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On May 25 2008 18:48 Patrio wrote:
Just played a ZvT where I went lurker/ling with queens, I parasited his science vessels and he killed them with his marines instantly. He ended up killing 8 of his own science vessels :\
lol , what a noob
so the range on parasite is long enough to avoid any m&m that might be under the vicinity of the vessel?
its been so long since i used queen spells i've forgotten the range of some of the spells
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On May 25 2008 22:20 PobTheCad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2008 18:48 Patrio wrote:
Just played a ZvT where I went lurker/ling with queens, I parasited his science vessels and he killed them with his marines instantly. He ended up killing 8 of his own science vessels :\ lol , what a noob so the range on parasite is long enough to avoid any m&m that might be under the vicinity of the vessel? its been so long since i used queen spells i've forgotten the range of some of the spells
Yeah the range of parasite is huge, dont think he even saw my queen
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Funny strat ( do or die ) ; may not be new , but 'haven't heard about it , at least in some years
( less than 3 days registration , can't create new thread , so I post in this one because it's more or less about queen usage )
Just "kill" the cc while terran is at your door ^^ ( yes , I know this is a newbie game , but it's funny... )
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Maybe you should lurk for a little while longer That new thread lock is there for a reason. One you just demonstrated pretty clearly I think.
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On August 06 2009 01:06 Mzerg wrote:
Funny strat ( do or die ) ; may not be new , but 'haven't heard about it , at least in some years
( less than 3 days registration , can't create new thread , so I post in this one because it's more or less about queen usage )
Just "kill" the cc while terran is at your door ^^ ( yes , I know this is a newbie game , but it's funny... )
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I have to say this is the biggest comeback I have ever seen.
It's like the Zerg made the best possible move considering the position he was in and the Terran responded with a critical failure.
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'would be nice to see that with good players...
If someone would do it just to post a decent replay , thx in advance ^^
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On October 03 2007 01:19 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +What others have stated... getting a queen gives you another unit to focus on I'm pretty sure if one used Queens often enough it wouldn't affect their focus at all. I've used Queens with broodling and ensnare to great effectiveness before, but in most games that's not exactly a viable option. I'm suggesting is a random 100/100 from your pocket worth the investment? What are you really slowing down that's so imperative? Is there something more effective that totally replaces parasite, making it pointless to get anyway? Those were the questions, not, are you so noob you can't control one Queen every time you see it has 75 energy, and then hide it away again? We're talking maybe 10 actions total every time you see your queen with 75 energy, that's not busting anyones balls.
if queens started out with 125 energy instead of 75, then spawn broodling would become very viable as a part of the game. the timing would be that the queens would be ready to kick some tank ass for the first terran push.
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On August 06 2009 01:49 Polyphasic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2007 01:19 Chef wrote:What others have stated... getting a queen gives you another unit to focus on I'm pretty sure if one used Queens often enough it wouldn't affect their focus at all. I've used Queens with broodling and ensnare to great effectiveness before, but in most games that's not exactly a viable option. I'm suggesting is a random 100/100 from your pocket worth the investment? What are you really slowing down that's so imperative? Is there something more effective that totally replaces parasite, making it pointless to get anyway? Those were the questions, not, are you so noob you can't control one Queen every time you see it has 75 energy, and then hide it away again? We're talking maybe 10 actions total every time you see your queen with 75 energy, that's not busting anyones balls. if queens started out with 125 energy instead of 75, then spawn broodling would become very viable as a part of the game. the timing would be that the queens would be ready to kick some tank ass for the first terran push.
I think that most of the time ensnare is a much better choice, unless you are broodlinging a tank that is particularly hard to kill, such as one that has been D-matrixed or one that is very far up on a cliff you're trying to climb with hydra or something.
Queens don't start with 75 energy.
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On October 03 2007 02:06 NoDDiE wrote:
ensensare the spider mine , then lure it with ling and start running with it , while watching the mine following it ^^
you might run with the ling into the eco line , and watch spider mine finishing the job XD
now that sounds hilarious!
