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! [Q] Getting a Queen every game? - Page 8

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Patrio
Profile Joined September 2007
Norway706 Posts
May 16 2008 21:47 GMT
#141
Someone pls post reps of games where queens has been used with greate sucsess in all mu
Zerg Bunker
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
May 20 2008 23:24 GMT
#142
Queens and hold position-lurkers would call for a great ambush.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
May 20 2008 23:33 GMT
#143
along with queens for zerg, if pros started playing the late game like the cpu does (mass 'missions' for individual ghost 'squads' in dropships all around the map, lockdowning and nuking constantly), I reckon the level of starcraft late game play could just completely overwhelm what it's like today.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
May 20 2008 23:36 GMT
#144
Ive only used Queens in ZvP and ZvT more common in ZvT as a way to snipe cc and zvp a way to snipe a toss that favors storming alot
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-20 23:50:18
May 20 2008 23:45 GMT
#145
I fully endorse this thread. I hate storms and how they mess up ANY zug army. If Queens prove effective HT-snipers or such, I won't feel bad playing protoss :-P I might even consider switching race. Zug is very interesting indeed.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
May 20 2008 23:54 GMT
#146
I have had some success using queens along with a 3 hatch hydra build,

the only problem is broodlings takes such a lot of energy : ( you need to get your queens out pretty early to charge them up in time! but using them to snipe the HT's makes your hydras so much more powerful.
: o )
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
May 21 2008 01:58 GMT
#147
i always wondered about this. certainly when compared to overlord upgrade, a queen pales. but then agian, if you can use parasite multiple times on somewhat important units, the opponent is forced to throw that unit away. so if you keep it alive the queen might "pay for itself"... the other poster brings up a good point about actions.


i donno, i think it's worth it, even if you do ensnare... a group of m&m's ensnared and all dying sure beats using swarm like 5 times and only being able to claw at them. i donno.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
May 21 2008 02:40 GMT
#148
Do you know what's awesome? Parasiting critters. They're random, but 99.9% of players never highlight critters so they work as ninja spies who always go around ignored!
this is my quote.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 02:50:04
May 21 2008 02:46 GMT
#149
On May 21 2008 10:58 gwho wrote:
if you can use parasite multiple times on somewhat important units, the opponent is forced to throw that unit away.

Terran can always research restoration for medics, and in zvp you can't go hive that fast (no need for expensive queens nest yet) that it would be viable. last time zerg made couple queen vs me I just maelstormed them and gg-_-

On May 21 2008 10:58 gwho wrote:
i donno, i think it's worth it, even if you do ensnare... a group of m&m's ensnared and all dying sure beats using swarm like 5 times and only being able to claw at them. i donno.

ensare does not save your expensive lurkers from tanks. you need swarm or you are just dead vs T.


On May 21 2008 11:40 Ozarugold wrote:
Do you know what's awesome? Parasiting critters. They're random, but 99.9% of players never highlight critters so they work as ninja spies who always go around ignored!

Hehe, but what if you are playing vs reach? there's no critters then.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
May 21 2008 03:40 GMT
#150
On May 21 2008 11:46 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2008 10:58 gwho wrote:
if you can use parasite multiple times on somewhat important units, the opponent is forced to throw that unit away.

Terran can always research restoration for medics, and in zvp you can't go hive that fast (no need for expensive queens nest yet) that it would be viable. last time zerg made couple queen vs me I just maelstormed them and gg-_-

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2008 10:58 gwho wrote:
i donno, i think it's worth it, even if you do ensnare... a group of m&m's ensnared and all dying sure beats using swarm like 5 times and only being able to claw at them. i donno.

ensare does not save your expensive lurkers from tanks. you need swarm or you are just dead vs T.


Show nested quote +
On May 21 2008 11:40 Ozarugold wrote:
Do you know what's awesome? Parasiting critters. They're random, but 99.9% of players never highlight critters so they work as ninja spies who always go around ignored!

Hehe, but what if you are playing vs reach? there's no critters then.

isn't that xellos?
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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
May 21 2008 03:49 GMT
#151
no it was reach
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 21 2008 03:57 GMT
#152
On May 21 2008 12:40 Wizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2008 11:46 Piste wrote:
On May 21 2008 10:58 gwho wrote:
if you can use parasite multiple times on somewhat important units, the opponent is forced to throw that unit away.

