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rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
August 20 2005 02:11 GMT
#41
On August 20 2005 10:48 MarcX wrote:
Perhaps you can play 2/3 of your matchups with 2gate, you can play 3/3 with 1gate.

Just go like 16gas on 1gate (2z first).
You don't need two zealots before gas. 12 gas, 13 zealot, 16 pylon, 17 zealot (if you need it).
Clayman
Profile Joined July 2005
Poland34 Posts
August 20 2005 06:51 GMT
#42
2 gate is stupid for pvt, u can easly defend pvp with 1 gate tech with zealot, just add second gate about 21/25, u should defend this, in PvZ u can make 1 gate ->>> corsairs, if he atack u with lings u must use probs
DuSkie
Profile Joined November 2004
Czech Republic451 Posts
August 20 2005 08:21 GMT
#43
On August 17 2005 21:43 nArAnjO wrote:
pylon gate pylon zeal gas ^^ easy


yup, i totaly agree, u can defend from toss or zerg, or u can quite quckly tech vs T
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
August 20 2005 09:11 GMT
#44
Let me put it this way: you can play any matchup efficiently from one gate. At any far position, one gate will do just fine, and is most logical. If you spawn at 12 or 3, for example, on LT, then you should plan on two gates, as 2/3 of your amtchups will require two gates. In all honesty, you can probe rush PvT 12v3 at 10 supply after making a gate, and take down their supply depot at the wall, then return your probes to mining, gas up, slap your core down, and go from there. If you can make them pull off SCV's from mining, and manage to take down that depot (using probes and your first zealot or so), they'll be pretty far behind. Don't stop making units, though, as whenever I do that, they bunker me in, and you lose a game you should have won.
Echo
Profile Joined July 2005
United States435 Posts
August 20 2005 12:24 GMT
#45
On August 19 2005 14:55 rpf289 wrote:
1gate vs. Zerg doesn't leave you dead. Just 20 core, and go from there. Versus a Zerg of your caliber, then yeah, you'd know to just go like 3hatch speedling. :/

i cant wait to 5-0 you zvp
aka EchoOfRain/T.Sqd)RaiN on uswest
LastOnesLeft
Profile Joined August 2005
United States36 Posts
August 20 2005 14:18 GMT
#46
lol? u go pylon gate zeal pylon gas....and u shudda scouted them by now to kno ur next step
simply the best~
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
August 20 2005 16:11 GMT
#47
Echo, you're going down. :D

LastOnesLeft, that build is pointless when you can just 17 core.
NegativeAPM
Profile Joined May 2005
United States14 Posts
August 21 2005 06:33 GMT
#48
I think that PvR you should always just 1 gate wall with lots and then tech because no matter what you need tech, plus if they rush use probes;). Then, based on what race they are you can pick your tech...i think fast tech like this is good PvZ also, not just 2 gate because theres Zerg.
I am what I am, nothing more nothing less.
Svampis
Profile Joined April 2005
Sweden109 Posts
August 21 2005 08:56 GMT
#49
depends on map.. but if I choose p I do 1 gate + zeal tech as a standard.. If I random P vs another random.. I very often do fe.

note: when I play random I don't play very serious
MAYBE IM WRONG FOR FLAMING WUFAN BUT IM MOTHER RFUCKING REKRUL GET USED TO IT
Hollow
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Canada2180 Posts
August 22 2005 10:53 GMT
#50
it's very simple, just always scout closest spot... after pylon.. this way the zerg would be far enough you would have 2 lots and core
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