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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
February 08 2014 13:28 GMT
#101
On February 08 2014 22:26 ne4aJIb wrote:
stupid fucking bo1s ruined everything

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Movie < Mist > (T)Sea
(P)Movie < Circuit Breaker >(T)Sea
(P)Movie < New Sniper Ridge >(T)Sea

(P)Movie < Circuit Breaker > (T)Sea

...
En Taro Violet
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51623 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 13:35:43
February 08 2014 13:31 GMT
#102
sea

On February 08 2014 22:26 ne4aJIb wrote:
stupid fucking bo1s ruined everything


I think I said it last time too, I'd much prefer it if it was all Bo1.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5504 Posts
February 08 2014 13:35 GMT
#103
On February 08 2014 22:28 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 22:26 ne4aJIb wrote:
stupid fucking bo1s ruined everything

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Movie < Mist > (T)Sea
(P)Movie < Circuit Breaker >(T)Sea
(P)Movie < New Sniper Ridge >(T)Sea

(P)Movie < Circuit Breaker > (T)Sea

...

Yh... Sea also played pretty dumb. Also I don't think that theres a reason for not having vision around your base.

I remember losing to fact float back when I was D- since then I've always been building my 2nd pylon to spot... And I was what C max, not anymore probably. Compared to Sea who could easily get olympic on iccup.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 08 2014 13:38 GMT
#104
Would you mind LRing the last game?
Michael Probu
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 13:43:16
February 08 2014 13:40 GMT
#105
On February 08 2014 22:38 juvenal wrote:
Would you mind LRing the last game?

The games are all finished I'm afraid

You can watch the last game here
http://www.twitch.tv/caucasianasian1/b/501699135?t=180m31s

Or you can read Sayle's LR below lol
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
February 08 2014 13:41 GMT
#106
It's okay I can LR.

- Movie picks protoss
- Sea picks terran
- Sea picked wrong, gg
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51623 Posts
February 08 2014 13:44 GMT
#107
On February 08 2014 22:41 Sayle wrote:
It's okay I can LR.

- Movie picks protoss
- Sea picks terran
- Sea picked wrong, gg

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I'm just tired of this.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 08 2014 13:44 GMT
#108
On February 08 2014 22:41 Sayle wrote:
It's okay I can LR.

- Movie picks protoss
- Sea picks terran
- Sea picked wrong, gg

is this sc2? i thought i am in the other forum
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
February 08 2014 13:48 GMT
#109
On February 08 2014 21:54 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 21:46 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On February 08 2014 21:43 Keniji wrote:
On February 08 2014 21:36 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On February 08 2014 21:35 Miragee wrote:
On February 08 2014 21:31 RowdierBob wrote:
Wow, Hero is so sick at zvp. Should've been much further behind after that failed opening.


He was ahead after that opening. That's the thing with those 3 hatch hydra strats, most of the time you do enough damage that you won't really be behind even if you "fail".

hmm u are not good at bw.


good argument.

i don't get it either. Can you explain why he was supposed to be so much behind after he killed gate,forge, 10-15 probes and forced like 4? cannons. While not loosing too many hydras so he was completely safe against (early) reaver harass?.

Because going for early hydra bust means that you won't have a lot of drones and you'll have pretty bad economy as Zerg. After the hydra bust failed, hero had to spend considerable amount of time making drones and rebuilding his economy.

But still, the game was pretty equal and I actually think the Movie threw that game because when he killed the 3rd of hero, he should've just gone to kill 12 o'clock expansion as well, which only had one sunken as well. He had more than enough units to do it easily, but maybe he didn't scout it in time or something, I really have no idea why he wouldn't go for it, but he instead just danced around with his units back and forth and then even tried attacking the natural.


Pretty much this. BW isn't SC2--you can't pump drones at will. Throwing all those resources into an early game hydra bust comes at a huge eco cost if you don't outright win or do significant damage. Hero's saving grace was killing enough probes to keep the game relatively even. He was still behind though but Movie couldn't get it done.


what has sc2 to do with anything? My point was that hero did huge eco dmg to movie, while keeping a strong enough hydra army to keep transition/pumping drones without risk after the burst. Thus, he somewhat made up for the eco investment he took early. Of course, if he hadn't killed the probes he would have been substantially behind. But he did. That's why I was wondering about "u are not good at bw" when it was a fair point that he "hydra all-in" wasn't a total "fail".
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
February 08 2014 16:33 GMT
#110
The strat will be called questionable when bisu is suddenly owned by shine with it. I mean there really could be something to it
Michael Probu
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
February 08 2014 16:47 GMT
#111
some really good games today, a solid group overall
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
February 08 2014 16:54 GMT
#112
On February 08 2014 22:41 Sayle wrote:
It's okay I can LR.

- Movie picks protoss
- Sea picks terran
- Sea picked wrong, gg


So by that definition Sea deserves to lose anyway because he was an idiot at picking.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 19:38:50
February 08 2014 19:37 GMT
#113
lol, I saw exactly this happening after Sea's loss to Jaehoon the other day. I knew that modesty is capable of beating Hero but probably still a slight underdog in the bo3 and that Hero's ZvP is too good for Movie on circuit breaker. It's a real shame that Sea's TvP is so weak right now, it used to be stronger and as a result it appears he won't be able to get another SSL title.

edit: Thnx for the cast, caught it live from 6am till 11
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 21:57:26
February 08 2014 19:37 GMT
#114
I think we are now seeing Sea's nerve striking him again. He isn't called "King of ProLeague" for no reason. The games he played today were sloppy. Its just sooner or later that good mentality player like Mind to take the number 1 Terran place.

P.S. Hoping to see Bisu vs hero soon in the Quarterfinal just because that will be interesting. I don't think any Protoss in the world can challenge hero's ZvP atm.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
February 08 2014 19:45 GMT
#115
On February 09 2014 01:54 CruelZeratul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 22:41 Sayle wrote:
It's okay I can LR.

- Movie picks protoss
- Sea picks terran
- Sea picked wrong, gg


So by that definition Sea deserves to lose anyway because he was an idiot at picking.


You fail to detect the sarcasm in sayle statement
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
February 08 2014 20:37 GMT
#116
Eng vods are up at youtube.com/saylebw btw

Just finished watching after falling asleep last night. I LBed it right but still sad Sea didn't advance
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2057 Posts
February 08 2014 21:00 GMT
#117
really entertaining series (the pvts and zvp that i watched, skipped the zvz/tvz lol) today, this ssl feels a lot like the old msl/osl and im making an effort to catch more games now

about hero vs movie, hero was definitely ahead all game (killing all the probes in the natural and losing almost no hydras is pretty big..) until the point where movies attack at his 3rd forced him into a horrible position and he lost that base, at which point he was behind, and only came back because he continuously denied movies 3rd base with excellent muta micro and guerrilla tactics
aka DragOn[NaS]
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19393 Posts
February 08 2014 21:18 GMT
#118
Sea is out. Not too surprising after ro32. Glad movie is still in this.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
February 08 2014 21:49 GMT
#119
On February 09 2014 04:37 Xiphos wrote:
I think we are now seeing Sea's nerve striking him again. He isn't called "King of ProLeague" for no reason. The games he played today were sloppy. Its just sooner or later that good mentality player like Mind to take the number 1 Terran place.

lol
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
February 08 2014 21:51 GMT
#120
This was a damn good group. hero just putting on a clinic.

Glad Sea is out, just goes to show that Jaehoon would have probably reached Ro16.
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