you Eywa and I have no problem trying your event. However, I will not risk to throw away my spare time if it's only you. You're bound to miss one or two weeks due to real life issues - and that's not meant as personal offense. I'd really appreciate a full list of your co-workers.
This is awesome, I always loved nation wars please PLEASE don't give up and be sure to ask for help if you are understaffed! I will try to organise a team for Bulgaria
On August 10 2015 16:00 GeckoXp wrote: First off, I'd probably be interested in a sort-of organizer role for Germany. However, not the main admin, more a supporting role for infrastructure, news and so on. I guess Cele will jump in soon enough. Anyhow...
There are still open questions and some of the rules give me a headache. For instance the stand-in section: From the top of my head I could think of at least one player who does not "reside" in Germany, but Switzerland. He is German. I still need an exception for that? Not that you have any way to actually find out where he's really from or where he's playing, given that there are border regions and areas which share languages to a certain extent (DE/AT/CH + parts of CZ/DK/PL/FR, FR/NL/BE, UK, ...). Next, what do you understand by "culture resemblance"? Almost all EU and Western countries share somewhat similar "cultural" views.
Also, the map section is kind of strange. It was standard to set one or two maps as starting maps (1v1 and 2v2), more doesn't make much sense. I like the idea that you try to use foreigner maps. However, making them more popular is easier if you set them as MOTW one by one, not all of them at the same time, including vetoes. Since we're with vetoes, it'd be easier to make a pool per week (7 maps, 2 vetoes), otherwise the veto idea will swamp you and start to get annoying over time; plus FS always as loser choice.
Last, and most important, who are you?. You keep saying it's "the organization, the organizers" - that's not a person. I know it's you Eywa and I have no problem trying your event. However, I will not risk to throw away my spare time if it's only you. You're bound to miss one or two weeks due to real life issues - and that's not meant as personal offense. I'd really appreciate a full list of your co-workers.
Concerning the stand-in rule, if the player permanently resides in Switzerland, then it does count as an exception, however, it is a very easy exception to sort out and would be approved very quickly. If it's temporary residence, then it isn't an exception.
Cultural resemblance is just to make it clear that we're not accepting USA with a German stand-in and we're not accepting Russia with a stand-in from the UK. It's very loosely placed borders, but I think it's good enough to meet the purpose, it allows several countries in Europe to overlap on the player pool available.
Concerning maps, the foreigner maps will only be played if the players want to play them. There are 2 vetoes per week and at most 2 new maps in the pool. After that, it's player selection for which, as you indicated, it'll most likely be familiar map choices such as FS. We can change it so that the map pool only contains the maps listed every week (for 1v1 only), but that doesn't seem like it'll get the best reception from the players. It seems better to assign 1 map per player and then allow them to choose their preferred map from the full pool which is how i is set up currently.
Unsure if the rules say so already, but there is supposed to be a no duplicate rule within the Bo3 for map selection. Will be added if it's not already there.
On August 10 2015 19:29 BulgarianToss wrote: This is awesome, I always loved nation wars please PLEASE don't give up and be sure to ask for help if you are understaffed! I will try to organise a team for Bulgaria
On August 10 2015 16:00 GeckoXp wrote: First off, I'd probably be interested in a sort-of organizer role for Germany. However, not the main admin, more a supporting role for infrastructure, news and so on. I guess Cele will jump in soon enough. Anyhow...
There are still open questions and some of the rules give me a headache. For instance the stand-in section: From the top of my head I could think of at least one player who does not "reside" in Germany, but Switzerland. He is German. I still need an exception for that? Not that you have any way to actually find out where he's really from or where he's playing, given that there are border regions and areas which share languages to a certain extent (DE/AT/CH + parts of CZ/DK/PL/FR, FR/NL/BE, UK, ...). Next, what do you understand by "culture resemblance"? Almost all EU and Western countries share somewhat similar "cultural" views.
Also, the map section is kind of strange. It was standard to set one or two maps as starting maps (1v1 and 2v2), more doesn't make much sense. I like the idea that you try to use foreigner maps. However, making them more popular is easier if you set them as MOTW one by one, not all of them at the same time, including vetoes. Since we're with vetoes, it'd be easier to make a pool per week (7 maps, 2 vetoes), otherwise the veto idea will swamp you and start to get annoying over time; plus FS always as loser choice.
Last, and most important, who are you?. You keep saying it's "the organization, the organizers" - that's not a person. I know it's you Eywa and I have no problem trying your event. However, I will not risk to throw away my spare time if it's only you. You're bound to miss one or two weeks due to real life issues - and that's not meant as personal offense. I'd really appreciate a full list of your co-workers.
Concerning the stand-in rule, if the player permanently resides in Switzerland, then it does count as an exception, however, it is a very easy exception to sort out and would be approved very quickly. If it's temporary residence, then it isn't an exception.
Cultural resemblance is just to make it clear that we're not accepting USA with a German stand-in and we're not accepting Russia with a stand-in from the UK. It's very loosely placed borders, but I think it's good enough to meet the purpose, it allows several countries in Europe to overlap on the player pool available.
Concerning maps, the foreigner maps will only be played if the players want to play them. There are 2 vetoes per week and at most 2 new maps in the pool. After that, it's player selection for which, as you indicated, it'll most likely be familiar map choices such as FS. We can change it so that the map pool only contains the maps listed every week (for 1v1 only), but that doesn't seem like it'll get the best reception from the players. It seems better to assign 1 map per player and then allow them to choose their preferred map from the full pool which is how i is set up currently.
Unsure if the rules say so already, but there is supposed to be a no duplicate rule within the Bo3 for map selection. Will be added if it's not already there.
What's the purpose of map per player? One map for all 1v1 makes a lot more sense. Double map rule makes sense, but not sure if you can really inforce it, especially since most players will either ignore it or agree to use it twice. Not that I like it or anything, but that's usually what happens in leagues and minor tournaments.
On August 10 2015 16:00 GeckoXp wrote: First off, I'd probably be interested in a sort-of organizer role for Germany. However, not the main admin, more a supporting role for infrastructure, news and so on. I guess Cele will jump in soon enough. Anyhow...
Im quite okay with you showing interest in beeing the team captain/whatever for Team Germany. I'd like to contribute to this obviously and i'll think the situation will most likely be one, where players figure out themselves who plays where and when and where, as you said, we could take care of News/infrastructure/ that kind of stuff. Dissapointed to see you hold on to the 10 player rosters. Let's see if we can gather enough players for a Ger/Swiss/Austria Team, which seems the way to go atm.
Current team leaders are indicated in the thread, those are the people you need to reach out to in order to participate in the event. Please also post here if you are having difficulties reaching them.
There are still many vacancies for team leaders, please PM this account if you are interested in becoming a team leader. If there is a conflict, they will be dealt with case to case.
On August 08 2015 06:14 neteX wrote: i could organize for team sweden tho, might get trek back if he wants to, tuffer plays occasionally also with gurram/naugrim etc.
voddy is active ruskig i don't know anymore if hes semi active bischu perhaps dark - perhaps? i might join my pal deanotic just came back, i'll ask him he used to be good runa plays some but i don't know how active he really is datoby is semi inactive, dunno about him..
we have some players that are active, if this is happening i can look it up.
Could you confirm that you will be leading this team, then we will add you to the thread so that people know exactly who to contact.
There is so much interest for team USA in the thread, could you guys take some time to figure out who will be leading the charge on that front and PM me or post here? I would like to add that information to the OP.
On August 11 2015 14:13 Ribbed_Sphinx wrote: Hi, I'd like to join representing the USA.
This is unfortunately not really sufficient for anyone to help you... There is now a player sign up format in the OP. Could you please use it and post again.
On August 08 2015 17:34 ImbaTosS wrote: I want to be a part of team GB, or UK, or Western Europe, or whatever team ends up including England!
Organising the team would be too much work for me at the moment though, hopefully someone else can step up for this. I'm looking forward to more details on the tournament!
The time has come !
Some of the countries of Western Europe are probably going to be the first to receive a merge as I don't see any of them really forming a complete team ~ Do you think you'll be able to form a team, which countries do you think you'll need to do so?
to the german players reading this: we are already well underway with our efforts to form a german Team and it's looking quite encouraging so far. However, we might not know if some Gosu players are active or not and we have troubles reaching others.
So, if you are good enough and interested, contact me or Gecko via PM here. Remag if you read this, contact us (;
On August 08 2015 17:34 ImbaTosS wrote: I want to be a part of team GB, or UK, or Western Europe, or whatever team ends up including England!
Organising the team would be too much work for me at the moment though, hopefully someone else can step up for this. I'm looking forward to more details on the tournament!
The time has come !
Some of the countries of Western Europe are probably going to be the first to receive a merge as I don't see any of them really forming a complete team ~ Do you think you'll be able to form a team, which countries do you think you'll need to do so?
We were always a part of the german team so right now im a bit loss.
On August 08 2015 17:34 ImbaTosS wrote: I want to be a part of team GB, or UK, or Western Europe, or whatever team ends up including England!
Organising the team would be too much work for me at the moment though, hopefully someone else can step up for this. I'm looking forward to more details on the tournament!
The time has come !
Some of the countries of Western Europe are probably going to be the first to receive a merge as I don't see any of them really forming a complete team ~ Do you think you'll be able to form a team, which countries do you think you'll need to do so?
We were always a part of the german team so right now im a bit loss.
It honestly depends how active Germany is, they should be able to field a team with only 1 or 2 stand-ins which doesn't account for all of Western Europe. Of course, you are entitle to either apply to be on team Germany as a permanent stand-in if you choose which has a strong chance of being accepted in this case.
On August 08 2015 17:34 ImbaTosS wrote: I want to be a part of team GB, or UK, or Western Europe, or whatever team ends up including England!
Organising the team would be too much work for me at the moment though, hopefully someone else can step up for this. I'm looking forward to more details on the tournament!
The time has come !
Some of the countries of Western Europe are probably going to be the first to receive a merge as I don't see any of them really forming a complete team ~ Do you think you'll be able to form a team, which countries do you think you'll need to do so?
We were always a part of the german team so right now im a bit loss.
We expect your application soon. Make sure you include a poem about the achievements of our beloved star Mondragon or a painting of one of FiSheYe's most glorious victories.
i personally would prefer an abstract on Goethe's "Faust" and it's meaning for post-materialistic germans kids in rural societies.
But all Jokes aside, the german team is looking to field a team of it's own players and ATM we are not actively looking for standins, we also can not guarantee that they will have a Chance to play, as we have most likely enough players.
We were always a part of the german team so right now im a bit loss.
