On February 08 2014 21:31 RowdierBob wrote: Wow, Hero is so sick at zvp. Should've been much further behind after that failed opening.
He was ahead after that opening. That's the thing with those 3 hatch hydra strats, most of the time you do enough damage that you won't really be behind even if you "fail".
it didnt fail because he did do enough dmg by killing some probes that are pulled+ forcing more cannons.
On February 08 2014 21:31 RowdierBob wrote: Wow, Hero is so sick at zvp. Should've been much further behind after that failed opening.
He was ahead after that opening. That's the thing with those 3 hatch hydra strats, most of the time you do enough damage that you won't really be behind even if you "fail".
hmm u are not good at bw.
good argument.
i don't get it either. Can you explain why he was supposed to be so much behind after he killed gate,forge, 10-15 probes and forced like 4? cannons. While not loosing too many hydras so he was completely safe against (early) reaver harass?.
On February 08 2014 21:31 RowdierBob wrote: Wow, Hero is so sick at zvp. Should've been much further behind after that failed opening.
He was ahead after that opening. That's the thing with those 3 hatch hydra strats, most of the time you do enough damage that you won't really be behind even if you "fail".
hmm u are not good at bw.
good argument.
i don't get it either. Can you explain why he was supposed to be so much behind after he killed gate,forge, 10-15 probes and forced like 4? cannons. While not loosing too many hydras so he was completely safe against (early) reaver harass?.
Because going for early hydra bust means that you won't have a lot of drones and you'll have pretty bad economy as Zerg. After the hydra bust failed, hero had to spend considerable amount of time making drones and rebuilding his economy.
But still, the game was pretty equal and I actually think the Movie threw that game because when he killed the 3rd of hero, he should've just gone to kill 12 o'clock expansion as well, which only had one sunken as well. He had more than enough units to do it easily, but maybe he didn't scout it in time or something, I really have no idea why he wouldn't go for it, but he instead just danced around with his units back and forth and then even tried attacking the natural.
On February 08 2014 21:31 RowdierBob wrote: Wow, Hero is so sick at zvp. Should've been much further behind after that failed opening.
He was ahead after that opening. That's the thing with those 3 hatch hydra strats, most of the time you do enough damage that you won't really be behind even if you "fail".
hmm u are not good at bw.
That's right but doesn't invalidade what I said. There is a reason I set "fail" in "".
On February 08 2014 21:31 RowdierBob wrote: Wow, Hero is so sick at zvp. Should've been much further behind after that failed opening.
He was ahead after that opening. That's the thing with those 3 hatch hydra strats, most of the time you do enough damage that you won't really be behind even if you "fail".
it didnt fail because he did do enough dmg by killing some probes that are pulled+ forcing more cannons.
See above. That's why I used "" for fail. It wasn't failed of course. But for an all-in it's pretty easy to do enough damage and don't kill your oponent to be fairly even in the game.
On February 08 2014 21:31 RowdierBob wrote: Wow, Hero is so sick at zvp. Should've been much further behind after that failed opening.
He was ahead after that opening. That's the thing with those 3 hatch hydra strats, most of the time you do enough damage that you won't really be behind even if you "fail".
hmm u are not good at bw.
good argument.
i don't get it either. Can you explain why he was supposed to be so much behind after he killed gate,forge, 10-15 probes and forced like 4? cannons. While not loosing too many hydras so he was completely safe against (early) reaver harass?.
Because going for early hydra bust means that you won't have a lot of drones and you'll have pretty bad economy as Zerg. After the hydra bust failed, hero had to spend considerable amount of time making drones and rebuilding his economy.
But still, the game was pretty equal and I actually think the Movie threw that game because when he killed the 3rd of hero, he should've just gone to kill 12 o'clock expansion as well, which only had one sunken as well. He had more than enough units to do it easily, but maybe he didn't scout it in time or something, I really have no idea why he wouldn't go for it, but he instead just danced around with his units back and forth and then even tried attacking the natural.
Yep, I also think he should have backed up as his army drew too thin to, since he had to cancel (or cancelt on purpose?) his third.
On February 08 2014 21:31 RowdierBob wrote: Wow, Hero is so sick at zvp. Should've been much further behind after that failed opening.
He was ahead after that opening. That's the thing with those 3 hatch hydra strats, most of the time you do enough damage that you won't really be behind even if you "fail".
hmm u are not good at bw.
good argument.
i don't get it either. Can you explain why he was supposed to be so much behind after he killed gate,forge, 10-15 probes and forced like 4? cannons. While not loosing too many hydras so he was completely safe against (early) reaver harass?.
Because going for early hydra bust means that you won't have a lot of drones and you'll have pretty bad economy as Zerg. After the hydra bust failed, hero had to spend considerable amount of time making drones and rebuilding his economy.
But still, the game was pretty equal and I actually think the Movie threw that game because when he killed the 3rd of hero, he should've just gone to kill 12 o'clock expansion as well, which only had one sunken as well. He had more than enough units to do it easily, but maybe he didn't scout it in time or something, I really have no idea why he wouldn't go for it, but he instead just danced around with his units back and forth and then even tried attacking the natural.
Pretty much this. BW isn't SC2--you can't pump drones at will. Throwing all those resources into an early game hydra bust comes at a huge eco cost if you don't outright win or do significant damage. Hero's saving grace was killing enough probes to keep the game relatively even. He was still behind though but Movie couldn't get it done.