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On August 06 2009 02:41 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 01:49 Polyphasic wrote:On October 03 2007 01:19 Chef wrote:What others have stated... getting a queen gives you another unit to focus on I'm pretty sure if one used Queens often enough it wouldn't affect their focus at all. I've used Queens with broodling and ensnare to great effectiveness before, but in most games that's not exactly a viable option. I'm suggesting is a random 100/100 from your pocket worth the investment? What are you really slowing down that's so imperative? Is there something more effective that totally replaces parasite, making it pointless to get anyway? Those were the questions, not, are you so noob you can't control one Queen every time you see it has 75 energy, and then hide it away again? We're talking maybe 10 actions total every time you see your queen with 75 energy, that's not busting anyones balls. if queens started out with 125 energy instead of 75, then spawn broodling would become very viable as a part of the game. the timing would be that the queens would be ready to kick some tank ass for the first terran push. I think that most of the time ensnare is a much better choice, unless you are broodlinging a tank that is particularly hard to kill, such as one that has been D-matrixed or one that is very far up on a cliff you're trying to climb with hydra or something. Queens don't start with 75 energy.
they do with the upgrade
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your post is next to useless
you revived this thread for us to watch a noob rep that you wanted to show off.
post some constructive stuff, not just a replay with no description
And yes this is the strategy forum, but your post belongs in the blog section
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On August 06 2009 02:57 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2009 02:41 Chef wrote:On August 06 2009 01:49 Polyphasic wrote:On October 03 2007 01:19 Chef wrote:What others have stated... getting a queen gives you another unit to focus on I'm pretty sure if one used Queens often enough it wouldn't affect their focus at all. I've used Queens with broodling and ensnare to great effectiveness before, but in most games that's not exactly a viable option. I'm suggesting is a random 100/100 from your pocket worth the investment? What are you really slowing down that's so imperative? Is there something more effective that totally replaces parasite, making it pointless to get anyway? Those were the questions, not, are you so noob you can't control one Queen every time you see it has 75 energy, and then hide it away again? We're talking maybe 10 actions total every time you see your queen with 75 energy, that's not busting anyones balls. if queens started out with 125 energy instead of 75, then spawn broodling would become very viable as a part of the game. the timing would be that the queens would be ready to kick some tank ass for the first terran push. I think that most of the time ensnare is a much better choice, unless you are broodlinging a tank that is particularly hard to kill, such as one that has been D-matrixed or one that is very far up on a cliff you're trying to climb with hydra or something. Queens don't start with 75 energy. they do with the upgrade
50 without the upgrade, 62 with the upgrade.
Every spellcaster in the game follows this pattern, except the Dark Archon, which starts with 50 whether or not you have the upgrade. I know because I tested it. Just now.
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I would think that getting one queen in every ZvT could be useful. For infested command center purposes. When you pressure the terran with lings/lurkers and damage the cc forcing a lift off you could just hit the queen hot key and right click on the cc and wait for the magic to happen.
I would say this is the most pratical way to use a queen but I don't do it, off course, because I suck. But I think better players could really try this out.
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your post is next to useless
you revived this thread for us to watch a noob rep that you wanted to show off.
post some constructive stuff, not just a replay with no description
And yes this is the strategy forum, but your post belongs in the blog section
- "constructive stuff" : a fun strat , you will enjoy even if it happened not to work
- "replay with no description" : I said that it's about "killing" the command center pretty early when terran is going to attack you ; if you can't read it's not my fault...
- "your post belongs in the blog section" : a strategy doesn't belong to the strategy section ??? oh... I think YOUR posts belong to the "I am the one to know" section...
I can't see anything constructive in YOUR post
and reviving a thread about queen to talk about a strat that involves queen : why not ? plus , I think there are newly registered people around there , and they may be interested in reading all that stuff : you can't understand , you're so pro you don't need to talk about anything , do you ? what are you here for , please ?
you deserve to be banned I think.
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Ya really not liking this Mzerg guy...
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On August 06 2009 04:38 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Ya really not liking this Mzerg guy...
me neither....
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Actually I do get one queen in ZvTs just to parasite science vessels and to snipe command centers that have been lifted off. I might research ensnare in the odd game they go wraiths or I'm way ahead.
Two things that bother me however, is how easy it is to just forget about the queen somewhere and have it get irradiated, or that for about the same price of a queen, a Terran can research restoration to negate parasite.
For me the bottom line is that Queens are fun ^_^ Its satisfying every time to cast one of her spells or infest a CC. It's like casting feedback or lockdown - you could be losing the game, but you get a warm fuzzy feeling inside knowing it was all worth while to cast that one rare spell.
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