True, in the recent past, where nationwars have almost exclusively consisted of merged teams, As for this event, we actively try to field a national team again, we feel it's the most fun this way, coz it's the underlying idea of Nationwars. I think a lot of western european countries will not field a team of their own and be happy to merge, however i hope, some countries will be able to send a team of their own, it's the most fun imho (;
So good luck to everybody in creating their teams!
On August 12 2015 02:20 Cele wrote: i personally would prefer an abstract on Goethe's "Faust" and it's meaning for post-materialistic germans kids in rural societies.
But all Jokes aside, the german team is looking to field a team of it's own players and ATM we are not actively looking for standins, we also can not guarantee that they will have a Chance to play, as we have most likely enough players.
We were always a part of the german team so right now im a bit loss.
True, in the recent past, where nationwars have almost exclusively consisted of merged teams, As for this event, we actively try to field a national team again, we feel it's the most fun this way, coz it's the underlying idea of Nationwars. I think a lot of western european countries will not field a team of their own and be happy to merge, however i hope, some countries will be able to send a team of their own, it's the most fun imho (;
So good luck to everybody in creating their teams!
bw is even less active than before,but well gl with your purified project -.-
Guys zaraki and me looking for some nation that would like to count with us :D
On August 12 2015 02:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i guess bettter wait for elegant,he always lead us as sole one .
We can probably form a team with the rest of Europe once the main teams have formed. You can definitely have a good team if you're able to get players like dsaqwe, alfio, you, zaraki, various, karate. We'll have to pull these guys back into activity.
On August 12 2015 02:20 Cele wrote: i personally would prefer an abstract on Goethe's "Faust" and it's meaning for post-materialistic germans kids in rural societies.
But all Jokes aside, the german team is looking to field a team of it's own players and ATM we are not actively looking for standins, we also can not guarantee that they will have a Chance to play, as we have most likely enough players.
We were always a part of the german team so right now im a bit loss.
True, in the recent past, where nationwars have almost exclusively consisted of merged teams, As for this event, we actively try to field a national team again, we feel it's the most fun this way, coz it's the underlying idea of Nationwars. I think a lot of western european countries will not field a team of their own and be happy to merge, however i hope, some countries will be able to send a team of their own, it's the most fun imho (;
So good luck to everybody in creating their teams!
bw is even less active than before,but well gl with your purified project -.-
Guys zaraki and me looking for some nation that would like to count with us :D
It's not about us not wanting you, it's more like we seem to get enough players. It'd be stupid to annex you, if you could try to get a team together on your own. It's not of much use if this thing here ends up with like four teams in total.
I have a question, all of the people who are going to participate as players should fill the form and post here in order to be eligible or the team leader's list will be more important? Because not everyone uses TL and it might be hard to get everyone to post here as confirmation of his status.
On August 12 2015 03:07 BulgarianToss wrote: I have a question, all of the people who are going to participate as players should fill the form and post here in order to be eligible or the team leader's list will be more important? Because not everyone uses TL and it might be hard to get everyone to post here as confirmation of his status.
It is not a requirement, it's for the players who aren't in contact with their team leader.
On August 12 2015 02:20 Cele wrote: i personally would prefer an abstract on Goethe's "Faust" and it's meaning for post-materialistic germans kids in rural societies.
But all Jokes aside, the german team is looking to field a team of it's own players and ATM we are not actively looking for standins, we also can not guarantee that they will have a Chance to play, as we have most likely enough players.
We were always a part of the german team so right now im a bit loss.
True, in the recent past, where nationwars have almost exclusively consisted of merged teams, As for this event, we actively try to field a national team again, we feel it's the most fun this way, coz it's the underlying idea of Nationwars. I think a lot of western european countries will not field a team of their own and be happy to merge, however i hope, some countries will be able to send a team of their own, it's the most fun imho (;
So good luck to everybody in creating their teams!
bw is even less active than before,but well gl with your purified project -.-
Guys zaraki and me looking for some nation that would like to count with us :D
It's not about us not wanting you, it's more like we seem to get enough players. It'd be stupid to annex you, if you could try to get a team together on your own. It's not of much use if this thing here ends up with like four teams in total.
i know german team should have enough players,since the koth and the ger forums seems to be powering the german scene,but zaraki and i we are just 2 players and always been part of WE that at the end it was more like zaraki eon and ger team in most of the nw with some exceptions.
What team can i play for? I doubt if there are enough bw players in Ukraine to make a national team. So maybe I could compete for Sweden as I currently reside here.
On August 12 2015 04:38 marwin wrote: What team can i play for? I doubt if there are enough bw players in ukraine to make a national team. So maybe I could compete for Sweden as I currently reside here.
Yes, you will be allowed to compete for Scandinavia.
On August 12 2015 05:06 neteX wrote: I thought i was gonna be the leader of (scandinavia) well i said sweden but i didn't know the countries were supposed to merge.
You can ~ We aren't making any decisions on the behalf of the nation unless there is a conflict, it was assumed that you were working together... You will be added to the thread ~ Post if there is a conflict/any issues.
On August 12 2015 05:06 neteX wrote: I thought i was gonna be the leader of (scandinavia) well i said sweden but i didn't know the countries were supposed to merge.
I removed Scandinavia for now because if your team is mostly Swedish, it will simply be team Sweden (with potential Standins).
Happy to see you are using foreign maps. Though I dont think the current system will give them much play time unfortunately. Each week players will have to prepare for a specific map but only for 1 game. So they have to practice their own map, and also help their team mates prepare for a different map too. Also the veto system will probably mean that foreigner maps will get excluded.
How about promote 1 map each week. Make it so that each week, all of the first games are played on 1 map. This way players can prepare more efficiently rather than splitting practice time between their own map and helping their teammates for a different map.
So week 1 you promote (4)Eddy. All 1st games are played on it. Then loser picks as normal. In the week that promotes (2)Neo Overwatch, you could use Eddy as the 2v2 map etc.
Lastly, the map pool is so large! Rather than using all 3 of my maps for just a single game each, Id rather you use just one map (Latin Quarter) but more times. This will reward players investing a bit of practice on it. So yeah thats what I would do, promote a single foreigner map each week and repeat cycle them. (Cross Game, Neo Overwatch, Roadkill, Eddy, Latin Quarter)
On August 12 2015 07:10 CardinalAllin wrote: Happy to see you are using foreign maps. Though I dont think the current system will give them much play time unfortunately. Each week players will have to prepare for a specific map but only for 1 game. So they have to practice their own map, and also help their team mates prepare for a different map too. Also the veto system will probably mean that foreigner maps will get excluded.
How about promote 1 map each week. Make it so that each week, all of the first games are played on 1 map. This way players can prepare more efficiently rather than splitting practice time between their own map and helping their teammates for a different map.
So week 1 you promote (4)Eddy. All 1st games are played on it. Then loser picks as normal. In the week that promotes (2)Neo Overwatch, you could use Eddy as the 2v2 map etc.
Lastly, the map pool is so large! Rather than using all 3 of my maps for just a single game each, Id rather you use just one map (Latin Quarter) but more times. This will reward players investing a bit of practice on it. So yeah thats what I would do, promote a single foreigner map each week and repeat cycle them. (Cross Game, Neo Overwatch, Roadkill, Eddy, Latin Quarter)
The goal is to make the new maps available, but not to force the players to use them. If we selected 1 map on a given week, everyone would have to play that map. It's not really the spirit that we want to encourage.
Also, the reasoning for the map pool is primarily to give an advantage to the loser of the first game, this way we might see more interesting games, or at least closer games and sets.
On August 13 2015 23:32 VIPrandom wrote: Alright, I'm down to join team Canada. Let's bring back the good old [tC] tag! Is Draw the official team leader of the team?
Yes, Draw is currently the leader of this team. Though, a second leader would be good (this goes for all teams). This can be presented with the roster however.
On August 13 2015 23:32 VIPrandom wrote: Alright, I'm down to join team Canada. Let's bring back the good old [tC] tag! Is Draw the official team leader of the team?
Yes, Draw is currently the leader of this team. Though, a second leader would be good (this goes for all teams). This can be presented with the roster however.
btw when do we have to present the rosters? ("we" organizers)
by the way, can the same players play 1on1 that play 2on2? for example:
1v1:
Vanatir Bakuryu Cryoc
Ace: aLc.SuM
2v2: Vanatir+ FA]Reflection
(just an example)
would this be an okay lineup or can't Vanatir, in this case, play 2on2 coz he already played 1on1? And what about the ace match? Do we have to determine before the NW who is going to be the ace?
On August 14 2015 00:37 Cele wrote: by the way, can the same players play 1on1 that play 2on2? for example:
1v1:
Vanatir Bakuryu Cryoc
Ace: aLc.SuM
2v2: Vanatir+ FA]Reflection
(just an example)
would this be an okay lineup or can't Vanatir, in this case, play 2on2 coz he already played 1on1? And what about the ace match? Do we have to determine before the NW who is going to be the ace?
To answer your other question, there is no firm date yet... So it will be set now, all rosters should be submitted by the 30th of September.
The second question is good because we haven't properly addressed it in the thread... The 1v1, 2v2 and ace are considered separate, thus they can feature repeat players. However, a single player cannot play in more than 2 sets.
Example:
(Okay)
1v1 - Vanatir, Bakuryu, Cryoc
Ace: Bakuryu
2v2: Vanatir + FA]Reflection
(bad - Vanatir is in violation)
1v1 - Vanatir, Bakuryu, Cryoc
Ace: Vanatir
2v2: Vanatir + FA]Reflection
The ace will be set as soon as it is required (once the series is 2-2). ~ This is done to ensure that the ace players are available at the time it should be played.
On August 14 2015 00:37 Cele wrote: by the way, can the same players play 1on1 that play 2on2? for example:
1v1:
Vanatir Bakuryu Cryoc
Ace: aLc.SuM
2v2: Vanatir+ FA]Reflection
(just an example)
would this be an okay lineup or can't Vanatir, in this case, play 2on2 coz he already played 1on1? And what about the ace match? Do we have to determine before the NW who is going to be the ace?
To answer your other question, there is no firm date yet... So it will be set now, all rosters should be submitted by the 30th of September.
The second question is good because we haven't properly addressed it in the thread... The 1v1, 2v2 and ace are considered separate, thus they can feature repeat players. However, a single player cannot play in more than 2 sets.
Example:
(Okay)
1v1 - Vanatir, Bakuryu, Cryoc
Ace: Bakuryu
2v2: Vanatir + FA]Reflection
(bad - Vanatir is in violation)
1v1 - Vanatir, Bakuryu, Cryoc
Ace: Vanatir
2v2: Vanatir + FA]Reflection
The ace will be set as soon as it is required (once the series is 2-2). ~ This is done to ensure that the ace players are available at the time it should be played.
