• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:00
CET 19:00
KST 03:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket8Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1970 users

TeamLiquid Arena - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
September 15 2009 19:23 GMT
#41
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/TSL-Zelniq.html
D+
Zerg

(that was my terran, my zerg is low C)
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
September 15 2009 19:41 GMT
#42
Post your Z account please
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
September 15 2009 19:52 GMT
#43
D/D+ (Well I once hit D+) Zerg
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/Fatalis.html
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 15 2009 19:56 GMT
#44
]-[eRo D Zerg

Handicap: cannot make air units
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 20:06:16
September 15 2009 20:06 GMT
#45
On September 16 2009 04:56 Kenpachi wrote:
]-[eRo D Zerg

Handicap: cannot make air units

frogmelter said that on page 1
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
September 15 2009 20:07 GMT
#46
Strayline D+ Zerg.

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/strayline.html

I technically finished C- last season but I've never actually beaten anyone at that rank. I can beat D+ just reliably enough to get 100 points into C- every once in a while. Trust me I'm D+ lol
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
September 15 2009 20:10 GMT
#47
I didn't play enough games T____T
Writer
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
September 15 2009 20:17 GMT
#48
Oh god I need to play more games then... I played like a combined 20 games at D level >.>
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
September 15 2009 20:23 GMT
#49
FF7 is the game to play. It is even better than Starcraft.

+ Show Spoiler +
And omnishlash was awesome, but it was even more funny to juse use defence on Sepiroth in the final battle and then u counter and kills him by doing 800 or so dmg xD

And omnishlash with mime materia, lol
I pwn noobs
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
September 15 2009 20:29 GMT
#50
Nice idea! some of the handicaps are a bit harsh. t_t
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 15 2009 20:31 GMT
#51
Can I commentate with you lep? D:

(PS - commentating alone on bad games is hard
it's hard even not alone)
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
GoAudio
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden400 Posts
September 15 2009 20:50 GMT
#52
E-rZ.RoSe B- Zerg
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/E-rZ.RoSe.html
EffOrt[fOu] & Hyvaa[S.G] <3 :D
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5188 Posts
September 15 2009 21:03 GMT
#53
Edited my post on page 2.
Maybe my handicap idea could be useful one?
FBH #1!
vincentizghra
Profile Joined June 2009
Russian Federation5 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 21:41:36
September 15 2009 21:41 GMT
#54
Swft D/D- http://www.iccup.com/profile/view/swft.html
zerg/toss
tYsopz
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway215 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 21:44:06
September 15 2009 21:43 GMT
#55
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/profile/view/tysopz.html
D-ranked terran. Never been above D. :/
"I'm going to send them to a far far distant place called Disneyland. Safe and sound at their own convenience, at the fastest and cheapest rate." - Lee Sung Eun
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-16 02:14:35
September 15 2009 21:47 GMT
#56
I just brainstormed some handicaps. Some are a bit complex, but I feel that most are intuitive and their effects more subtle than obvious, and that the extremely high element of chance to most will add to the suspense. I recommend auto-rollers to determine the things meant to be randomly determined. I would rather handicaps be in the vein of these than the really typical, no "goon range" type ones, although those have a place too. I suggest permitting a player one veto on a handicap, causing it to be randomly determined again.

I feel like there is a pretty good variance on the difficulty these would add.

No units with energy-
No HTs / Dark Archons/ Sairs/ Arbiters or shield batteries. HT are still allowed but only if they are merged into archons.

I like this but it's complex :

Traitors in the midst -
Player plays with shared vision on from beginning of the game. However, if they kill one of their own units of a randomly determined specific type, vision is unshared. (Could be anything from a probe to a zealot to a carrier/arbiter, and the unit must be killed by their own forces). The unit specified does not change from one game to another (so once they discover what it is, they can merely kill one every game).


I think this is a better way to handle the no obs :

Scouts-
Player has to build a scout for each observer they wish to make. This is the only way that unit's name makes sense anyways.

Some random ones :

Shuffle-
One spell is randomly disabled, the spell disabled changes every game. (So it could be mind control or hallucinate, OR it could be psi storm in pvz).

Fewer workers -
Player must kill one of their initial 4 mining units with the other 3 probes. (This is a pretty frequent handicap that coaches use on their pros, from what I understand).

