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If you try to tech vs a good player with excellent micro you will be killed by zealots before it will do you any good 95% of the time.Disagreed ive beat 4 gate zealot with teching plenty of times goons w/ range can just attack and run all fucking day. A shitload or zealots running around that cant do any damage are pointless.
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TheGreatOne
United States534 Posts
Disagreed ive beat 4 gate zealot with teching plenty of times goons w/ range can just attack and run all fucking day. A shitload or zealots running around that cant do any damage are pointless. | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On August 10 2007 08:14 TheGreatOne wrote: Disagreed ive beat 4 gate zealot with teching plenty of times goons w/ range can just attack and run all fucking day. A shitload or zealots running around that cant do any damage are pointless. Have you ever actually tried 1v1 a decent protoss player on bb? Probably not. | ||
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TheGreatOne
United States534 Posts
On August 10 2007 08:32 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: \Have you ever actually tried 1v1 a decent protoss player on bb? Probably not. Lmao where do you get your basis that I havent played a good player. I hope its not from what I said then because your the fucking moron if so. A "decent" player would fucking laugh at you for thinking you have to keep producing zealots 15 minutes into the fucking game. Do you not have any concept of timing what-so-ever? 4 GATE PVP OWNS ALL LMAOOO Btw I have not only "tried" playing protoss players but I've actually seen the victory screen. Something I think you've only seen screenshots of. | ||
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TerransAreWeak
China17 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On August 10 2007 13:33 TerransAreWeak wrote: Lmao who the fuck even plays on BB, it's a stupid map. Even my dog can make a map like that. No fun at all, compared to LT or Luna. Best poster in the world. | ||
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MeOwTheMinXi
Australia59 Posts
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garmule2
United States376 Posts
A "decent" player would fucking laugh at you for thinking you have to keep producing zealots 15 minutes into the fucking game. A decent player wins BB far before 15 minutes. The bases are so close that workers and early units are extremely imbalanced. the art of bb is 5pool...doesnt matter how good u are survival rate is 50/50... lol, 6 lings get shredded by workers alone... | ||
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SiMPL
Australia94 Posts
Its all I play on east, happy to see a thread about it. My id could have been SiMPL or TERRANGENERAL maybe even `poo or R3FLEX if you have been around a long time. | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On August 10 2007 08:44 TheGreatOne wrote: \ Lmao where do you get your basis that I havent played a good player. I hope its not from what I said then because your the fucking moron if so. A "decent" player would fucking laugh at you for thinking you have to keep producing zealots 15 minutes into the fucking game. Do you not have any concept of timing what-so-ever? 4 GATE PVP OWNS ALL LMAOOO Btw I have not only "tried" playing protoss players but I've actually seen the victory screen. Something I think you've only seen screenshots of. Good job making yourself look like an ass. Your attempt at insulting me by saying I've "only seen screenshots of the victory screen" is pathetic. If you you can get a cyber core, range, and lots of dragoons out while your opponent is massing zealots without making cannons at your choke (or a huge advantage in the beginning), you are playing against poor players. Period. Edit: Messed up the quote | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
I really think it was someone smurfing, because they were really bm and kept saying shit like 5pool never fails etc. I stopped it 2/3 times (the only reason I lost to it the first time is because I made depot late then rine came out and got unluckily trapped by lings.) www.battlereports.com Rep #'s. 32486 ZvT stop 5 pool and then stop follow-up fast lurker. 32488 ZvZ stop 5 pool with 9pool and even wasting lings to delay him while I make more hatches. I do make a sunken just because I know hes going to rush but you can actually stop this just by stacking drones and you take a few drone losses then lings come out and still ahead. I did lose a game to this guy PvP but only because I did the first fatal mistake in bb by not scouting my own base. And PvP is like my worst MU on this map. | ||
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.kaz
1963 Posts