On August 14 2015 07:45 GeckoXp wrote: you're too late, Scan's already learning German.
no way,we have discovered that the grandpa of the granpa of the grandpa of scan had spanish blood,the more natural will be scan playing in the spanish team ^^ in this case for Western Europe ^^
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On August 12 2015 03:07 BulgarianToss wrote: I have a question, all of the people who are going to participate as players should fill the form and post here in order to be eligible or the team leader's list will be more important? Because not everyone uses TL and it might be hard to get everyone to post here as confirmation of his status.
It is not a requirement, it's for the players who aren't in contact with their team leader.
""To participate as a player: POST HERE NOW! ~ Sign up even if you don't think your country can field a team! You may be merged with another country or group of countries."
Game wanted me to post to indicate his interest in playing on your team, he wants xkcd to lead... He also wants you guys to reach out to all of the old USA players ~ I'm not sure exactly who he means exactly, I'm assuming Michael, flip, dredredre, Semih, Jumper... Though, you probably are already doing this.
On August 14 2015 22:26 EndingLife wrote: Is anyone on that list even active? Including game that is.
Probably not, I know Game has played a few games, though not much. Also, Jumper participated in TLC... It's worth it to try to reach out to them though, I mean, they'll still be good players with a little bit of practice.
What if i don't manage to get enough players on my team? Am i counted as a player too though i'm the leader? Because it is looking a bit grim for now and i don't think i can manage to get 10 players(including me) :/
PS An option would be for our region to merge as a team again like last time we were "Eastern Europe" and it included some EE countries though it was basically bg players + octzerg back then :D
On August 14 2015 23:17 BulgarianToss wrote: What if i don't manage to get enough players on my team? Am i counted as a player too though i'm the leader? Because it is looking a bit grim for now and i don't think i can manage to get 10 players(including me) :/
PS An option would be for our region to merge as a team again like last time we were "Eastern Europe" and it included some EE countries though it was basically bg players + octzerg back then :D
Yes, you count as a player. How many players do you have currently?
You will be able to collect a couple stand-ins from other European countries. Maybe dsaqwe/octzerg (or whoever is active). If you require a merge with 3 or more players, then we will rename it to Eastern Europe.
On August 14 2015 22:26 EndingLife wrote: Is anyone on that list even active? Including game that is.
Probably not, I know Game has played a few games, though not much. Also, Jumper participated in TLC... It's worth it to try to reach out to them though, I mean, they'll still be good players with a little bit of practice.
On August 14 2015 22:26 EndingLife wrote: Is anyone on that list even active? Including game that is.
Probably not, I know Game has played a few games, though not much. Also, Jumper participated in TLC... It's worth it to try to reach out to them though, I mean, they'll still be good players with a little bit of practice.
I am totally ignored TT
No one has really taken ownership of team USA yet. You should try to check with the other people who've posted for team USA in this thread and see who will be the team leader.
I elect LRM)Game as team USA leader, we need as much pure merikah power as we can get, now when I say pure merikah power I mean raw dog shotgunning a case of beer while waving an merikuh flag proud with blood on yer face screaming merikah , merikah, because LRM)Game is the merikan hero
On August 15 2015 03:53 GGzerG wrote: I elect LRM)Game as team USA leader, we need as much pure merikah power as we can get, now when I say pure merikah power I mean raw dog shotgunning a case of beer while waving an merikuh flag proud with blood on yer face screaming merikah , merikah, because LRM)Game is the merikan hero
Game wanted me to post to indicate his interest in playing on your team, he wants xkcd to lead... He also wants you guys to reach out to all of the old USA players ~ I'm not sure exactly who he means exactly, I'm assuming Michael, flip, dredredre, Semih, Jumper... Though, you probably are already doing this.
Right! ^^ I can see team USA lining up as follows: 1v1 Scan Michael Someone else
On August 17 2015 03:11 EBPNationWars wrote: dsaqwe, you'll probably be merged with all of the other players in Europe with no team. Does anyone want to lead this team?
dsaqwe eonzerg zaraki
good all star team. you should took here also Madinho, and you will be prolly 100% winner team.
On August 15 2015 07:48 dRaW wrote: What time of the day are these going to be played?
The matches will be played at 17CET, however, we are currently considering the option of allowing American (Peru, USA, Canada) teams to postpone up to half of the Nation War by 2 hours.
On August 17 2015 03:11 EBPNationWars wrote: dsaqwe, you'll probably be merged with all of the other players in Europe with no team. Does anyone want to lead this team?
dsaqwe eonzerg zaraki
good all star team. you should took here also Madinho, and you will be prolly 100% winner team.
Are you saying that dsaqwe > Germany? Previously eonzerg + Zaraki + Germany was the team.
Primary ID: flying[eMg] Country: USA Best way to contact: PM teamliquid (i can give you my skype from there) Highest iCCup Rank: 1v1: B- (old system) B+ this season Highest Fish rank: 1500
i haven't read whole thread but seems like USA is lacking captain? I could be captain.
team USA members will be banned for spam in thread. Kappa
Team USA members will be warned for Twitch emotes in thread. :p
all i can see the roster for team usa is as below based on the current activity:
gayvian_su (favian_su)
gayro (sero)
telegayme (telecom)
mogaysty (modesty)
gaylying (flying) can be the leader
and can get scan if he is qualified to play.
There should be more USA players available than that. Someone already posted in the thread that LRM)Game was looking to play. Have you tried to contact any of the less active USA players? Jumper was active on TL not long ago when he signed up for TLC.
team USA members will be banned for spam in thread. Kappa
Team USA members will be warned for Twitch emotes in thread. :p
all i can see the roster for team usa is as below based on the current activity:
gayvian_su (favian_su)
gayro (sero)
telegayme (telecom)
mogaysty (modesty)
gaylying (flying) can be the leader
and can get scan if he is qualified to play.
There should be more USA players available than that. Someone already posted in the thread that LRM)Game was looking to play. Have you tried to contact any of the less active USA players? Jumper was active on TL not long ago when he signed up for TLC.
Have you checked with Lumix?
Also, Scan cannot participate in this event.
i dont think i am able to get them neither will i even if i can since i dont want to be the leader. i will just play if the team is established. also, seems no one wants to lead team china probably the players dont want to play. but if they do, i can be the translator for them if necessary.
team USA members will be banned for spam in thread. Kappa
Team USA members will be warned for Twitch emotes in thread. :p
all i can see the roster for team usa is as below based on the current activity:
gayvian_su (favian_su)
gayro (sero)
telegayme (telecom)
mogaysty (modesty)
gaylying (flying) can be the leader
and can get scan if he is qualified to play.
There should be more USA players available than that. Someone already posted in the thread that LRM)Game was looking to play. Have you tried to contact any of the less active USA players? Jumper was active on TL not long ago when he signed up for TLC.
Have you checked with Lumix?
Also, Scan cannot participate in this event.
i dont think i am able to get them neither will i even if i can since i dont want to be the leader. i will just play if the team is established. also, seems no one wants to lead team china probably the players dont want to play. but if they do, i can be the translator for them if necessary.
i don't think they are even aware of this event happening and if they are, they will have troubles understanding all the rules. If you, or somebody else reading this is interested in carrying the news to the chinese (which will be necessary) i can make contact for you with dingdang, the C-OSL Mastermind. He is probably the person to talk to. Pm me in that case.
team USA members will be banned for spam in thread. Kappa
Team USA members will be warned for Twitch emotes in thread. :p
all i can see the roster for team usa is as below based on the current activity:
gayvian_su (favian_su)
gayro (sero)
telegayme (telecom)
mogaysty (modesty)
gaylying (flying) can be the leader
and can get scan if he is qualified to play.
There should be more USA players available than that. Someone already posted in the thread that LRM)Game was looking to play. Have you tried to contact any of the less active USA players? Jumper was active on TL not long ago when he signed up for TLC.
Have you checked with Lumix?
Also, Scan cannot participate in this event.
i dont think i am able to get them neither will i even if i can since i dont want to be the leader. i will just play if the team is established. also, seems no one wants to lead team china probably the players dont want to play. but if they do, i can be the translator for them if necessary.
i don't think they are even aware of this event happening and if they are, they will have troubles understanding all the rules. If you, or somebody else reading this is interested in carrying the news to the chinese (which will be necessary) i can make contact for you with dingdang, the C-OSL Mastermind. He is probably the person to talk to. Pm me in that case.
It would be excellent if someone could relay this information, the most important thing that they need to know is that they won't necessarily get the match ups that they want and they might not be able to play the players that they want depending on lag. They should have enough players to field a roster that meets those requirements so that they can play without W.O, but it would be understandable if they don't want to because it will require people to show up for games that they may or may not get to play.
I've created a skype group using all the skype IDs given in this thread along with ones I already had for people I knew were interested in being a part of Team USA in some fashion. If you aren't yet in the "Nation Wars Team USA" group and you're interested in playing PM me your skype.
From modesty's list I'm missing modesty's and favian's skype.
team USA members will be banned for spam in thread. Kappa
Team USA members will be warned for Twitch emotes in thread. :p
all i can see the roster for team usa is as below based on the current activity:
gayvian_su (favian_su)
gayro (sero)
telegayme (telecom)
mogaysty (modesty)
gaylying (flying) can be the leader
and can get scan if he is qualified to play.
There should be more USA players available than that. Someone already posted in the thread that LRM)Game was looking to play. Have you tried to contact any of the less active USA players? Jumper was active on TL not long ago when he signed up for TLC.
Have you checked with Lumix?
Also, Scan cannot participate in this event.
i dont think i am able to get them neither will i even if i can since i dont want to be the leader. i will just play if the team is established. also, seems no one wants to lead team china probably the players dont want to play. but if they do, i can be the translator for them if necessary.
i don't think they are even aware of this event happening and if they are, they will have troubles understanding all the rules. If you, or somebody else reading this is interested in carrying the news to the chinese (which will be necessary) i can make contact for you with dingdang, the C-OSL Mastermind. He is probably the person to talk to. Pm me in that case.
It would be excellent if someone could relay this information, ....
I think your best bet is to try and reach out to some of the people who have been translating Chinese events here in the past and see if anyone is up for helping with that. Many great opportunities are missed simply because someone said 'it would be nice if someone did this' instead of 'yo xyz, you think you can help us with this?' Just an observation from how tl staff usually works.
i would lead cosmopolitan team of nationless ronins like eon, zaraki, dsaqwe to promote cultural diversity, tolerance, free thinking, mingling of races and wholesale genocide of all other national teams
team USA members will be banned for spam in thread. Kappa
Team USA members will be warned for Twitch emotes in thread. :p
all i can see the roster for team usa is as below based on the current activity:
gayvian_su (favian_su)
gayro (sero)
telegayme (telecom)
mogaysty (modesty)
gaylying (flying) can be the leader
and can get scan if he is qualified to play.