Exponential chains -
No two abilities of the same type can be used in a row - so if they wish to use psi storm, they must use another ability (hallucinate, etc.) in between. Building scarabs/interceptors doesn't count as an ability, however merge archons does, as does recharge shields.

Stranded -
Player must play on mercury vs zerg. (A T player must play on Neo Requiem or Katrina vs P. Z players can figure out a really imba map for tvz).

Predetermined Build -
Player's build up to 15-20 supply will be chosen by TL participants. It must be a real build order, and will supplant any early game handicaps (so they will not for example have to sacrifice a worker at the start if they have drawn that). This handicap is temporary, only lasting one game. However, builds from the wrong matchup are permitted (so fast goon range vs Z is fine). Their opponent will not be informed of the build. The player may cancel actions they have taken during this phase after they reach 15 supply. Builds such as 7 gate are fine, however those will probably disadvantage their opponent.

Non sequential distance -
Player can not build bases sequentially, and must always leave one base's space between their mining bases. (So they can expand to their natural after their main has run dry). This is not to be enforced hyper critically, once the base has started to lose mining patches it is fine to expand.

Double edged sword -
Both players play in team melee style, and the High rank player is not allowed to communicate with his partner.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
September 15 2009 21:47 GMT
#57
this is an awesome idea, i'm glad that TL is putting together things to keep me entertained during the offseason
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
September 15 2009 21:48 GMT
#58
Oh also, a suggestion for a handicap's name :

Play like Stork : No dragoon range.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 21:53:14
September 15 2009 21:50 GMT
#59
Handicap suggestions/ideas:
- no keyboard, or at least no hotkeys (since that's easy to check afterwards)
- time limit for victory
- has to kill off 1 or 2 own workers at start
- cannot scout opponent's bases
- must use specific spells (like... must attack with hallucinated units, must use d-webs, mind-control for protoss, must nuke or lockdown with terran, must spawn broodling with zerg, etc.)
- must have a kill on a worker
- must have a unit with more then x kills
- must keep chatting with an obs (like, random trivia or math questions in the meantime?)

sounds like fun, looking forward to "challenging" some non protoss pro once

edit: reading the thread, most of these have been already suggested:-p
BW fighting!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-15 22:01:20
September 15 2009 22:00 GMT
#60
Here's my last handicap idea, I was somewhat reluctant about posting it, because it's clearly very abusable, but every set of handicaps needs these :
This one is probably overpoweringly bad, but every set of handicaps needs one :

Nony's doom : Player must attempt to utilize a strategy either from an [I] thread or one suggested within the strategy forum regarding the matchup. A quick review of the last few days shows ones as benign as two forge timing attacks, or as egregious as corsairs in pvt. The threads/strategies will be chosen by TL members, however the player may be offered a choice between two different strategies. (This is to prevent them from being forced to do things that are auto-loss)
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 192
UpATreeSC 123
MindelVK 29
ForJumy 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37921
Calm 2904
Rain 2566
Sea 1816
firebathero 445
Rush 99
Hyun 88
Dewaltoss 81
Backho 56
Movie 17
[ Show more ]
HiyA 15
Terrorterran 15
yabsab 14
scan(afreeca) 12
Shine 9
Dota 2
Gorgc6999
qojqva2352
League of Legends
rGuardiaN33
Counter-Strike
allub406
Other Games
FrodaN1446
hiko626
Beastyqt584
ceh9549
Mlord376
Lowko357
RotterdaM237
KnowMe211
ArmadaUGS127
Sick116
Liquid`VortiX99
XaKoH 88
Trikslyr57
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream20566
Other Games
BasetradeTV37
Algost 4
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 8
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 29
• blackmanpl 7
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1849
• WagamamaTV499
League of Legends
• Jankos1569
• TFBlade1068
Other Games
• Shiphtur197
Upcoming Events
BSL: GosuLeague
3h
RSL Revival
13h 30m
Zoun vs Classic
SHIN vs TriGGeR
herO vs Reynor
Maru vs MaxPax
WardiTV Korean Royale
18h
Replay Cast
1d 5h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 18h
IPSL
1d 23h
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
BSL 21
2 days
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
3 days
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.