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iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
May 21 2012 00:34 GMT
#1561
Is that xellos.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
May 21 2012 03:27 GMT
#1562
my god what happened to Sea. sigh
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
May 21 2012 04:49 GMT
#1563
gosh... i can't watch the sc2 videos i'm sorry i tried watching the VOD but stopped... not because of the different UI or the gameplay, but because of the different terms... it's sooo stupid, I thought Kespa decided to use the English version... until they do, I'm like going to mute or watch restreams of the games, because the korean terms are terrible earsores no one should have to listen to...
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 21 2012 09:52 GMT
#1564
On May 21 2012 13:49 Bisu-Fan wrote:
gosh... i can't watch the sc2 videos i'm sorry i tried watching the VOD but stopped... not because of the different UI or the gameplay, but because of the different terms... it's sooo stupid, I thought Kespa decided to use the English version... until they do, I'm like going to mute or watch restreams of the games, because the korean terms are terrible earsores no one should have to listen to...

dude, they're in korea, playing with other koreans, in korean terms.

ps. kespa= Korean e-Sports Association
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
May 21 2012 10:21 GMT
#1565
On May 21 2012 09:16 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 08:04 Whiztard wrote:
On May 20 2012 16:26 SkelA wrote:
How good is JD in SC2 ?

He lost to Rain... Protoss imba ? :D


the least that we can say is that his ZvP isn't up to par yet. he had trouble dealing with positioning against force fields overall


The question is, how the fuck do you position yourself against something that move your units away and stand there after, hard like a rock, for several seconds?

Im still a newbie on sc2 but I think FFs are pretty gay.


You fight on open spaces. On open spaces, many forcfields are needed to split an army. Yout will also use multipronged attacks to even further increase the surface area. Sentry energy is limited, and once it is used up the protoss army gets much more vunurable. You will often see zerg players approaching the protoss trying to bait forcefields. If the protss waits to long then the army is already on top of him, if he casts to soon the zerg army retreats and the sentry energy is wasted.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 21 2012 10:29 GMT
#1566
On May 21 2012 19:21 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 09:16 sM.Zik wrote:
On May 21 2012 08:04 Whiztard wrote:
On May 20 2012 16:26 SkelA wrote:
How good is JD in SC2 ?

He lost to Rain... Protoss imba ? :D


the least that we can say is that his ZvP isn't up to par yet. he had trouble dealing with positioning against force fields overall


The question is, how the fuck do you position yourself against something that move your units away and stand there after, hard like a rock, for several seconds?

Im still a newbie on sc2 but I think FFs are pretty gay.


You fight on open spaces. On open spaces, many forcfields are needed to split an army. Yout will also use multipronged attacks to even further increase the surface area. Sentry energy is limited, and once it is used up the protoss army gets much more vunurable. You will often see zerg players approaching the protoss trying to bait forcefields. If the protss waits to long then the army is already on top of him, if he casts to soon the zerg army retreats and the sentry energy is wasted.

Not to mention bad forcefields can mean instant death for protoss in the early stages, which is the reason MC was able to be so much better than his comrades for so long. Other players are catching up, but for a while MC was the only one with perfect forcefields and everyone would go "FF IMBA, SO OP SO GAY!!", only to see someone else try the same and die due to bad FF useage.

It's really not as easy as it looks, though perfect FFs are definitely more important vT than vZ
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 12:20:34
May 21 2012 12:20 GMT
#1567
today i got off work and came home around 9pm. I turned on ongamenet for the first time in quite some time. I see Horang2 and the cj team huddling so i think cool, i can watch some BW. but there is no BW.

Please someone fill me in. What happened to proleague?
manner
shaggles
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland108 Posts
May 21 2012 16:20 GMT
#1568
On May 21 2012 21:20 d_so wrote:
today i got off work and came home around 9pm. I turned on ongamenet for the first time in quite some time. I see Horang2 and the cj team huddling so i think cool, i can watch some BW. but there is no BW.

Please someone fill me in. What happened to proleague?

It is on suspended sanity mode. Somebody wants us to admit worse is better. At least they have their chance to show SC2 to the fans that are able to compare both games, and let's hope it will kill it.

Sorry, I am biased, I've just seen JD.
I play the Chess of Computer Age
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
May 21 2012 16:20 GMT
#1569
On May 21 2012 21:20 d_so wrote:
today i got off work and came home around 9pm. I turned on ongamenet for the first time in quite some time. I see Horang2 and the cj team huddling so i think cool, i can watch some BW. but there is no BW.

Please someone fill me in. What happened to proleague?