There should be more USA players available than that. Someone already posted in the thread that LRM)Game was looking to play. Have you tried to contact any of the less active USA players? Jumper was active on TL not long ago when he signed up for TLC.
Have you checked with Lumix?
Also, Scan cannot participate in this event.
i dont think i am able to get them neither will i even if i can since i dont want to be the leader. i will just play if the team is established. also, seems no one wants to lead team china probably the players dont want to play. but if they do, i can be the translator for them if necessary.
i don't think they are even aware of this event happening and if they are, they will have troubles understanding all the rules. If you, or somebody else reading this is interested in carrying the news to the chinese (which will be necessary) i can make contact for you with dingdang, the C-OSL Mastermind. He is probably the person to talk to. Pm me in that case.
It would be excellent if someone could relay this information, ....
I think your best bet is to try and reach out to some of the people who have been translating Chinese events here in the past and see if anyone is up for helping with that. Many great opportunities are missed simply because someone said 'it would be nice if someone did this' instead of 'yo xyz, you think you can help us with this?' Just an observation from how tl staff usually works.
Checked with some known contributors, Do you happen to have any suggestions of who can do this? We are waiting for replies.
On August 20 2015 19:39 skzlime wrote: i would lead cosmopolitan team of nationless ronins like eon, zaraki, dsaqwe to promote cultural diversity, tolerance, free thinking, mingling of races and wholesale genocide of all other national teams
10 More days for the rosters. Does anyone think they need more time and/or help? (the latter is more likely). Please post here if you are having difficulty organizing your roster. All team leaders please PM skype contacts to facilitate communication on game days.
This event currently needs casters in several languages, if you want to be a regular caster and/or a co-caster, please post here and post which language your cast will be in, the banners and replays will be provided by the organization.
If merging specific countries don't work out, seeing something like USA, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, and South America would be pretty cool. It'd be like the World War except without Japan and several other countries that had nothing to do with the World War.
We going for balance or numbers? Some of these European countries that are merging seem to have too much potential as the only active players looking to compete in these events seem to be good ones. Maybe split them into two teams and grab mid skill players who are looking to improve.
On August 24 2015 04:35 vOdToasT wrote: There are not enough players for each nordic country to have its own team. Can I add Finnish users to my team?
I have to agree with Draw on this one, could you please send in your roster so that we can review it together? It seems like there is already quite a bit of activity in Sweden.
On August 24 2015 00:09 pebble444 wrote: Who' s team will i be on?
Maybe check with dsaqwe, eonzerg and zaraki if you can join them. That would be the team you need to be on, however, C- is a little low for this type of event.
Edit: The other option would be to find enough active players from your country to play.
Sign-Ups are due by Sunday, please submit your rosters
Sign ups in the thread ~ You have not been forgotten, we are waiting to see exactly what the rosters look like before figuring out what to do with you!
On August 24 2015 04:35 vOdToasT wrote: There are not enough players for each nordic country to have its own team. Can I add Finnish users to my team?
I have to agree with Draw on this one, could you please send in your roster so that we can review it together? It seems like there is already quite a bit of activity in Sweden.
My roster isn't final, because I am still trying to collect players. I want to have a lot of reserves, in case of no shows. I'll send a PM with the line up that I have so far (which I am still working on)
"A walk over may be avoided in a NON-ELIMINATION match if both teams agree to try with another player.
If both teams attempt with another player, the walk over cannot be claimed again until all of the back ups have been cycled."
Can you elaborate on what is meant by "non-elimination match." Why couldn't this option be avabilable in any situation?
"Temporary Stand-ins Temporary stand-in are permitted and will be allowed for all Nation Wars games, a temporary stand-in must meet the following requirements:
The stand-in is present on the list of the Nation’s back up team
The stand-in is not playing for any nation within the same pool as the team which he is standing in for.
If the stand-in is part of another team in a different pool, he can only be used during the first round of the round robin."
Why would any player be allowed to stand in for one country if he's already participating for another country? Even if it's only for 1 match.
"All games must be played on Fish Server using Mini or mca Launcher."
Any exceptions to this? Why Mini Launcher? For example, could Chaos be used rather than Mini?
"A walk over may be avoided in a NON-ELIMINATION match if both teams agree to try with another player.
If both teams attempt with another player, the walk over cannot be claimed again until all of the back ups have been cycled."
Can you elaborate on what is meant by "non-elimination match." Why couldn't this option be avabilable in any situation?
"Temporary Stand-ins Temporary stand-in are permitted and will be allowed for all Nation Wars games, a temporary stand-in must meet the following requirements:
The stand-in is present on the list of the Nation’s back up team
The stand-in is not playing for any nation within the same pool as the team which he is standing in for.
If the stand-in is part of another team in a different pool, he can only be used during the first round of the round robin."
Why would any player be allowed to stand in for one country if he's already participating for another country? Even if it's only for 1 match.
"All games must be played on Fish Server using Mini or mca Launcher."
Any exceptions to this? Why Mini Launcher? For example, could Chaos be used rather than Mini?
The stand-in rules need revision, you should have a response by Wednesday in regards to this.
i don't remember how to edit, so: Primary ID: LRM)SpaNiarD Country: Spain Best way to contact: you know how Highest iCCup Rank: B- Highest Fish rank: don't remember
On August 25 2015 05:23 dRaW wrote: Captain(s): Draw/Dragon Players: LD Munkie Castle Rlentless
I am still looking for players...
Wow! where's the legend WandS, cute[pain], Assault[pain], Bibiane, Bizzy ?!! find them !!!!!!!
WandS no clue... I haven't seen him since last TLS, Bizzy same deal. Bibiane left a long time ago for school and I don't think he plays BW anymore. Cute does not want to participate and Assault is unreliable to show up.
7 maps are presented per week, the participating teams must each select 1 map to veto, that map will be removed from the pool for this week, it will not be the first map of any set and cannot be selected by any player for that Nation War. Teams cannot veto a map that isn't listed in the starting maps for that week however, teams may opt to not veto a map.
are the 2 vetoed maps also discluded from the loser pick as well?
Why does Europe get to form "super teams" ? I understand they have lack of players for their respective countries, but instead of merging all the loners into one squad, they should be dispersed into OTHER countries...
i will take care of The Europe Fusion team: Coach :eOnzErG players: Zaraki Dsaqwe Sacred
Spaniard and Catspaw i will like to see these two players training a bit harder, Also expecting Nizzy to be part of our 2v2 squad
Players i will like to be part of us, Madinho and some players of France Kenzy Freman Elena
So if you arent from Poland/GER/Swe plz contact me here in teamliquid or skype joseluis_cuban15 . i will be hosting a tournament to gave oportunity a less skilled players to be part of the nation taking the first place and base in the skill i see the second and third will be maybe part of us.
and last i need extra time to fix all this mess plz .
On August 25 2015 16:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i will take care of The Europe Fusion team: Coach :eOnzErG players: Zaraki Dsaqwe Sacred
Spaniard and Catspaw i will like to see these two players training a bit harder, Also expecting Nizzy to be part of our 2v2 squad
Players i will like to be part of us, Madinho and some players of France Kenzy Freman Elena
So if you arent from Poland/GER/Swe plz contact me here in teamliquid or skype joseluis_cuban15 . i will be hosting a tournament to gave oportunity a less skilled players to be part of the nation taking the first place and base in the skill i see the second and third will be maybe part of us.
and last i need extra time to fix all this mess plz .
HYPE HYPE!
So you want to pick up the top players regardless of their region? This is getting out of hand. If anything those 2 players bolded should be part of Sweden since they are Scandanavian.
Seriously, why even call this a "Nation War" if this is how teams will be formed?
On August 25 2015 16:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i will take care of The Europe Fusion team: Coach :eOnzErG players: Zaraki Dsaqwe Sacred
Spaniard and Catspaw i will like to see these two players training a bit harder, Also expecting Nizzy to be part of our 2v2 squad
Players i will like to be part of us, Madinho and some players of France Kenzy Freman Elena
So if you arent from Poland/GER/Swe plz contact me here in teamliquid or skype joseluis_cuban15 . i will be hosting a tournament to gave oportunity a less skilled players to be part of the nation taking the first place and base in the skill i see the second and third will be maybe part of us.
and last i need extra time to fix all this mess plz .
HYPE HYPE!
So you want to pick up the top players regardless of their region? This is getting out of hand. If anything those 2 players bolded should be part of Sweden since they are Scandanavian.
Seriously, why even call this a "Nation War" if this is how teams will be formed?
you need to out your head under the pillow and watch what we have here.Sweden doesnt need players out of their country,their activity is great,the rest of countries have somewhat 1 player x .
It is necessary to have a merged team in Europe, and, no... it won't be formed of "just anyone". Sweden will definitely get to pick standin from Scandinavia before any other team has access to those players.
At this stage, given there are 4 Spanish players and Hungary is not active enough, but still a big question mark... (sziky) it seems best that for now the team be a Spain - Hungary alliance. Dsaqwe and Zaraki are basically Hungarian anyway :sas:
That team would now have 8 players:
Non Vorti eonzerg Zaraki Spaniards Cats paw Sacred dsaqwe
Is that good for everyone on that roster? We will check for another stand in if you don't think you can make it work, but there should be a few more Hungarian players around which you can search for.
7 maps are presented per week, the participating teams must each select 1 map to veto, that map will be removed from the pool for this week, it will not be the first map of any set and cannot be selected by any player for that Nation War. Teams cannot veto a map that isn't listed in the starting maps for that week however, teams may opt to not veto a map.
are the 2 vetoed maps also discluded from the loser pick as well?
On August 25 2015 14:37 ProtossGG wrote: Why does Europe get to form "super teams" ? I understand they have lack of players for their respective countries, but instead of merging all the loners into one squad, they should be dispersed into OTHER countries...
Just a thought/opinion.
They won't be forming a super team. They will however be forming a team which can be competitive. The event is intended to encourage activity, disqualifying these players doesn't seem like the way to do that.
On August 25 2015 16:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i will take care of The Europe Fusion team: Coach :eOnzErG players: Zaraki Dsaqwe Sacred
Spaniard and Catspaw i will like to see these two players training a bit harder, Also expecting Nizzy to be part of our 2v2 squad
Players i will like to be part of us, Madinho and some players of France Kenzy Freman Elena
So if you arent from Poland/GER/Swe plz contact me here in teamliquid or skype joseluis_cuban15 . i will be hosting a tournament to gave oportunity a less skilled players to be part of the nation taking the first place and base in the skill i see the second and third will be maybe part of us.
and last i need extra time to fix all this mess plz .
HYPE HYPE!
So you want to pick up the top players regardless of their region? This is getting out of hand. If anything those 2 players bolded should be part of Sweden since they are Scandanavian.