On August 10 2007 17:26 CharlieMurphy wrote: Here is some reps of games I played just today. This guy was all about the rush and cheese, he had pretty good game sense and timing, micro was decent too. 140~ apm no hotkeys for some reason though, which made me think it was someone smurfing. I really think it was someone smurfing, because they were really bm and kept saying shit like 5pool never fails etc. I stopped it 2/3 times (the only reason I lost to it the first time is because I made depot late then rine came out and got unluckily trapped by lings.) www.battlereports.com Rep #'s. 32486 ZvT stop 5 pool and then stop follow-up fast lurker. 32487 ZvZ stop 5 pool with 9pool and even wasting lings to delay him while I make more hatches. I do make a sunken just because I know hes going to rush but you can actually stop this just by stacking drones and you take a few drone losses then lings come out and still ahead. I did lose a game to this guy PvP but only because I did the first fatal mistake in bb by not scouting my own base. And PvP is like my worst MU on this map. You uploaded the same replay twice =/. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
32488 there | ||
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.kaz
1963 Posts
 .Also, i'd like to ask, in the previous replays, do you not wall with rax + depot so it doesn't mess up gas or something? | ||
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Response
United States1936 Posts
On August 10 2007 13:33 TerransAreWeak wrote: Lmao who the fuck even plays on BB, it's a stupid map. Even my dog can make a map like that. No fun at all, compared to LT or Luna. ..oh the irony | ||
RaGe
Belgium9949 Posts
On August 10 2007 08:44 TheGreatOne wrote: \ Lmao where do you get your basis that I havent played a good player. I hope its not from what I said then because your the fucking moron if so. A "decent" player would fucking laugh at you for thinking you have to keep producing zealots 15 minutes into the fucking game. Do you not have any concept of timing what-so-ever? 4 GATE PVP OWNS ALL LMAOOO Btw I have not only "tried" playing protoss players but I've actually seen the victory screen. Something I think you've only seen screenshots of.  | ||
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flag
United States228 Posts
My personal opinion is that in PvP if both sides micro equally well, and one side techs and the other doesn't. If the non tech side attacks when the tech side is weakest then the non tech will win. However in a real game if they prevent you from scouting you cannot know when that weakest time is or even if they are teching at all. So basically both strategies are viable but you need to mix it up and be unpredictable. | ||
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Brutalisk
794 Posts
On August 10 2007 08:44 TheGreatOne wrote: A "decent" player would fucking laugh at you for thinking you have to keep producing zealots 15 minutes into the fucking game. Do you not have any concept of timing what-so-ever? 4 GATE PVP OWNS ALL LMAOOO Not true. edit: See flag's post. Also, there isn't much space to maneuver goons on BB, so (Speed)zealots and Reavers are often a better choice. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On August 11 2007 00:15 Brutalisk wrote: Not true. edit: See flag's post. Also, there isn't much space to maneuver goons on BB, so (Speed)zealots and Reavers are often a better choice. I can say from personal experience that speed lots and archons works 100000x better than goons. It can also save you gas to get upgrades faster than the goon masser. Man I wish I still had that rep, one of the best/funnest pvp i ever played on bb. edit- Flag this thread just needs more replays to shut these idiots up. | ||
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TheGreatOne
United States534 Posts
On August 10 2007 16:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Good job making yourself look like an ass. Your attempt at insulting me by saying I've "only seen screenshots of the victory screen" is pathetic. If you you can get a cyber core, range, and lots of dragoons out while your opponent is massing zealots without making cannons at your choke (or a huge advantage in the beginning), you are playing against poor players. Period. Edit: Messed up the quote So all the good players get cannons just to tech? Looks like your playing the wrong players, not me bud. All you have to do is wall your entrance with zealots then its safe to tech. If they try to attack they will just lose more than you and then you can win. Please play this fucking map before you ramble on about shit you dont even know or understand. I just dont understand how these people think 4 gate is viable or even works against good players. I just get ranged goons and continue to mix in zealots and beat it every time with good micro. | ||
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