I think its 4 and they would have to be on there asap, that sacrifices your econ and if your gonna go all in you might as well rush with all your probes anyways because hes gonna try and stop your probes from killing it.

anyways gg between me and loud 0:1 for now, I gotta get ready for work. More games later.

Breavman

Sweden598 Posts

July 31 2007 05:11 GMT

#26

Since you can't build in the middle, tank pushes can be stopped with dts. Scan from one cc runs out fast and there is not enough gas to build vessels. Of course there are vultures but then you make cannons at entrance of your base and at one other where you put an exp. Teching to dts can be hard though. I think the marine + scv attack is often the best bet for terran in tvp, more dangerous than a later tank push.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

July 31 2007 05:27 GMT

#27

breavman delete your post before i slap you.

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United States228 Posts

July 31 2007 06:43 GMT

#28

On July 31 2007 09:57 NatsuTerran wrote:
I don't have any reps, but the way toss usually beats me in late game is storming all my rines, and then rushing zeal goon at my tanks. You need either vults or rines to keep toss infantry off of your tanks, and with bood bath's center being so compact, I never have room to dodge storms.

Once the support units are gone, the tanks quickly fall.

Sorry I didn't see this post earlier. I think if they tech to storm too quickly you could kill them with marine+scv attack. But if they tech reasonalby you have time to instead make lots of tanks and keep them spread out, spanning back into your base. Position them to be as anoying as possible, shooting across the caps. The center isn't so small that you have to have your marines all clumped up too. To manage a storm he will have to engage at the same time with troops and any attack the toss makes is probably going to hurt him more than you, unless he has alot more units, which shouldn't be the case.

Also Breavman, while I completely disagree with you I don't think you should delete your post, you provide reasons to backup your statement. The terran can use mines in the center as well as scan, sure theoretically toss can pump dts faster than you can regen scans, but thats a waste of money for toss, and you could just make another cc anyways.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

July 31 2007 06:46 GMT

#29

Terran will usually have turrets that can see at least to the edge of the bridges and mines around like 90% of the time. Besides, Once I see a toss going DT tech I can easily afford to make another in base CC and mine the side (2 scanners). They wil lalways have scanner juice too, godd terran will scout with other methods (scv,ebay,barracks) and save scans for detection.

If I see a toss making nonstop DTs or going Arbys I will often make a vessel too if necessary.

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

July 31 2007 06:48 GMT

#30

I won't comment on anything other than the fact that pvp on blood bath is all about 4 gate zealot into cannon at choke then tech

If you try to tech vs a good player with excellent micro you will be killed by zealots before it will do you any good 95% of the time.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

July 31 2007 07:19 GMT

#31

On July 31 2007 15:48 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
I won't comment on anything other than the fact that pvp on blood bath is all about 4 gate zealot into cannon at choke then tech

If you try to tech vs a good player with excellent micro you will be killed by zealots before it will do you any good 95% of the time.

lol, sup EchoOfRain. I told you I sucked at PvP BB lol.

flag

United States228 Posts

July 31 2007 07:28 GMT

#32

here was rep of that game http://darrenks.com/temp/flagP_charlie_RZ.rep

edit: from my experience pvp tech usually pays off, possibly I'm not playing aggressive enough opponents though, but maybe not, we shall see.

TheFoReveRwaR

United States10657 Posts

July 31 2007 07:43 GMT

#33

Edit: Err weird..don't know how that happened

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

August 01 2007 09:20 GMT

#34

I broke the thread ><

TheMango

United States1967 Posts

August 01 2007 10:02 GMT

#35

I'd love to see any good BB reps either one of you have (flag/charliemurphy)

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United States228 Posts

August 01 2007 11:58 GMT

#36

Ok I will try to remember to upload good replays as I play them, hard to find good opponents in public games, so msg me if anyone wants to play (loud-assassin on useast/west)

alphablend

647 Posts

August 01 2007 12:07 GMT

#37

I suppose I could post some very useful information here, I am a total noob now. But at what point I was a somewhat feared blood bath player

I ran into you today flag on bnet before I saw this thread, might as well post a replay of it:

rep ID number on battlereports: 32471

http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=32471

TheMango

United States1967 Posts

August 01 2007 12:21 GMT

#38

On August 01 2007 21:07 alphablend wrote:
I suppose I could post some very useful information here, I am a total noob now. But at what point I was a somewhat feared blood bath player

I ran into you today flag on bnet before I saw this thread, might as well post a replay of it:

rep ID number on battlereports: 32471

LINK FOR REPLAY

I was actually surprised you won that game when flag expoed much earlier than you. I'm thinking he could have kept you contained you longer to one base and won :o

flag

United States228 Posts

August 02 2007 00:31 GMT

#39

Hey, yeah that was an interesting game between me and alphablend. I could use more practice against the wall build, not many terrans use it. I have some ideas for what to do differently next time, but I'd like to keep them a surprise

Here are 2 more reps of me v a random terran. These show how typical pvt games go usually for me.
http://www.darrenks.com/temp/1pvt.rep
http://www.darrenks.com/temp/1pvt2.rep

This guy was a decent player, but you can tell he doesn't play blood bath much, supply depot first is very difficult to survive with.

PissedOffEmo

Canada777 Posts

August 02 2007 01:16 GMT

#40

charlie vs flag bo5 bb GO