! [G] Zerg Mechanics Thread - Page 2

On January 29 2007 09:45 j0ehoe wrote:
(fuck i copied my post and then copied something else over it -_-)

two comments/questions

i think your view on defs is a little inaccurate. i understand your 2nd post, about how you dont want less skilled zergs to think they are pros with it. maybe you should elaborate on when to use them? obviously you dont want to speed to them asap like zvt, but theres a million uses for them. they force the toss into zeal/ht/chon (if they werent there already), chon sucks under it, you can toss in lurks and they now kick ass. and, no one mentioned, if youre behind (or a sunk/spore/lurk whore) you can swarm all over you defense and absolutely fend off a huge attack.

On January 29 2007 08:31 {88}iNcontroL wrote:


Read the rest of the very comment you quoted

On January 29 2007 08:41 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
rarely if ever will making defilers cost you the game.

On January 29 2007 07:40 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
My advice was also more geared towards the fact that MOST z's (non korean) could use the attacking unit and not the (for most cases)useless spell caster. Such things tend to slow us down and make us ineffective. I feel a lot of Z's missuse the defiler in ZvP and in doing so not only waste resources but they also waste precious multitasking time.

Hullah your post agreed with mine only you said it in a lot more words <3

On January 29 2007 09:45 j0ehoe wrote:
(fuck i copied my post and then copied something else over it -_-)

two comments/questions

i think your view on defs is a little inaccurate. i understand your 2nd post, about how you dont want less skilled zergs to think they are pros with it. maybe you should elaborate on when to use them? obviously you dont want to speed to them asap like zvt, but theres a million uses for them. they force the toss into zeal/ht/chon (if they werent there already), chon sucks under it, you can toss in lurks and they now kick ass. and, no one mentioned, if youre behind (or a sunk/spore/lurk whore) you can swarm all over you defense and absolutely fend off a huge attack.

the other thing is your view on 9pool vs fe. someone posted here recently to do this and got shredded to bits by posters. i understand how you can get a quick win if they nexus first, but if they cannon and hold you off, arent you at a serious economic disadvantage? youre basically playing catch up. i understand its good for proxy too, but so is 12 pool. my question is, in each of these situations, wouldnt 12pool be a better route to take? why do you see 9pool > 12?

On January 29 2007 14:31 IdrA wrote:

its much better to learn how to use them instead of just abandoning them, it may slow you down while you're getting used to it but once you are defilers are so strong it is well worth it. (not you as in you, you as in z's in general)

On January 29 2007 14:47 5HITCOMBO wrote:


Well... Ultras are quite strong as well, and much easier to use. It usually doesn't make too much of a difference unless, like iNc said, they have mass goon, which ultras aren't quite as strong against, or if you have a very low econ and need to be extremely cost efficient, in which case, strong defiler use is cheaper than strong ultra use, especially because strong ultra use usually involves a lot more gas than strong defiler use.

But that comment on swarming your buildings doesn't seem to work - swarm doesn't affect buildings; but plague can fend off a huge attack in much the same fashion .

On January 29 2007 12:49 Detonate wrote:
I do not really understand these "general strategy guides"

i dont mean to sound rude, but do we really want to turn people into mindless zombies?

I personally feel it is these kinds of things that encourage people to play on the same maps because they can stick to there safe guidelines and stay away that maps that require thought.

just a thought.

On January 29 2007 14:19 Detonate wrote:
yea because it takes a lot of brainpower to run ultra/ling around