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CrazyLurker
Profile Joined December 2012
6 Posts
February 09 2014 14:12 GMT
#121
I dont think 3 hatch hydra is a cheese build anymore and can become standard just like 3 hatch fast spire.I see it regularly on good sospa afreeca players.They dont go all in except if they really hide their fast den and they go for fast kill.Three hatch hydra that Hero is doing offen is a safe opening even if scouted,they make just 6-8 hydras for forcing some extra cannons and destroying forge gateway and they keep pumping drones after that.
LV_426
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland436 Posts
February 09 2014 16:29 GMT
#122
3hatch + double hydra den for upgrades its almost allin, unless u do significant dmg, which allow you to make transition into mid/late game [which hero did btw]
CrazyLurker
Profile Joined December 2012
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 19:26:44
February 09 2014 19:19 GMT
#123
On February 10 2014 01:29 LV_426 wrote:
3hatch + double hydra den for upgrades its almost allin, unless u do significant dmg, which allow you to make transition into mid/late game [which hero did btw]

agree with you here about that game with that double den...i was speaking generally,and i think 3 hatch hydra its a versatile opening and a safe one if u dont exagerate with hydra production.ABout his versatility i can give an example of Larva-Movie game that was in sospa some time ago and where larva did 3 hatch den opening (placed in main and natural) and after that wich he double expand into 6 hatch hydra and completely overwhelmed Movie.
I think 3 hatch hydra has big potential not by just puting some pressure on toss slowing his eco and cutting his +1 zelot timing by destroing his forge but even in macro and can give a better advantage in drone count compared to 3 hatch spire where u sacrifice some eco into fast tech.
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
February 10 2014 06:40 GMT
#124
I'm glad Sea got knocked out. He was never as much as he was hyped up to be. Though I do wish there were more terrans in this SSL
Long live BroodWar!
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 06:43:05
February 10 2014 06:42 GMT
#125
When CBY drew Sea and then Movie for the same group she immediately started apologizing.. so I think he must've said something like he doesn't want to face Movie (or protoss in general?) before in the interview. Too lazy to look it up.
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JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
February 10 2014 06:52 GMT
#126
On February 10 2014 15:42 Stratos wrote:
When CBY drew Sea and then Movie for the same group she immediately started apologizing.. so I think he must've said something like he doesn't want to face Movie (or protoss in general?) before in the interview. Too lazy to look it up.

She asked sea after the finals match in the interview who he wants to avoid and sea said he'd like to avoid Protoss. She jokingly said something like "I'll take a peak and try to not get protoss" and then she ended up matching sea up with toss lol
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
February 10 2014 08:49 GMT
#127
I really would prefer groups of 6 people, where everybody plays everybody Bo3. At the end top3 places qualify. I know, it would mean a lot of games. We could say top2 qualify to make the tournament shorter.
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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
February 10 2014 18:58 GMT
#128
On February 10 2014 17:49 arbiter_md wrote:
I really would prefer groups of 6 people, where everybody plays everybody Bo3. At the end top3 places qualify. I know, it would mean a lot of games. We could say top2 qualify to make the tournament shorter.

Isn't that what they do for Code S SC2 groups? The current format is fine as it is, especially since there's not an overwhelming number of players like SC2 has, so there's no reason to expand the number of players per group.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8699 Posts
February 10 2014 21:56 GMT
#129
On February 11 2014 03:58 SynC[gm] wrote:
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On February 10 2014 17:49 arbiter_md wrote:
I really would prefer groups of 6 people, where everybody plays everybody Bo3. At the end top3 places qualify. I know, it would mean a lot of games. We could say top2 qualify to make the tournament shorter.

Isn't that what they do for Code S SC2 groups? The current format is fine as it is, especially since there's not an overwhelming number of players like SC2 has, so there's no reason to expand the number of players per group.


Broodwar is also not a volatile as SC2. I think it should be all Bo3 though. But then again: You have to win 2 or 3 games (depending on the route) to advance but you have to at least lose 3 matches to drop out. I think it's fair.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 10 2014 22:22 GMT
#130
On February 09 2014 06:00 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
really entertaining series (the pvts and zvp that i watched, skipped the zvz/tvz lol) today, this ssl feels a lot like the old msl/osl and im making an effort to catch more games now

about hero vs movie, hero was definitely ahead all game (killing all the probes in the natural and losing almost no hydras is pretty big..) until the point where movies attack at his 3rd forced him into a horrible position and he lost that base, at which point he was behind, and only came back because he continuously denied movies 3rd base with excellent muta micro and guerrilla tactics


Hmm, to me I didn't really ever feel hero got behind. He lost his third and a good number of units defending, however he also blocked any attempts at movie getting up his own third, and movie was mined out in his main before even his first attack, and his natural ran dry shortly after the attack finished, whereas hero still had three operational bases (though main and nat were close to running dry).

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
February 11 2014 01:46 GMT
#131
Dang, Sea is out. No Sea vs Bisu finals.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States601 Posts
February 11 2014 02:24 GMT
#132
Man. The pain of having sea and killer out so early... Come on, Bisu, you're our only star power hope.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
February 11 2014 03:22 GMT
#133
On February 11 2014 11:24 Phyanketto wrote:
Man. The pain of having sea and killer out so early... Come on, Bisu, you're our only star power hope.


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Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States601 Posts
February 11 2014 09:46 GMT
#134
On February 11 2014 12:22 Xiphos wrote:
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On February 11 2014 11:24 Phyanketto wrote:
Man. The pain of having sea and killer out so early... Come on, Bisu, you're our only star power hope.


JangBi?!?!?!
ZerO??!?!
To a lesser extend:
Mind??!?!?


Jangbi and Zero haven't done that much in the BW community yet... I mean, neither has bisu, but he's part of TBLS.
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