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having trouble with camping Protoss.

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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10540 Posts
December 11 2003 16:56 GMT
#1
Well this maybe you know how to counter this kind of Protoss game (im terran).

The protoss starts with range goons and and he keeps bulking units and then he expands a lil late but not too much, and he camps outside of my base with nearly ALL of his units and with several observers he see any possible drop attempt, he rally points his units to the exit of my base suddenly he starts expoint like HELL!, and when i scan this im pretty much in a hurry to stop him or else ill be overwhelmed so most of the time i grab like 8 SCVs in the front, all my tanks and vultures and Attack "NaDa Style" but since ALL of his units are waiting for me and he is expecting me to do this he rape my ass bigtime.

If i try to move his units back its pretty hard because if i siege with no mines enough and turrets he attacks and generally beat my ass, and if i start a turtle push from my main he will have an unstopabble economy.

So what do should i do?, i thinked about mass drop (4+dropships) to force him spread his units but its risky if he surrounds me with obs.
Im back, in pog form!
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
December 11 2003 17:00 GMT
#2
Don't try to do anything "Nada style"

Maybe you should build turrets to get his observers out of your base, then go cliff dropping with gols/tanks
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dork
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada2207 Posts
December 11 2003 17:07 GMT
#3
his units can only get so close...I'll assume it's LT so try to stick tanks on your cliff if you think the protoss is going to do that, the tanks with the extra range should distance the protoss a bit.

get your ebay up for turrets to kill his obs and if he's got all his units at your entrance try maybe to get an expansion secured some where else and maybe harass his main with tank/vul/gol drops to make him spread his units out
staring at the world through the rear view
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7219 Posts
December 11 2003 17:08 GMT
#4
macro better and or push slower to exp --;
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MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
December 11 2003 17:11 GMT
#5
just work on more harass, if he cannot build that many units due to low econ your in good shape, then after you have done this, match him for expos and go nada style and you should be ok
I want an igloo.
poland
Profile Joined February 2003
Poland956 Posts
December 11 2003 17:12 GMT
#6
i dont see how he can possibly do that vs your ledge advantage... 1 tank is enough to push his units far away from your base. Just do standard terran...?
i dont believe in mimes... do u?
Nextel
Profile Joined November 2003
United States159 Posts
December 11 2003 17:16 GMT
#7
baal u just need to play WAY more games. If a protoss is expoing everywhere he will have no units to stop a push. Oh also its a good idea to make factorys.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
December 11 2003 17:46 GMT
#8
frigin' newbies

I know exactly what you are talking about - good macro toss is like the bitch itself to stop.

Basicly you can rule out vulture harass, because every toss woth his $2 will have 2 cannons at every exp, but the key is still harass while slowpushing if his army match yours..do mass drops while pushing and genrerally be the gayest you can.
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GoSexyPerli
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1072 Posts
December 11 2003 18:15 GMT
#9
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My whole existence is flawed.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
December 11 2003 18:17 GMT
#10
yah
its hard to fight face to face, like nada style
you always get crushed
the best thing u can do is to do a gayest terran
harass
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Nextel
Profile Joined November 2003
United States159 Posts
December 11 2003 19:25 GMT
#11
good advice guy gay the player.
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10540 Posts
December 11 2003 20:27 GMT
#12
On December 12 2003 02:16 Nextel wrote:
baal u just need to play WAY more games. If a protoss is expoing everywhere he will have no units to stop a push. Oh also its a good idea to make factorys.


lol stfu nextel like you were good, or do you want me to remember how badly you were owned in my lil tournament?


i cant vult harass because his semi circle is so closed that the vults rarely will come out of there alive, i think ill kill obs and siege outside of his vision, maybe with the confussion i can win a lil advantage.
Im back, in pog form!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
December 11 2003 20:42 GMT
#13
simple 2 factory vulture kills what you described with ease.
you suck@bw k hf.
JAM THE FUCKER!
Sigur-Ros
Profile Joined November 2003
97 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-11 21:13:11
December 11 2003 21:10 GMT
#14
You should probably be pushing out faster than you already are to establish some map control. It's all about map control. Get a few tanks (6-8) a dozen vultures and start pushin.' Probably wanna defend your mins though because most good protosses drop and try to hurt your economy while you are busy pushin'
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 11 2003 21:12 GMT
#15
2 cannons buys time vs vulture harrass, it doesnt stop it
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
December 11 2003 21:23 GMT
#16
because cannons are the answer to all of life's questions, right?
JAM THE FUCKER!
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
December 11 2003 21:26 GMT
#17
2 cannons stops vults cold.
it stops it.
period.

what you clearly failed to understand that the issue of cannons is irrelevant because a protoss will not have them.

goons out.

vults around.

maybe goon blocking ramp.

but probably not.

no obs 100%.

g g.
JAM THE FUCKER!
surv
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium337 Posts
December 11 2003 22:13 GMT
#18
On December 12 2003 02:46 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
frigin' newbies

I know exactly what you are talking about - good macro toss is like the bitch itself to stop.

Basicly you can rule out vulture harass, because every toss woth his $2 will have 2 cannons at every exp, but the key is still harass while slowpushing if his army match yours..do mass drops while pushing and genrerally be the gayest you can.
Dont encourage that gayness
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Li.Echo
Profile Joined November 2003
United States122 Posts
December 11 2003 23:06 GMT
#19
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HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
December 11 2003 23:08 GMT
#20
baal, dont listen to any of these people, they dont know what they are talkign about. i cna help you but yoru question is way too broad, show me a rep and ill help you.
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