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zanzib
Profile Joined December 2009
China152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 17:19:12
February 16 2012 17:18 GMT
#1221
really disappointed in Sea this season, wasnt he known as a dominant proleague player like Leta few years back
Sometimes backwards is forwards.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
February 16 2012 17:49 GMT
#1222
On February 17 2012 02:18 zanzib wrote:
really disappointed in Sea this season, wasnt he known as a dominant proleague player like Leta few years back

Not just a few years back. He was pretty good in PL last season with a record 21-14 (60%).
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 19:51:43
February 16 2012 19:51 GMT
#1223
I would just like to add: STX, fuck yeah. Keep on keeping on. You guys deserve a playoff spot
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 20:51:18
February 16 2012 20:50 GMT
#1224
hyvaa has a S-class potential in ZvP though (because his series vs. Bisu last season was OMG)... I can't blame Jaehoon too much.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
February 16 2012 22:32 GMT
#1225
People don't give Shine enough credit. Shine is a high-calibre player, especially in ZvP. While he's good at hydra-busting, he also knows how to play a management game.

Jaehoon did not have to attack at all after the 19-kill dt. All he had to do was park 2 ht's each at his 3rd and 4th bases and wait for Hyvaa to move out and engage in the middle. He had the game won but he threw away his army because he had to pee or something.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
February 16 2012 23:24 GMT
#1226
On February 17 2012 02:18 zanzib wrote:
really disappointed in Sea this season, wasnt he known as a dominant proleague player like Leta few years back


To be fair, he's been getting a bunch of TvPs lately. T_T;;

Glad to see Jaedong and Baby win though.
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
February 17 2012 03:18 GMT
#1227
On February 16 2012 10:45 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Jaedong vs mini wasn't one-ninth as amazing as some of you led me to believe in this thread.

Jaedong went for a hydra bust, then won with mutalisks snipes and mass hydra, hydra, hydra. Really awesome. Basically, I just watched Shine play a ZvP, but because it's jaedong omg so amazing.


agreed

jaedong's play wasn't very good. mini's was just worse
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
February 17 2012 04:56 GMT
#1228
STX FTW
Keep this shit up and we're getting in on this post season.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 05:53:43
February 17 2012 05:48 GMT
#1229
I would say that typically in Jaehoon's situation, attacking at that particular timing was not bad at all, if not completely normal! Whereas many people here seem to embody a "fall back and build advantage" philosophy, Korean progamers typically hold to the philosophy of "end game if and when you can" philosophy (popularized by Nada)

I would like to point out that we have had relatively few late-game ZvPs this season, and that Protosses have primarily been winning by killing the Zerg in the mid-game, instead of drawing it out to the late-game.

Jaehoon by all of accounts should've destroyed Hyvaa's army, but a combination of Jaehoon not adequately preparing against Mutas, Jaehoon's army being split and Hyvaa pulling off some very slick micro led to a reversal, instead of what should've been a game-ender. It's a mistake that Jaehoon probably won't make again for some time to come.

IMO, the real blame lies with Sea and Killer. Sea in particular, for horrifically fucking up his 2-1 timing push micro this last game and just waffling almost every single TvP he play. Unfortunately for Hoon, there's no other option ..

oh, and regarding Shine, even though I fucking hate his guts, I will say that he has (or had, dunno what he does nowadays) some amazing micro, evidenced by his superb ZvZ and his good ZvP play back when Muta/Hydra was easier to pull off.
Writerptrk
WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
February 17 2012 08:25 GMT
#1230
BOGUS THE BEST
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 17 2012 09:51 GMT
#1231
On February 17 2012 14:48 ArvickHero wrote:

oh, and regarding Shine, even though I fucking hate his guts, I will say that he has (or had, dunno what he does nowadays) some amazing micro, evidenced by his superb ZvZ and his good ZvP play back when Muta/Hydra was easier to pull off.