Seriously, why even call this a "Nation War" if this is how teams will be formed?
you need to out your head under the pillow and watch what we have here.Sweden doesnt need players out of their country,their activity is great,the rest of countries have somewhat 1 player x .
Eonzerg, I think telling flying to get his head out under the pillow wasn't a necessary comment. It implies that you think he is oblivious or ignorant to the situation. It isn't a necessary thing to say to explain your reasoning behind why you wanted certain players for your team and it may come off as an insult. If that's not what you meant by telling flying to take his head out under the pillow please correct my misunderstanding.
Also, you picked the best players from Sweden and there are other nations beside Sweden like Poland and Germany who also have large lists. It's fine as long as you have a balanced roster just because other nations may not compare as well. Picking the best players from the Sweden roster instead of the other worse players does feel like you are selectively picking the better ones and not because of mere coincidence. It feels like you pick the better players so the Europe Fusion Team has a better chance of winning but balance is important too so everyone gets a chance to play. I guess in the end it's going to be the administration's call on the matter. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
can you re-read my post plz ?.and re-read what you wrote ?
On August 25 2015 21:23 EBPNationWars wrote: It is necessary to have a merged team in Europe, and, no... it won't be formed of "just anyone". Sweden will definitely get to pick standin from Scandinavia before any other team has access to those players.
At this stage, given there are 4 Spanish players and Hungary is not active enough, but still a big question mark... (sziky) it seems best that for now the team be a Spain - Hungary alliance. Dsaqwe and Zaraki are basically Hungarian anyway :sas:
That team would now have 7 players:
Non Vorti eonzerg Zaraki Spaniards Cats paw Sacred
Is that good for everyone on that roster? We will check for another stand in if you don't think you can make it work, but there should be a few more Hungarian players around which you can search for.
i think Hungary should be abble to bring a good team,like russia,but everyone being lazy atm ? ;
On August 25 2015 21:23 EBPNationWars wrote: It is necessary to have a merged team in Europe, and, no... it won't be formed of "just anyone". Sweden will definitely get to pick standin from Scandinavia before any other team has access to those players.
At this stage, given there are 4 Spanish players and Hungary is not active enough, but still a big question mark... (sziky) it seems best that for now the team be a Spain - Hungary alliance. Dsaqwe and Zaraki are basically Hungarian anyway :sas:
That team would now have 7 players:
Non Vorti eonzerg Zaraki Spaniards Cats paw Sacred
Is that good for everyone on that roster? We will check for another stand in if you don't think you can make it work, but there should be a few more Hungarian players around which you can search for.
i think Hungary should be abble to bring a good team,like russia,but everyone being lazy atm ? ;
anyway i will agree that if our team count with sziky this team will be no fair for the competition. as long as france and some other nations players join us we should be fine,the team i posted is a bit tricky,since catspaw Spaniard arent very active players and most of the time they were /are active in the 2v2 ladder,i will like to count atleast with active people for nationwars.
On August 26 2015 00:02 GGzerG wrote: The amount of team rigging / everyone scrambling to get the top EU players is kind of silly and unprofessional...kind of discouraging.
trust me i will be the first to protest for imbalance team,but in the past we were part of germany and no one protest ?,now germany kicked us and want to be a pure team,if you think dsaqwe zaraki eonzerg is the most imbalance you ever see,then look at poland team ,i not want to offend my comrades but right now they arent even c+ lvl to fight in a nationwar,even in their prime they were like B- ,so yeah,just look how i already said sziky will be to much for our team -.-
Sweden/Poland/Germany got very good players for 2v2,since Sweden is packed i thought nizzy will help us alot for 2v2 but looks like Sweden has still preference.
I am still waiting for Russia to register and field a solid team. LancerX, Tama, Malkiyah, Funny, Bylat, Werdi, Sea, TokyoA, Flisk and more... would be a good team :D
On August 26 2015 00:02 GGzerG wrote: The amount of team rigging / everyone scrambling to get the top EU players is kind of silly and unprofessional...kind of discouraging.
trust me i will be the first to protest for imbalance team,but in the past we were part of germany and no one protest ?,now germany kicked us and want to be a pure team
We didn't kick anyone. So far we organized a team to play fun wars and only now entered the event. Honestly, I don't think anyone on our roster cares much for wins or not, as long as we can have fun. This being said, I think you should encourage event the lowest ranked players of your nation (and maybe neighbours) to participate. I don't think anyone can really expect to win this event with Poland showing such a skillful roster. And even if, what would you do with all that money?
Think about the money part for a second. You would get too famous in your country. You are then expected to do something great with the 400$ - like donating it to fund a new wing at the national galery. Or create a trust fund for orphaned kids. Or solve the refugee crisis. You will most likely be overwhelmed by what society puts on your shoulders - and starting to do drugs. Heroine incoming. Sure, you might marry the most beautiful woman, maybe get a kid or two, but you will constantly be under pressure. Are you sure you can take that? All the money and the fame? And even if you could, do you think the other members you share the gigantonormous prizes with could handle it? Do you want the truth?You can't handle the truth!.
Eon, we live in a world that has enormous prize pools, and this money has to be sniped by Polish Zerg with godlike APM. Who's gonna do it? You? You Captain Fearthequeen? Poland has a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Fusion Europe, and you curse them Zerg. You haven't got the luxury. You have the benefit of not knowing what the Polish know. That a denial of the fusion of Spain, France, UK and Germany, while tragic, probably safes lives. And the existence of Poland, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want Poland in that event, you need Poland in that event. Poland uses words like Zerg dominance, Sauron, 9 Pool. Poland uses these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. Poland neither has the time nor the inclination to explain itself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that they provide, and then questions the manner in which THE ORGANIZATION (INC) provides it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up team mates, and stand a post. Either way, THE ORGANIZATION (INC) doesn't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
We can remove the prizepool and i will still do the same,but still im a competitive guy,im not hating poland or other nations are in a good shape,im just realistic that to be somewhat competitive we cant really stay with spain,actually now i saw eywa removed dsaqwer from us,he was suposed to be playing with us since the begin,same with contacting nizzy etc,plz tell me if at the end im doing efforts in vane eywa
On August 26 2015 01:01 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: We can remove the prizepool and i will still do the same,but still im a competitive guy,im not hating poland or other nations are in a good shape,im just realistic that to be somewhat competitive we cant really stay with spain,actually now i saw eywa removed dsaqwer from us,he was suposed to be playing with us since the begin,same with contacting nizzy etc,plz tell me if at the end im doing efforts in vane eywa
i think Bulgary and Hungary should merge .
I know, it was meant in jest. The organization part was part of my initial questions, e.g. about who can merge with whom. I don't consider that to be your fault, it should've been written somewhere carefully. I could imagine a strong 'western EU' team with you, zaraki, FremAN, glio, Pauline and KenZy - plus maybe GB with poetic and Sacred. I mean I get what "the organization" of this event tried to achieve and I'm kinda behind it. It'd be best for foreigners to try to feature the second class - those with high C+ and lower B ranks, regardless of how they'll perform later on. Get them to play, maybe we'll be surprised, who knows. The money isn't worth to really go competitive and wall-of-text (hi featherqueen :D) style. For now I really got some fun out of the national team stuff, I hope it'll remain this way.
On August 26 2015 01:01 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: We can remove the prizepool and i will still do the same,but still im a competitive guy,im not hating poland or other nations are in a good shape,im just realistic that to be somewhat competitive we cant really stay with spain,actually now i saw eywa removed dsaqwer from us,he was suposed to be playing with us since the begin,same with contacting nizzy etc,plz tell me if at the end im doing efforts in vane eywa
i think Bulgary and Hungary should merge .
dsaqwe was never intentionally excluded from your roster. He was just forgotten in the post (not even the whole post because he is mentioned just above...) I'm not sure Bulgaria/Hungary is a better merge, but your decision will be respected to go with England/France + surrounding countries. For Nizzy, it won't work unless Sweden doesn't take him.
It looks like Hungary won't participate in the tournament due to lack of players, so maybe non/vorti can make a team with other players from eastern/central europe. Everyone needs to understand that the borders for nations that can't form teams will be a little bit blurred just to make the event more accessible and enjoyable for everyone... It won't be the majority, only one or two teams will be made in this way.
On August 26 2015 01:01 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: We can remove the prizepool and i will still do the same,but still im a competitive guy,im not hating poland or other nations are in a good shape,im just realistic that to be somewhat competitive we cant really stay with spain,actually now i saw eywa removed dsaqwer from us,he was suposed to be playing with us since the begin,same with contacting nizzy etc,plz tell me if at the end im doing efforts in vane eywa
i think Bulgary and Hungary should merge .
dsaqwe was never intentionally excluded from your roster. He was just forgotten in the post (not even the whole post because he is mentioned just above...) I'm not sure Bulgaria/Hungary is a better merge, but your decision will be respected to go with England/France + surrounding countries. For Nizzy, it won't work unless Sweden doesn't take him.
It looks like Hungary won't participate in the tournament due to lack of players, so maybe non/vorti can make a team with other players from eastern/central europe. Everyone needs to understand that the borders for nations that can't form teams will be a little bit blurred just to make the event more accessible and enjoyable for everyone... It won't be the majority, only one or two teams will be made in this way.
Bulgaria /Hungary could be a good match since i saw zergboy and others good bulgarian players in, + noname vorti and there is another top hungarian players active atm,also sziky will be back after summer.
the main reason i not want hungary is cuz then we really will have imba team with sziky -.-
Is merging Canada/USA on the table? While we are quite big geographically our active high level player pool is relatively small (Sero, Dragon... maybe a couple others if they practice up in the next few weeks) Also, teams like [PaiN] [eMg] and iNs. (where most of USA/Canada's rosters are from) are each made up of both Americans and Canadians, and these clans play together regularly and know each other already. It makes more sense for us to be playing together than competing against each other.
My biggest concern is that each of our current rosters is under 10 as well (and will continue to be unless some inactives start showing interest), so the chance of walkovers is going to be much higher without a merge. I'd rather not field a team that has a chance to be handing out walkovers.
I guess we'll see who else we can add to the roster this week.
On August 25 2015 14:37 ProtossGG wrote: Why does Europe get to form "super teams" ? I understand they have lack of players for their respective countries, but instead of merging all the loners into one squad, they should be dispersed into OTHER countries...
Just a thought/opinion.
They won't be forming a super team. They will however be forming a team which can be competitive. The event is intended to encourage activity, disqualifying these players doesn't seem like the way to do that.
I'm not saying to disqualify anyone... I want everyone to be in it. More the merrier.
I am simply saying instead of having all these loners form one team under eonzerg, why wouldn't they each be dispersed into other countries?
(e.g. Dsaqwe to Spain, Zaraki to Hungary, etc etc <-- Making it up). But you get the point, one loner gets placed randomly in another country. This way all the loners are not together.
