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IcedEarth
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States3661 Posts
November 12 2004 04:25 GMT
#521
On November 12 2004 10:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
we've all lost track of what is really important

I won my bet with zia

ha ha ha ha ha~~


I hate you.

Someone shoot me plz.
Guardian guardian guardian of the blind
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28678 Posts
November 12 2004 04:28 GMT
#522
oh the sweet salty taste of victory/your tears

joy joy joy joy joy joy joy joy joy joy joy joy joy

<3
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Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
November 12 2004 04:45 GMT
#523
On November 12 2004 12:17 Liquid`Drone wrote:
shiv, nah not really

basically cheese is something that requires you to get lucky with your opponent's location (him scouting the wrong place) or him not playing as good as he could/should to win.

a build where you deny him scouting capabilities and then do something he needs to scout to beat (like say, making a fast zealot in ramp so his scv doesn't get inside your base followed by a carrier rush pvt is not cheese, imo. however building the starport in a random location of the map which he would be perfectly capable of scouting if he scouted is cheese. fast expanding to a random location of the map is cheese. )

proxy gates= cheese
proxy rax = cheese
cannon rush = cheese
5-7 pool = cheese
9pool can win against any build order if you're good with it. bringing 1-2 drones is something you only do to punish your opponent if he powered harder than he can expect to be allowed to do.

in my opinion anyway.

Amen.That was my point when arguing a while ago.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
November 12 2004 04:57 GMT
#524
haha that thing from south park made me crack up so bad

ooOooO your tears they taste so good and sweet.
i made you eat your parents. neh neh neh neh neh neh.
lol
ultimate revenge :D
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
SW)RIF
Profile Joined December 2003
United States563 Posts
November 12 2004 05:03 GMT
#525
Boxer did what he set out to do, play iloveoov in the finals. Seems remeniscent of WCG this year, almost like 2 players that knew they would make it to the finals to face eachother.
wasted
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany1789 Posts
November 12 2004 05:07 GMT
#526
Boxer and Yellow sitting in a tree...

[image loading]


P - W - N - E - D
---gone---
Splendid
Profile Joined August 2004
United States115 Posts
November 12 2004 05:22 GMT
#527
On November 12 2004 04:54 Gryffindor_us wrote:
Wow a paradox championship, I can't decide who I want to get pounded more. Do I want oov to destroy Boxer? or Boxer to show oOV off. Screw that, go ooV. GOO OOV.


This statement made me extremely satisfied. The purported leader of the "anti-oov fan club" finds it in his little black heart to support oov. Talk about a paradox...
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 12 2004 05:28 GMT
#528
On November 12 2004 14:07 wasted wrote:
Boxer and Yellow sitting in a tree...

[image loading]


P - W - N - E - D


Oh snap!
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Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
November 12 2004 05:36 GMT
#529
hahaha omg nice pic
poor yellow
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
November 12 2004 05:43 GMT
#530
the emporor > the overmind ;]
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 12 2004 05:46 GMT
#531
On November 12 2004 11:07 cav wrote:
8 rax is cheese.

Not IMO, its just an offensive build, it doesnt really get owned by any zerg build.

I don't like people complaining about cheese anyway. You just do what you have to do to win. When boxer does his cute stuff, he know they will work. He doesnt fuck up.

"He won, but he cheesed" <----die plz
Enter a Uh
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-12 06:09:47
November 12 2004 06:00 GMT
#532
On November 12 2004 14:22 Splendid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 04:54 Gryffindor_us wrote:
Wow a paradox championship, I can't decide who I want to get pounded more. Do I want oov to destroy Boxer? or Boxer to show oOV off. Screw that, go ooV. GOO OOV.


This statement made me extremely satisfied. The purported leader of the "anti-oov fan club" finds it in his little black heart to support oov. Talk about a paradox...


At least oov and reach created some great games.

I guess I'll be added to Abyss's list of dumbasses.

Highest level of T v Z play?

BULL SHIT
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
November 12 2004 06:02 GMT
#533
On November 12 2004 08:58 iloveoo wrote:
Boxer: "I will show everyone the highest level of Terran-Zerg games"

thanks a lot faggot


haha grow up.


