On July 15 2015 21:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Amazingxkcd cast reminds me of that episode of how i meet your mother where robin say a word in the tv news and ted and his students drinks ... however however however, lol...
these kind of things only come out in a solo cast, still its not so bad and anyone can learn to better themselves after a while.
On July 15 2015 22:43 _Animus_ wrote: That Bisu vs Hero game! It makes me wonder, is the zerg so imba, or just hero is so much better than bisu? I dont see what bisu did so wrong in this game, there were some mistakes like too much goons in the first big engagement that got eated by cheap lings. But come on, hero's 4th got working so late after bisu got his 3rd fully saturated. Not to mention how much overlord bisu killed untill that time. Still Hero comes ahead in every engagement. After that, bisu negated 2 of hero's expansions with dt drops and still got nothing out of it.
It was bassically equall bases for both players most of the game and bisu couldnt do anything fruitfull with his forces, maybe more defensive play was prefferable(coz hes not Jangbi you know ^^), so he can trade army more cost efficient.
The doomdrops pretty much decided the game, but i feel that if bisu turtled on another base that would have been his chance instead of attacking and insta losing the game.
Hero is that good imo. He's really solid and can take games off Bisu. I predicted Bisu would lose this match. I hope they meet in the finals for a SSL9 rematch.
Yeah! Hero is a great player. I remember there were a couple of proleague games where he played with bisu and he also won those games amazingly. Good thing bisu was able to beat him in Terror's starleague.
Q 우승 욕심이 날 것 같다. A 김택용 선수에게 단판은 많이 이긴 것 같은데, 김택용 선수가 다전제를 잘한다. 높은 곳에서 만나면 또 다른 느낌일 것 같다. 넘어 섰다기 보다 한 판 이겼다고 생각. 다전제에선 준비를 더 잘하는 사람이 이길 거라 생각한다. 만만한 상대가 없다고 생각한다.
Q. You seem very eager to win the championship. A. Bisu has won a lot of elimination style tournaments, but he is also good in round robin formats. I would have had a different feeling if we met in an upper round. In a round robin format, the person who prepares the most will win. That's why I don't think anyone will be an easy opponent.
On July 15 2015 22:43 _Animus_ wrote: That Bisu vs Hero game! It makes me wonder, is the zerg so imba, or just hero is so much better than bisu? I dont see what bisu did so wrong in this game, there were some mistakes like too much goons in the first big engagement that got eated by cheap lings. But come on, hero's 4th got working so late after bisu got his 3rd fully saturated. Not to mention how much overlord bisu killed untill that time. Still Hero comes ahead in every engagement. After that, bisu negated 2 of hero's expansions with dt drops and still got nothing out of it.
It was bassically equall bases for both players most of the game and bisu couldnt do anything fruitfull with his forces, maybe more defensive play was prefferable(coz hes not Jangbi you know ^^), so he can trade army more cost efficient.
The doomdrops pretty much decided the game, but i feel that if bisu turtled on another base that would have been his chance instead of attacking and insta losing the game.
I noticed that Hero was ahead on upgrades... he had 3/3 hydras taking on 3/0/1 Protoss forces. Maybe that was 'cuz Bisu's forge got blowed up early on. Could be a lot of why hero kept winning the engagements.
XCD during the cast also made a lot out of Bisu not being sharp, messing up on things like not canceling an obviously doomed warping-in Nexus (Bisu also seemed off with a number of his storms).
Maybe that's true, but even so, didn't look like a walkover easy win for hero.
Is Bisu still allegedly joining the army very soon? Perhaps he's distracted.
I feel is Bisu just defended his fourth and reestablished his fifth base instead of wasting his army he'd be in a strong position. You don't see many games where P with 4 or 5 gases loses to Z. I think Bisu would be even or ahead if he didn't lose his bases with no compensation.
Bisu's big mistake was to put down third when he had no observer. He should have been patient, wait for obs and push along with setting up third. He lost way to much trying to sneak the third while being contained.
On July 16 2015 12:28 [[Starlight]] wrote: XCD during the cast also made a lot out of Bisu not being sharp, messing up on things like not canceling an obviously doomed warping-in Nexus (Bisu also seemed off with a number of his storms).
Maybe that's true, but even so, didn't look like a walkover easy win for hero.
Is Bisu still allegedly joining the army very soon? Perhaps he's distracted.
Did that nexus actually finish? Could have beer last second cancel since protoss buildings does leave ruins if it's canceled right when it's warping into it's place. But Bisu seemed a bit sloppy for sure.
On July 16 2015 17:08 arbiter_md wrote: Bisu's big mistake was to put down third when he had no observer. He should have been patient, wait for obs and push along with setting up third. He lost way to much trying to sneak the third while being contained.
I agree with this, Bisu was contained and yet he tried to expand without any protection at the third. He took a huge risk and it did not pay off. And that sort of risktaking should never pay off on heros level.
On July 16 2015 17:08 arbiter_md wrote: Bisu's big mistake was to put down third when he had no observer. He should have been patient, wait for obs and push along with setting up third. He lost way to much trying to sneak the third while being contained.
I agree with this, Bisu was contained and yet he tried to expand without any protection at the third. He took a huge risk and it did not pay off. And that sort of risktaking should never pay off on heros level.
how good is your skill guys ? if u re a protoss player u must know u need to take ur third without obs unless you re making some 2 bases semi all in 6-7 gateways.
On July 16 2015 18:28 LaStScan wrote: New map, new strategy. Can't rely on the same build concept like fighting spirit map. It was a good match to watch. ^^
On July 15 2015 22:43 _Animus_ wrote: That Bisu vs Hero game! It makes me wonder, is the zerg so imba, or just hero is so much better than bisu? I dont see what bisu did so wrong in this game, there were some mistakes like too much goons in the first big engagement that got eated by cheap lings. But come on, hero's 4th got working so late after bisu got his 3rd fully saturated. Not to mention how much overlord bisu killed untill that time. Still Hero comes ahead in every engagement. After that, bisu negated 2 of hero's expansions with dt drops and still got nothing out of it.
It was bassically equall bases for both players most of the game and bisu couldnt do anything fruitfull with his forces, maybe more defensive play was prefferable(coz hes not Jangbi you know ^^), so he can trade army more cost efficient.
The doomdrops pretty much decided the game, but i feel that if bisu turtled on another base that would have been his chance instead of attacking and insta losing the game.
I noticed that Hero was ahead on upgrades... he had 3/3 hydras taking on 3/0/1 Protoss forces. Maybe that was 'cuz Bisu's forge got blowed up early on. Could be a lot of why hero kept winning the engagements.
XCD during the cast also made a lot out of Bisu not being sharp, messing up on things like not canceling an obviously doomed warping-in Nexus (Bisu also seemed off with a number of his storms).
Maybe that's true, but even so, didn't look like a walkover easy win for hero.
Is Bisu still allegedly joining the army very soon? Perhaps he's distracted.
Well thats true, such upgrade difference is pretty strong for the zerg.
In that case + seeing how this shuttle drops are so successful, makes me thinking about that a better option could be more defensive play from bisu and arbiter tech for for teleport, coz toss can do doom drops too. its enough to recal army in the two mains that hero have, and destory his tech while keeping his bases defended.
Also, I saw a dream last night. Killer was crushing everyone and I was right behind his shoulder. Killer is going to win this SSL and become 3rd time champion. SBENU better order a golden mouse now!
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