We're you living under a rock the past months? (I don't say that to be mean lol, but its being discussed everywhere in TL for a while now). The SPL is now a hybrid of Bw/sc2 and next season its going to be full Sc2.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2984 Posts
May 23 2012 08:46 GMT
#1570
Jaehoon "I've practiced SC2 like crazy and totally let BW down, I'm gonna pwn those n00bs !!!!"

Coach "*Ahem*. Dude ... You're listed in the BW games ... Actually, you're playing Fantasy in round 1 ..."

Jaehoon : "WAT ?"

*Watch VOD for the rest of the story*
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
WaterTower
Profile Joined May 2011
France138 Posts
May 24 2012 09:22 GMT
#1571
The dong has been terribly disappointing. Proves BW skills dont carry over to SC2. I wonder if JD is motivated at all.
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
May 24 2012 14:17 GMT
#1572
On May 24 2012 18:22 WaterTower wrote:
The dong has been terribly disappointing. Proves BW skills dont carry over to SC2. I wonder if JD is motivated at all.


You should watch some vods of the firsts GSL, and remember how awful people and games were back in the days. How many BW B-teamers are now considered best of the bests ? A lot.

Give them some time to improve. I can't believe people can make these kind of statements after just a week of proleague.
I have to return some videotapes.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
May 24 2012 14:53 GMT
#1573
On May 24 2012 23:17 Ornithorynquez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 18:22 WaterTower wrote:
The dong has been terribly disappointing. Proves BW skills dont carry over to SC2. I wonder if JD is motivated at all.


You should watch some vods of the firsts GSL, and remember how awful people and games were back in the days. How many BW B-teamers are now considered best of the bests ? A lot.

Give them some time to improve. I can't believe people can make these kind of statements after just a week of proleague.


The problem for him will more be that the other BW zergs seem to have learned SC2 much faster than him. What was seen in WC3 is that the best players from one game might not stay the best in the next. Grubby and Moon were much better than Naniwa, Thorzain, Stephano, but now these players totally outshine them. JD will not have to play GOM players at the moment, but he needs to keep up with the other BW players and Effort is far ahead of him.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
May 24 2012 15:22 GMT
#1574
On May 24 2012 23:53 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 23:17 Ornithorynquez wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:22 WaterTower wrote:
The dong has been terribly disappointing. Proves BW skills dont carry over to SC2. I wonder if JD is motivated at all.


You should watch some vods of the firsts GSL, and remember how awful people and games were back in the days. How many BW B-teamers are now considered best of the bests ? A lot.

Give them some time to improve. I can't believe people can make these kind of statements after just a week of proleague.


The problem for him will more be that the other BW zergs seem to have learned SC2 much faster than him. What was seen in WC3 is that the best players from one game might not stay the best in the next. Grubby and Moon were much better than Naniwa, Thorzain, Stephano, but now these players totally outshine them. JD will not have to play GOM players at the moment, but he needs to keep up with the other BW players and Effort is far ahead of him.


Dude we saw ONE, ONNNNNNNNNNEE game. Doesnt mean shit honestly :|
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
May 24 2012 17:44 GMT
#1575
On May 24 2012 23:53 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 23:17 Ornithorynquez wrote:
On May 24 2012 18:22 WaterTower wrote:
The dong has been terribly disappointing. Proves BW skills dont carry over to SC2. I wonder if JD is motivated at all.


You should watch some vods of the firsts GSL, and remember how awful people and games were back in the days. How many BW B-teamers are now considered best of the bests ? A lot.

Give them some time to improve. I can't believe people can make these kind of statements after just a week of proleague.


The problem for him will more be that the other BW zergs seem to have learned SC2 much faster than him. What was seen in WC3 is that the best players from one game might not stay the best in the next. Grubby and Moon were much better than Naniwa, Thorzain, Stephano, but now these players totally outshine them. JD will not have to play GOM players at the moment, but he needs to keep up with the other BW players and Effort is far ahead of him.


Exactly, everything depends on his investment on the game.

I remember in a recent interview he said something about finding back his rookie mindset, maybe SC² will be the key of his comeback.

(T)ToSsGirL : That is impressive indeed. It is human nature to become complacent and narcissistic when you reach the top, but JD you seem to defy that.

(Z)Jaedong : It's a little embarrassing that you say that. In my opinion, I have lost the rookie mindset a bit. Something has definitely changed from the times when I could just focus on practicing and be happy with that.

However I have been trying my hardest to get back to that mindset. I don't think it's possible for anybody to maintain that mindset indefinitely. However, I will continue to try to go back to that rookie mindset.
I have to return some videotapes.
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