**Also as for Poland looking extremely strong, I'm TOTALLY good and happy about that. They're all polish, they haven't drafted anyone outside the country. If people in Poland are just that good and they're all from poland, it is what it is. More power to Poland. Mentioning Poland in any of these discussions is irrelevant because they're all FROM Poland.
On August 25 2015 16:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i will take care of The Europe Fusion team: Coach :eOnzErG players: Zaraki Dsaqwe Sacred
Spaniard and Catspaw i will like to see these two players training a bit harder, Also expecting Nizzy to be part of our 2v2 squad
Players i will like to be part of us, Madinho and some players of France Kenzy Freman Elena
So if you arent from Poland/GER/Swe plz contact me here in teamliquid or skype joseluis_cuban15 . i will be hosting a tournament to gave oportunity a less skilled players to be part of the nation taking the first place and base in the skill i see the second and third will be maybe part of us.
and last i need extra time to fix all this mess plz .
HYPE HYPE!
So you want to pick up the top players regardless of their region? This is getting out of hand. If anything those 2 players bolded should be part of Sweden since they are Scandanavian.
Seriously, why even call this a "Nation War" if this is how teams will be formed?
you need to out your head under the pillow and watch what we have here.Sweden doesnt need players out of their country,their activity is great,the rest of countries have somewhat 1 player x .
Eonzerg, I think telling flying to get his head out under the pillow wasn't a necessary comment. It implies that you think he is oblivious or ignorant to the situation. It isn't a necessary thing to say to explain your reasoning behind why you wanted certain players for your team and it may come off as an insult. If that's not what you meant by telling flying to take his head out under the pillow please correct my misunderstanding.
Also, you picked the best players from Sweden and there are other nations beside Sweden like Poland and Germany who also have large lists. It's fine as long as you have a balanced roster just because other nations may not compare as well. Picking the best players from the Sweden roster instead of the other worse players does feel like you are selectively picking the better ones and not because of mere coincidence. It feels like you pick the better players so the Europe Fusion Team has a better chance of winning but balance is important too so everyone gets a chance to play. I guess in the end it's going to be the administration's call on the matter. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
can you re-read my post plz ?.and re-read what you wrote ?
im not trying to steal sweden players,what are you talking about ?,im not picking best players of every nation to make our own team..Sweden as i see it doesnt need to go for findland croatia players,norway,im no trying to make a imba team to rape everyone just trying to make one active nation to play the events and at the same time be competitive like the rest .if not i will just ally with Hungary and you will have to face Sziky Zaraki and eOnzErG Noname and i will put this Skzlime again to train and play so yeah.. in the same team .
Half my roster is below B- from the old system, I think merging countries should have the same luxury. Give the inexperienced players a chance to compete vs top active gamers. I don't want to merge with another country for the same reason. Competition is important but we could have easily just made clans and done that instead if we were trying to stack teams.
On August 26 2015 04:35 dRaW wrote: Half my roster is below B- from the old system, I think merging countries should have the same luxury. Give the inexperienced players a chance to compete vs top active gamers. I don't want to merge with another country for the same reason. Competition is important but we could have easily just made clans and done that instead if we were trying to stack teams.
This is a very good point and I think eonzerg is trying to accomplish this as much as he can. It will be interesting to see what that roster turns out to be, but it shouldn't be too far off from what Canada/USA have to work with.
See you guys are missing a major point. This is nation war not a clan war meaning there is no goal to create balanced teams. The goal here is to compare the overall strength of the participating nations to determine the best one. Ofc some countries are going to be super imba compared to the others but so what? Does FIFA allow the team of Zambia to have Brazilian stand ins in order for Zambia to be competitive enough to win the world cup?
Lets take Spain for example. Eon says there aren't enough active player but you can see on iccup there are plenty of active spaniards. They are not A+ or olympic and if team Spain is formed only by Spaniards it wont stand a chance against swe,rus,pol,ger but thats part of the very psychology behind the nation wars. There are always favourites and underdogs. There is no balance until the later stages of the tournament and thats the way it should be.
And last but not least - the creating of those super teams leads to a situation where the mid level players can't play in the event because the team captain will not allow it since he have gosu stand ins.
Btw: ggnore13 best rank: C+ fish: no I want to join team Bulgaria.
On August 26 2015 05:20 ggnore13 wrote: See you guys are missing a major point. This is nation war not a clan war meaning there is no goal to create balanced teams. The goal here is to compare the overall strength of the participating nations to determine the best one. Ofc some countries are going to be super imba compared to the others but so what? Does FIFA allow the team of Zambia to have Brazilian stand ins in order for Zambia to be competitive enough to win the world cup?
Lets take Spain for example. Eon says there aren't enough active player but you can see on iccup there are plenty of active spaniards. They are not A+ or olympic and if team Spain is formed only by Spaniards it wont stand a chance against swe,rus,pol,ger but thats part of the very psychology behind the nation wars. There are always favourites and underdogs. There is no balance until the later stages of the tournament and thats the way it should be.
And last but not least - the creating of those super teams leads to a situation where the mid level players can't play in the event because the team captain will not allow it since he have gosu stand ins.
Btw: ggnore13 best rank: C+ fish: no I want to join team Bulgaria.
it happens most of them are all smurf from Peru -.-
On August 26 2015 00:02 GGzerG wrote: The amount of team rigging / everyone scrambling to get the top EU players is kind of silly and unprofessional...kind of discouraging.
I'm not trying to get any one outside of the nordic countries
On August 26 2015 05:20 ggnore13 wrote: See you guys are missing a major point. This is nation war not a clan war meaning there is no goal to create balanced teams. The goal here is to compare the overall strength of the participating nations to determine the best one. Ofc some countries are going to be super imba compared to the others but so what? Does FIFA allow the team of Zambia to have Brazilian stand ins in order for Zambia to be competitive enough to win the world cup?
Lets take Spain for example. Eon says there aren't enough active player but you can see on iccup there are plenty of active spaniards. They are not A+ or olympic and if team Spain is formed only by Spaniards it wont stand a chance against swe,rus,pol,ger but thats part of the very psychology behind the nation wars. There are always favourites and underdogs. There is no balance until the later stages of the tournament and thats the way it should be.
And last but not least - the creating of those super teams leads to a situation where the mid level players can't play in the event because the team captain will not allow it since he have gosu stand ins.
Btw: ggnore13 best rank: C+ fish: no I want to join team Bulgaria.
ggnore where are you from? I am asking because probably i won't get enough Bulgarians to participate and we might merge with the EE region. Still though, nothing is certain.
wtf so many team/nation/player merge issues here? look at previous nation wars, those problems never happened.
NATION WAR ADMINS, AS THE ORGANIZER, IT IS UR JOB AND UR AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE THE PARTICIPATE COUNTRIES, AND WHAT COUNTRIES SHOULD BE MERGED TOGETHER. IF U GUYS DONT DO THIS. THE COMPLAIN OF THIS THREAD IS ENDLESS.
Primary ID: gagrush[bwd] Country: Canada Best way to contact: Pm on here. Highest iCCup Rank: B+ six years ago, maybe B if I practice for a month. Highest Fish rank: Never played.
On August 26 2015 06:18 yellowsmile wrote: wtf so many team/nation/player merge issues here? look at previous nation wars, those problems never happened.
NATION WAR ADMINS, AS THE ORGANIZER, IT IS UR JOB AND UR AUTHORITY TO DETERMINE THE PARTICIPATE COUNTRIES, AND WHAT COUNTRIES SHOULD BE MERGED TOGETHER. IF U GUYS DONT DO THIS. THE COMPLAIN OF THIS THREAD IS ENDLESS.
We are doing so, we just don't want to do so in a way that immediately establishes borders because that guarantees a wrong, before this event was announced who could accurately indicate 100% which countries can form a team?
The borders are currently blurred for one team and one team only ~ because they are from nations that can't possibly form a team. Everyone else is their own nation until indicated otherwise. This is currently being re-evaluated, with likely little to no change.
On August 26 2015 07:09 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: Primary ID: gagrush[bwd] Country: Canada Best way to contact: Pm on here. Highest iCCup Rank: B+ six years ago, maybe B if I practice for a month. Highest Fish rank: Never played.
First of all good job organizing the event, I was planning to replace the ICC ClanLeague with the old NationalLeague, but I found many issues and needed a test. This Nation Wars occurred apropos for that.
Can I ask why is it taking place on Fish instead of iCCup since no Korea team allowed and China troubles?
On August 26 2015 22:02 iCCup.Face wrote: First of all good job organizing the event, I was planning to replace the ICC ClanLeague with the old NationalLeague, but I found many issues and needed a test. This Nation Wars occurred apropos for that.
Can I ask why is it taking place on Fish instead of iCCup since no Korea team allowed and China troubles?
This is a discussion that is better to have privately instead of in the thread. There is no objection to the event being held at iCCup and it is still a possibility, please send me your skype to discuss. At the time of the event's creation, holding the event on Fish was a necessity. Things are a little different now, we can discuss on skype.
On August 26 2015 22:02 iCCup.Face wrote: First of all good job organizing the event, I was planning to replace the ICC ClanLeague with the old NationalLeague, but I found many issues and needed a test. This Nation Wars occurred apropos for that.
Can I ask why is it taking place on Fish instead of iCCup since no Korea team allowed and China troubles?
This is a discussion that is better to have privately instead of in the thread. There is no objection to the event being held at iCCup and it is still a possibility, please send me your skype to discuss. At the time of the event's creation, holding the event on Fish was a necessity. Things are a little different now, we can discuss on skype.
Lol.. everybody knows the reason, but ok have a private skype discussion :D
i would welcome the Chance to play on ICC, from a team leader and ICC admin perspective though. Let's make it happen!
On August 26 2015 00:18 awerti wrote: I am still waiting for Russia to register and field a solid team. LancerX, Tama, Malkiyah, Funny, Bylat, Werdi, Sea, TokyoA, Flisk and more... would be a good team :D
Sea is from the Ukraine (No one has recognized Crimea as a part of Russia), Werdi is from Kazakhstan.. So it's more like the CIS team
On August 26 2015 00:18 awerti wrote: I am still waiting for Russia to register and field a solid team. LancerX, Tama, Malkiyah, Funny, Bylat, Werdi, Sea, TokyoA, Flisk and more... would be a good team :D
Sea is from the Ukraine (No one has recognized Crimea as a part of Russia), Werdi is from Kazakhstan.. So it's more like the CIS team
we could also call it the "defiler.ru team of countries who have been historically influenced by russian culture" or something, that's true (;
But if players like werdi are okay with playing for a "russian" team so let them. Other players who don't want to play for that team ( like Marwin, i believe?) can and do play for other teams, he plays for Sweden atm. So i don't see a problem, Sea and Werdi can choose if the want to play for russia or not.