It takes both players to make a super gg. If one player, in this case yellow, can not defend the first attack(cheese or not) from boxer, how do u expect boxer from showing off his possible strats he had in mind?
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
cav
Profile Joined August 2004
Pitcairn514 Posts
November 12 2004 06:56 GMT
#534
On November 12 2004 11:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
8 rax is not cheese. you 8rax, depot, scout opponent. if he goes for a build order which defends against it, like a 9pool, then you don't bother attacking. you don't lose much. if he 12pools, you're barely behind. if he fast expands, you win.

if you 2rax, you're more "even" against every build. but only better off vs a 12pool, and worse off against a fast expander.

8rax is no more cheese than 9pool is. and definitely not more cheesy than a fast expand.


so you think fast expand is cheesier than 8 rax? wtf?
Splendid
Profile Joined August 2004
United States115 Posts
November 12 2004 06:59 GMT
#535
On November 12 2004 15:00 Gryffindor_us wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 14:22 Splendid wrote:
On November 12 2004 04:54 Gryffindor_us wrote:
Wow a paradox championship, I can't decide who I want to get pounded more. Do I want oov to destroy Boxer? or Boxer to show oOV off. Screw that, go ooV. GOO OOV.


This statement made me extremely satisfied. The purported leader of the "anti-oov fan club" finds it in his little black heart to support oov. Talk about a paradox...


At least oov and reach created some great games.

I guess I'll be added to Abyss's list of dumbasses.

Highest level of T v Z play?

BULL SHIT

Your response has no relevance to my post whatsoever.
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
November 12 2004 07:04 GMT
#536
Oh really? You really are kind of fucked up. My black little heart? I may kid around and say some stuff that sounds outrageous but I don't sound as fucked up as you can. I am not the "purported" leader of the anti-oov club. Maybe I voice my opinion more often than others but what ever! You have to support one of the two, and I support the new guy because he is closer to NaDa than Boxer is and I like NaDa so pFFFFt.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
Splendid
Profile Joined August 2004
United States115 Posts
November 12 2004 07:16 GMT
#537
On November 12 2004 16:04 Gryffindor_us wrote:
Oh really? You really are kind of fucked up. My black little heart? I may kid around and say some stuff that sounds outrageous but I don't sound as fucked up as you can. I am not the "purported" leader of the anti-oov club. Maybe I voice my opinion more often than others but what ever! You have to support one of the two, and I support the new guy because he is closer to NaDa than Boxer is and I like NaDa so pFFFFt.

*little black heart*
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
November 12 2004 07:20 GMT
#538
Thank you for editing my post, such content!
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
Splendid
Profile Joined August 2004
United States115 Posts
November 12 2004 07:30 GMT
#539
On November 12 2004 16:20 Gryffindor_us wrote:
Thank you for editing my post, such content!

I revel in the fact that you now support iloveoov.
VerticalHorizon
Profile Joined September 2004
United States415 Posts
November 12 2004 07:31 GMT
#540
On November 12 2004 14:28 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2004 14:07 wasted wrote:
Boxer and Yellow sitting in a tree...

[image loading]


P - W - N - E - D


Oh snap!


lol poor yellow :-( but seriously, I agree with those who say 8 rax isn't cheese only because it's not do or die, it's not randomly based on map positions. Attacking with 1 rax and scvs is merely an option that comes with that build order. In a game, if you 8 rax and the z has done a build that seemingly counters or equalizes the rush, then you can just get a later 2nd rax at like 13 or 14 supply and continue playing as normal. Normally however, you can use the 8 rax option to threaten z with the risk of losing their fast expo... if z scouts the 8 rax fast, you can move as if you are attacking, causing z to pull drones or even cancel expo, then you yourself can pull back and expo or utilize the advantage in some other way. You dont HAVE to attack, cuz 8 rax isn't do or die, its just a strat that provides a variety of different options. It's aggressive and forces the z to respond to you and all the attack options you hold in your hand... personally, i think yellow just mentally shut down and lost so easily because he just couldn't mentally deal with the multitude of attack options that boxer now possessed (especially after winning the first game... cuz that adds another element of whether boxer will actually do the same bo or not in the next game) and so stuck with the same bo and got murdered +_+
Call it the greatest sin to prefer existence over honor and, for the sake of life, to lose the reasons for living. - Juvenal, Satires
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