You don't know? When he is not busy slumbering and feeding in Valhalla he comes out on Outlier to stomp on some poor protoss. It's rare, but convincing.
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 09:59:40
February 17 2012 09:58 GMT
#1232
couldnt finish watching it live when i was off Jaedong was close to winning, i thought 2:0 Team8 gonna win but WTF :O

Anyway i cant find the logic of Team8 lineup after Jaedong winning.. sending Killer makes kinda no sense to me cause after he was sent it was pretty obvious it will be Sea on Sniper Ridge and Protoss on Outlier so STX coach could snipe them easily..? well .. sucks for Team8 .. they are 6-9? They can loose only one game now to have chance to play in Playoffs
(well ok 2 games with incredible luck but not likely..)
WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
February 17 2012 15:21 GMT
#1233
sad that JAehoon will not play in the playoffs he is my favourite player from T8
BUT STX THE BEST! BOGUS THE BEST!
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
February 17 2012 15:33 GMT
#1234
Can someone briefly explain to me who and based off what they chose these lineups?
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
February 17 2012 18:22 GMT
#1235
On February 18 2012 00:33 Shadow_Dog wrote:
Can someone briefly explain to me who and based off what they chose these lineups?

Is this a sarcastic "wtf these lineups suck" post, or are you actually looking for information on the process and psychology behind lineup selection?
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
February 17 2012 20:43 GMT
#1236
On February 17 2012 18:51 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 14:48 ArvickHero wrote:

oh, and regarding Shine, even though I fucking hate his guts, I will say that he has (or had, dunno what he does nowadays) some amazing micro, evidenced by his superb ZvZ and his good ZvP play back when Muta/Hydra was easier to pull off.


You don't know? When he is not busy slumbering and feeding in Valhalla he comes out on Outlier to stomp on some poor protoss. It's rare, but convincing.

haha well I haven't seen any game by him this season since he almost never gets fielded, so I'm not sure of his current state ;p I'll have to check out that game then
Writerptrk
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
February 17 2012 21:36 GMT
#1237
On February 18 2012 00:33 Shadow_Dog wrote:
Can someone briefly explain to me who and based off what they chose these lineups?


coaches give kespa refs a piece of paper with the name of the player before each match is played, IE they can technically change the lineup on the fly, although from what i understand 99% of the time the coaches pick lineups ahead of time and have a player practice nonstop on just one map. generally coaches pick players based off of race and success rate in practice for each map.
Free Palestine
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 17 2012 22:26 GMT
#1238
On February 18 2012 05:43 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 18:51 hellbound wrote:
On February 17 2012 14:48 ArvickHero wrote:

oh, and regarding Shine, even though I fucking hate his guts, I will say that he has (or had, dunno what he does nowadays) some amazing micro, evidenced by his superb ZvZ and his good ZvP play back when Muta/Hydra was easier to pull off.


You don't know? When he is not busy slumbering and feeding in Valhalla he comes out on Outlier to stomp on some poor protoss. It's rare, but convincing.

haha well I haven't seen any game by him this season since he almost never gets fielded, so I'm not sure of his current state ;p I'll have to check out that game then


The one against free was more Shine playing standard and free failing so hard that he decided to just kill him and put him out of his misery. The one against Kal was a lot better. Sexy aggressive tech mindfuck BO into domination.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
February 17 2012 23:09 GMT
#1239
Sea and Jaehoon... MBC COME ON!
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 23:19:57
February 17 2012 23:17 GMT
#1240
On February 18 2012 06:36 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2012 00:33 Shadow_Dog wrote:
Can someone briefly explain to me who and based off what they chose these lineups?


coaches give kespa refs a piece of paper with the name of the player before each match is played, IE they can technically change the lineup on the fly, although from what i understand 99% of the time the coaches pick lineups ahead of time and have a player practice nonstop on just one map. generally coaches pick players based off of race and success rate in practice for each map.


No, teams gives lineup to referees before matches (set 1 to set 5 where sets 2-5 is locked before set 1 starts) start so they are locked and cant be changed on the fly.
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