The issue is, that many smaller countries close to russia will likely not be able to field a team of their own and thus the players have little choice. But in this case, i think the TO will allow to join a european merged team perhaps?
seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
there is only one team doing it so far and is mine,look my team right now zaraki dsaqwe sacred spaniard 1v1 player been inactive for a very loong time catspaw (2v2 player) no very active roia (2v2 player)
Coach:eOnzErG
and you are Chinese,interesting to see you are protesting here to be honest -.-
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
there is only one team doing it so far and is mine,look my team right now zaraki dsaqwe sacred spaniard 1v1 player been inactive for a very loong time catspaw (2v2 player) no very active roia (2v2 player)
Coach:eOnzErG
and you are Chinese,interesting to see you are protesting here to be honest -.-
i am not protesting. i am sharing my thoughts.. and it has nothing to do with my nationality though i am u.s. citizen. nation war is a good event as world cup. but i dont like the merge countries idea. this is getting shits happening as we see in the thread.
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
I don't agree with you. I strongly disagree. This is not football and this is not FIFA. Calll it wathever you want, because merged teams have been a reality in all the past NW. If your country has plenty of players thats good for you. The rest of the world who doesn't have that luck should just sit and blame his country for not having enough players. Who have helped you to reach that conclusion?
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
There is only one merged team, other teams currently do not have that option. The Organization's stance on what the teams are has been clearly laid out. The organization has made interventions where interventions have been required (such as the Nizzy situation). Else, we haven't maintained a watch on the events while giving the team leaders the freedom to organize themselves.
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
I don't agree with you. I strongly disagree. This is not football and this is not FIFA. Calll it wathever you want, because merged teams have been a reality in all the past NW. If your country has plenty of players thats good for you. The rest of the world who doesn't have that luck should just sit and blame his country for not having enough players. Who have helped you to reach that conclusion?
as spain for example, i dont think you can not get at least 5 spanish players to play (check icc players with spain tag), or you just dont want to? personally i dont like the merge idea but i respect the admins decision. and even if a merge has to be done, it should be done by admins instead of participating parties.
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
there is only one team doing it so far and is mine,look my team right now zaraki dsaqwe sacred spaniard 1v1 player been inactive for a very loong time catspaw (2v2 player) no very active roia (2v2 player)
Coach:eOnzErG
and you are Chinese,interesting to see you are protesting here to be honest -.-
i am not protesting. i am sharing my thoughts.. and it has nothing to do with my nationality though i am u.s. citizen. nation war is a good event as world cup. but i dont like the merge countries idea. this is getting shits happening as we see in the thread.
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
I don't agree with you. I strongly disagree. This is not football and this is not FIFA. Calll it wathever you want, because merged teams have been a reality in all the past NW. If your country has plenty of players thats good for you. The rest of the world who doesn't have that luck should just sit and blame his country for not having enough players. Who have helped you to reach that conclusion?
as spain for example, i dont think you can not get at least 5 spanish players to play (check icc players with spain tag), or you just dont want to? personally i dont like the merge idea but i respect the admins decision. and even if a merge has to be done, it should be done by admins instead of participating parties.
We appreciate the input and we have taken it into consideration, however, the decision to have a merged team remains in order to promote additional activity. It's not an ideal scenario, but we judge it to be a necessary scenario.
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
there is only one team doing it so far and is mine,look my team right now zaraki dsaqwe sacred spaniard 1v1 player been inactive for a very loong time catspaw (2v2 player) no very active roia (2v2 player)
Coach:eOnzErG
and you are Chinese,interesting to see you are protesting here to be honest -.-
i am not protesting. i am sharing my thoughts.. and it has nothing to do with my nationality though i am u.s. citizen. nation war is a good event as world cup. but i dont like the merge countries idea. this is getting shits happening as we see in the thread.
this list has something to do with this ? no hypocrisy plz
and the organization asked me what i need to form my team,im no recruiting cuz i decided it.
right because previous nation wars even had the merge situation, all the regions were done by the admins. eon/zaraki, as i said i personally dont like the merge idea but it is a bw event and i respect/support this kinda event. i am not aiming you guys about forming your own teams. I just dont get why admins not separate the regions themselves before making the nation war announcement to make this simple and clear.
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
there is only one team doing it so far and is mine,look my team right now zaraki dsaqwe sacred spaniard 1v1 player been inactive for a very loong time catspaw (2v2 player) no very active roia (2v2 player)
Coach:eOnzErG
and you are Chinese,interesting to see you are protesting here to be honest -.-
i am not protesting. i am sharing my thoughts.. and it has nothing to do with my nationality though i am u.s. citizen. nation war is a good event as world cup. but i dont like the merge countries idea. this is getting shits happening as we see in the thread.
this list has something to do with this ? no hypocrisy plz
and the organization asked me what i need to form my team,im no recruiting cuz i decided it.
The difference is that the previous event already told you before from which countries you could pick. However, on page one questions about that topic were not wanted "by the organization" "as it isn't particularly inspiring and doesn't contribute to anything positive".
On August 26 2015 00:18 awerti wrote: I am still waiting for Russia to register and field a solid team. LancerX, Tama, Malkiyah, Funny, Bylat, Werdi, Sea, TokyoA, Flisk and more... would be a good team :D
Sea is from the Ukraine (No one has recognized Crimea as a part of Russia), Werdi is from Kazakhstan.. So it's more like the CIS team
I'm sorry. I was looking at Iccup 1v1 ranking for Russia and Werdi and Sea appeared there, so I assumed them to be Russian. My bad.
We cant find more than 4 players, as you can see in the list theres only 4 spanish players. The rest of the people in spain ladder are smurf accounts. We wouldnt be merging if we could field a team every week by ourselves. What are you trying to say? We don't want to have our own team because it would be a weak team? Because if you think like that you are wrong. But yea I understand that getting every loner player in one team is kind of unfair, but i think all has been cleared up now. Peace out
Back in time, only Poland Russia Hungary Bulgaria Chile Peru Germany USA and Canada could make a team without merging now i believe its only possible for Poland Russia Germany Peru until someone resurrect all these other people who we miss.
On August 27 2015 01:15 yellowsmile wrote: seriously, if admins just let the leaders pick players as they wish instead of making an official announcement for the determination of final merged countries. this is more than a clan war instead of a nation war. i saw a lot of post like " please add xxx to xxx team". u need to use the admin power to regulate things.
also, if this is still called a nation war, the purpose to getting as many as active players to participate is good. but you cant get all of them in fact. for those countries have not enough players to fill into a roster, no offense but sorry, it is your own problem, nothing to do with other countries. if Portugal loses in the world cup qualifier, do you think FIFA admins will let C Ronald to play for another country that qualified?
there is only one team doing it so far and is mine,look my team right now zaraki dsaqwe sacred spaniard 1v1 player been inactive for a very loong time catspaw (2v2 player) no very active roia (2v2 player)
Coach:eOnzErG
and you are Chinese,interesting to see you are protesting here to be honest -.-
i am not protesting. i am sharing my thoughts.. and it has nothing to do with my nationality though i am u.s. citizen. nation war is a good event as world cup. but i dont like the merge countries idea. this is getting shits happening as we see in the thread.
this list has something to do with this ? no hypocrisy plz
and the organization asked me what i need to form my team,im no recruiting cuz i decided it.
The difference is that the previous event already told you before from which countries you could pick. However, on page one questions about that topic were not wanted "by the organization" "as it isn't particularly inspiring and doesn't contribute to anything positive".
We answered all concerns concerning the topic and it seemed necessary for us to evaluate the current activity before establishing a blanket rule on merging. If teams join with the intent of merging before establishing activity and before trying to reach out to inactive members, it encourages an approach that goes against the spirit of the event from the get go.
On August 26 2015 07:09 ZZangDreamjOy wrote: Primary ID: gagrush[bwd] Country: Canada Best way to contact: Pm on here. Highest iCCup Rank: B+ six years ago, maybe B if I practice for a month. Highest Fish rank: Never played.
let' take a step back everybody, take a deep breath and evaluate the current Situation before we make a judgement on the issues at hand!
Back before the Starcraft 2 Beta started Broodwar was in a different place. We had a ton more users and naturally a ton more good foreigners. Heck we had so many players, Germany for instance ( i don't know enough about other countries) did have two national teams. But obviously, things are quite different today. An erosion of our player base and a decline in fan sites that focus on national scenes or scenes connected by culture and language has led to us to a different situation in all Nationwars since the Beta.
For the most case, countries were not able to present a roster of their own- merged teams are the result.
Now: for this event, a couple of countries seem to be able to field teams of their own, which is a good thing. Germany for instance has a couple of players, who don't participate in big tournaments but this one. That is probably true for a lot of the other teams too. And that's a good thing. It brings back activity to players who are not interested or active to compete at top tournaments.
By having a nationwar that focuses on the countries, we include a lot of players, that wouldn't play otherwise. Plus fans love Nationwars and rooting for their team.
See this event more as a fun event and worry less about your chance to win. For me personally, the success is that we are able to field a german team. I don't care too much about winning or loosing.
Play in this event with pride, be happy to have your National team, even if it isn't the strongest and don't worry to much about the merged teams.
@ the Organisation: despite my attempt for an inspirational speech, i think you need to set clear rules which teams can merge how to avoid further irritation among players and team captains (;
Let's face it, there are many countries that don't have enough players to make their own team. You can see national ladders on iCCup with plenty of people, but that does not mean that those players are from that certain nationality or are able/want to play in this kind of events. So merging countries is a must
Primary ID: Normal[uUc] Country: Hungary Best way to contact: e-mail / TLnet or Iccup PM Highest iCCup Rank: B- (A- this season) Highest Fish rank: none Best tournament placement (Optional):
I'm from Asia but I dont think we have enough Asians to join the event since Korean are banned and Chinese are't joining due to connection problem. But if they join eventually I am more than willing to be the translator for them.
Btw, hello yellosmile, I'm glad to see you are still active!
On August 27 2015 02:41 trutaCz wrote: Back in time, only Poland Russia Hungary Bulgaria Chile Peru Germany USA and Canada could make a team without merging now i believe its only possible for Poland Russia Germany Peru until someone resurrect all these other people who we miss.
Fearthequeen EndingLife Profile Blog PM Joined December 2002 United States549 Posts 17 hours ago #240 Primary ID: EndingLife Country: USA Best way to contact: PM@TL Highest iCCup Rank: 1v1: B+
also did you contacted flip dtking and plus (for the 2v2) ?
sure watching your list is not looking very strong t.. but you really need to contact the best players.also are you sure g5 doesnt wanna take part in ?
btw endinglife is proly better than all the players in the list you have above,why arent you taking him in consideration ?