Terran can always research restoration for medics, and in zvp you can't go hive that fast (no need for expensive queens nest yet) that it would be viable. last time zerg made couple queen vs me I just maelstormed them and gg-_-

On May 21 2008 10:58 gwho wrote:
i donno, i think it's worth it, even if you do ensnare... a group of m&m's ensnared and all dying sure beats using swarm like 5 times and only being able to claw at them. i donno.

ensare does not save your expensive lurkers from tanks. you need swarm or you are just dead vs T.


On May 21 2008 11:40 Ozarugold wrote:
Do you know what's awesome? Parasiting critters. They're random, but 99.9% of players never highlight critters so they work as ninja spies who always go around ignored!

Hehe, but what if you are playing vs reach? there's no critters then.

isn't that xellos?


I'm pretty sure it was Reach.

I think if you're playing Reach anyways, you're in trouble.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=25917

There's the original newspost, I think. The other 9 incidents mentioned are pretty memorable as well. Most of the other mentions of the game involve people not knowing the name of the zerg.

The only progame I can find is Chojja versus Nada in the Ace match of some teamleague (KTF versus Pantech) but there's no vod for it in TLPD
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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
May 21 2008 06:38 GMT
#153
Really the application of queens can only be usefull at lower levels besides cc infesting always is a time savior...saver like ht snipeing i think brood is range of 9 unless its a well cliffed area where you can roam around also the zerg needs air superiority which is more so challanged then ever before atlest in pvz not so much tvz of else queens are just faster ovies one can shoot down
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
dat[fury]
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines129 Posts
May 21 2008 07:32 GMT
#154
I think some of the less known progamers (not like Jaedong, Savior or July)use it in their games to kill some of defenses or even the tanks that accompany marines. I think if a popular player used it like Jaedong or Luxury it can be popular and many people will imitate it also
I will watching for it
En Taro Tassadar!!! Die you Terrans
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-24 16:18:37
May 24 2008 16:17 GMT
#155
Am I the only one who's looked through all these Queen replays?

http://www.replayhome.com:8080/sc/replaysearch.php?ScReplayPlayerGroup=queen_ensnare&ScReplayPlayerGroupRace=0

http://www.replayhome.com:8080/sc/replaysearch.php?ScReplayPlayerGroup=queen_spawnbroodling&ScReplayPlayerGroupRace=0

Also, has anyone else tried using queens with mutas and ranged/speed hydras versus protoss?
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inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
May 24 2008 17:00 GMT
#156
Queens are used so rarely that I think most people have given up on it. Yet, it can be used very well! For example, in ZvP, when P gets a huge number of corsairs, there is really no way to kill them (providing he has good micro against hydras). What I do in that case is ensnare them and then take them out with hydras.
There is nothing cuter than a zergling when it has just started taking crack
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-25 01:21:24
May 25 2008 01:20 GMT
#157
queens r decent vs T just for infestation of cc..saves time and annoys all the scvs trying to repair
fuck lag
omfghi2u2
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States831 Posts
May 25 2008 01:56 GMT
#158
I think queens + hyrdas rape bc;s.

I dont usually play pros (I am not a pro either), but when I go ZvT, and the Terran starts to make bc's, I start to research ensnare and get a queen running.

I think ensnaring BC's is an effective way to slow down their rate of fire and what not.

But, I am not a pro so dont flame me.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
May 25 2008 02:12 GMT
#159
On May 25 2008 10:56 omfghi2u2 wrote:
I think queens + hyrdas rape bc;s.

I dont usually play pros (I am not a pro either), but when I go ZvT, and the Terran starts to make bc's, I start to research ensnare and get a queen running.

I think ensnaring BC's is an effective way to slow down their rate of fire and what not.

But, I am not a pro so dont flame me.


If Terran goes BCs might as well get Defilers and plague-rape them then finish them off with some swarm hydras or something
this is my quote.
Patrio
Profile Joined September 2007
Norway706 Posts
May 25 2008 09:48 GMT
#160
Just played a ZvT where I went lurker/ling with queens, I parasited his science vessels and he killed them with his marines instantly. He ended up killing 8 of his own science vessels :\
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