On August 27 2015 15:53 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Fearthequeen EndingLife Profile Blog PM Joined December 2002 United States549 Posts 17 hours ago #240 Primary ID: EndingLife Country: USA Best way to contact: PM@TL Highest iCCup Rank: 1v1: B+
also did you contacted flip dtking and plus (for the 2v2) ?
sure watching your list is not looking very strong t.. but you really need to contact the best players.also are you sure g5 doesnt wanna take part in ?
btw endinglife is proly better than all the players in the list you have above,why arent you taking him in consideration ?
Thanks, I never saw EndingLife's post.
Other than that I've contacted everyone I had info for (skype or TL ID). g5, Jumper, Michael, Game, Plus have all been contacted, so yeah, it's not like I haven't tried to get good players... Either they are busy? or not interested? (though there's still some chance of some of those playing - Contact me!)
As for Flip, dtking I don't have any contact info for them. If you have their skype or anything feel free to PM me.
== Announcement == The nation wars event will take place on iccup, all currently banned players may send a request to Iccup.face to have the ban lifted, if said request fails, that player may play his games on fish. In the event that someone is banned from iccup while the league is ongoing, the player will be disciplined as stated in the event rules for a bm violation, this player may be banned for one or more nation wars depending on the severity of the offence. Upon the player's return, they may play their games on fish.
That USA list is..... yeah. -_- I'll see if anyone will come back to play some games. I'll be on tonight to play my first games in a while if anyone wants to practice. Op Teamliquid@Iccup.
On August 27 2015 22:06 EndingLife wrote: That USA list is..... yeah. -_- I'll see if anyone will come back to play some games. I'll be on tonight to play my first games in a while if anyone wants to practice. Op Teamliquid@Iccup.
I believe there are a few maybes for USA. So, there is still potential for that roster to be improved.
Primary ID: ValkyrieHero Country: Germany Best way to contact: e-mail / TLnet or Iccup PM Highest iCCup Rank:1x1 B- , 2x2(B this season) Highest Fish rank: none
On August 27 2015 23:13 scvs wrote: Primary ID: ValkyrieHero Country: Germany Best way to contact: e-mail / TLnet or Iccup PM Highest iCCup Rank:1x1 B- , 2x2(B this season) Highest Fish rank: none
contact me on skype. i did send you the acc details via PM
I got few questions (just to be sure, my bad if i missed something on OP) i wanted to ask the orga on skype but i think it could give infos to all by asking them here:
3) All games must be played on Fish Server using Mini or mca Launcher. I've been told playing on fish is no more recquired, could you update OP please if it's correct ?
4) - All players must use their primary ID along with their country tag in the following format: must[RU], G5[US] Can we go with just nG.Name ? since they are using there main aka and we all represent the same country (meaning nG.KenZy for exemple) and its all listed in my OP. May be quite lighter for players
7) All replays must be submitted to esport-bettingNW@gmail.com by the winning player, failure to do so will result in reversal of the match. Can we set for our team that the leaders gather the replays and send them in one package ? (i mean the full set at the end of the game day) Or if not, do players strictly have to send replay after EACH games ? (not after the full set so, but after each games). First option again may be quite lighter for players.
This one is more a lack of presence in the rules: Is there any statement about races ? Do we have to specificaly say our players race before event start ? Can they change if they want ? is Random allowed ? if so do they have to say the race at the start of the game ? (just asking to know what to say to the players)
On August 28 2015 05:59 Myujinsan wrote: I got few question (just to be sure, my bad if i missed something on OP) i wanted to ask the orga on skype but i think it could give infos to all by asking them here:
3) All games must be played on Fish Server using Mini or mca Launcher. I've been told playing on fish is no more recquired, could you update OP please if it's correct ?
7) All replays must be submitted to esport-bettingNW@gmail.com by the winning player, failure to do so will result in reversal of the match. Can we set for our team that the leaders gather the replays and send them in one package ? (i mean the full set at the end of the game day) Or if not, do players strictly have to send replay after EACH games ? (not after the full set so, but after each games). First option may be quite lighter for players.
This one is more a lack of presence in the rules: Is there any statement about races ? Do we have to specificaly say our players race before event start ? Can they change if they want ? is Random allowed ? if so do they have to say the race at the start of the game ? (just asking to know what to say to the players)
Will update the op as soon as I get home.
We need the winner of the set to send in all of the replays of the set. This includes the loss if it goes to 3. If a team leader wants to take on this role, there is no problem with it as long as they are submitted on time for the broadcast (to be determined)
On August 27 2015 22:06 EndingLife wrote: That USA list is..... yeah. -_-
Are you an AmeriCAN or an AmeriCANT ?
Let's be reasonable here. You see the USA roster compared to others. All B- and lower players. (Excluding 1 or 2 possible) Well, before this whole iccup rank change crap where C- max players can now get A-
On August 29 2015 21:45 EBPNationWars wrote: All of the lineups are updated in the OP... Where is Russia?
I took it into my hands, made a topic on defiler.ru about Nation Wars like a week ago, and have also mentioned it in the chat there. Many Russian players know about the tourney, making a team is up to them.
On August 29 2015 21:45 EBPNationWars wrote: All of the lineups are updated in the OP... Where is Russia?
I took it into my hands, made a topic on defiler.ru about Nation Wars like a week ago, and have also mentioned it in the chat there. Many Russian players know about the tourney, making a team is up to them.
It would be a shame if they didn't form a team... They would have one of the better teams in the event...
Any teams available for a preseason match with USA? Preferably Canada, Chile or Peru to minimize time zone differences. But any team is welcome I'm sure we can work out the times. Captains PM me please if you are interested so we can discuss details.
On August 31 2015 08:34 art_of_turtle wrote: Are there any rules considering race picking or random?
There are no rules in regards to player races. You're entitled to select whatever race you choose including random as long as your selection is clearly indicated before the countdown starts. The races in the thread just indicate a player's primary race selection.
Post format: Primary ID: Iwl-Bylat Country: Russia Best way to contact: vl.bylat skype Highest iCCup Rank: 1x1 A+ 2x2 A+ Highest Fish rank: E Best tournament placement (Optional): wcg2010 top5-8 Russia
btw to all Bulgarians who want to participate my skype is: williamwallacebg, also i will most likely need a co-leader, if anyone wants to step up let me know, because there is no telling what will happen in the future
PS if anyone wants to become the leader i'm open to that too
Will be a pretty onesided stomp tourney and then finals Poland vs Russia. hehe. Hopefully the grid will have layout so that Poland and Russia can only meet in finals.. if so --> epic finals!
Russia -> the rest. wow that lineup is sick. But then im quite fine with it, everybody knew russia was most likely going to be very dominant in this event.
i found out about this at 5 am on monday morning. when it was too late to register. i can bring up more peeople to european fusion and russia if need my help msg me.. damn who gathered people without contacting me I have most contacts. i could get all the teams in the world together. would have team brazil. mexico. even a fckin team moon ...
now its a poo nation war. who making such big teams for 3 1v1 and 1 2v2 . need not more than 7-10 players a team.
On September 01 2015 07:11 LV-Hellscream wrote: i found out about this at 5 am on monday morning. when it was too late to register. i can bring up more peeople to european fusion and russia if need my help msg me.. damn who gathered people without contacting me I have most contacts. i could get all the teams in the world together. would have team brazil. mexico. even a fckin team moon ...
now its a poo nation war. who making such big teams for 3 1v1 and 1 2v2 . need not more than 7-10 players a team.
We can accept up to 2 late sign ups for making the format cleaner (3 pools of 4) ~ Please let me know asap though if you think you can help gather these teams.
lol... Wrong account... Well I guess most people knew anyway .
On September 01 2015 07:11 LV-Hellscream wrote: i found out about this at 5 am on monday morning. when it was too late to register. i can bring up more peeople to european fusion and russia if need my help msg me.. damn who gathered people without contacting me I have most contacts. i could get all the teams in the world together. would have team brazil. mexico. even a fckin team moon ...
now its a poo nation war. who making such big teams for 3 1v1 and 1 2v2 . need not more than 7-10 players a team.
We can accept up to 2 late sign ups for making the format cleaner (3 pools of 4) ~ Please let me know asap though if you think you can help gather these teams.
lol... Wrong account... Well I guess most people knew anyway .
On August 31 2015 08:34 art_of_turtle wrote: Are there any rules considering race picking or random?
There are no rules in regards to player races. You're entitled to select whatever race you choose including random as long as your selection is clearly indicated before the countdown starts. The races in the thread just indicate a player's primary race selection.
How about racepicking?
For example... what if one guy plays pvp/tvt/zvz and the other guys plays tvz/tvp/pvt
This happened last time... I dont know who you are.. but
demonlord's solution: msging organisers about race that they're gonna play Eywa's solution: last minute switch FTW!
On August 31 2015 08:34 art_of_turtle wrote: Are there any rules considering race picking or random?
There are no rules in regards to player races. You're entitled to select whatever race you choose including random as long as your selection is clearly indicated before the countdown starts. The races in the thread just indicate a player's primary race selection.
How about racepicking?
For example... what if one guy plays pvp/tvt/zvz and the other guys plays tvz/tvp/pvt
This happened last time... I dont know who you are.. but
demonlord's solution: msging organisers about race that they're gonna play Eywa's solution: last minute switch FTW!
IMO demonlord's solution is much better...
Both Solutions accomplish the same thing. The only difference is a difference in flavor, one highlights professionalism, the other highlights how ridiculous race picking like that is.
But yes, both players will announce their races before the game begins (in private) then the races will be revealed.
Primary ID: vtv.marine - teacher[light] Country: Canada Best way to contact: skype: sweetlover1988 - facebook: mathrob2013@facebook.com Highest iCCup Rank: A- Highest Fish rank: E Best tournament placement (Optional): NA
Primary ID: Never)XenOsky( Country: Chile Best way to contact: facebook, iccup @op never, PM me to give u my facebook profile. Highest iCCup Rank: B- (old system) Highest Fish rank: D
-Can you show in the OP which maps are the "optimal 2v2 map" for each week?
-It looks like there are going to be 3 Pools for the Group Stage. Will there still be 8 teams advancing to the bracket stage, and if so, how will they be determined?
On September 01 2015 12:27 fearthequeen wrote: Couple things I'm curious about:
-Can you show in the OP which maps are the "optimal 2v2 map" for each week?
-It looks like there are going to be 3 Pools for the Group Stage. Will there still be 8 teams advancing to the bracket stage, and if so, how will they be determined?
6 teams advance to the elimination round, the top 2 teams will advance from each pool. The 2 byes are given to the teams with the best group stage stats Nation War W/L -> Set W/L -> game W/L. If all is tied between 2 or more teams, a playoff for seeding will occur (very unlikely).
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