EPTvery bad vs 2 fact vulture and potentially dead (but it can win, too) vs fast starport.
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
very bad vs 2 fact vulture and potentially dead (but it can win, too) vs fast starport. | ||
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labcoated
Canada392 Posts
 edit: it makes sense that a good player like grrrr would invent this build, because no one is going to try to 2 fac vult him | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
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SCFraser
Canada1534 Posts
vs 1 fact cc you can maybe delay his expo, but you can definitely double expo yourself with the dt giving you map control for a bit. this is decent vs gundam if you micro your dt well and put a goon on your ramp. and pump more dt/goon to hold if he gundams you want to expo at ur nat though i think, not another main. but ya like everyone said you die vs 2-3 fact vult. | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
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SCFraser
Canada1534 Posts
plus 12/3 hes more likely to push. | ||
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SCFraser
Canada1534 Posts
On May 27 2005 12:27 GroT wrote: i don't understand how you can play bw like that, pray that he wont do 2fac vults or die. What do you do when he does go 2fac vults and you lose immediately? "that was a nice 7 minutes of my time, gg" .. ? if he 2 fact vults you just have to switch to goon immediately. you might be able to hold another main with a couple of goons on each ramp. + maybe a cannon. | ||
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pfff
Belgium1352 Posts
vs gundam this is equal for terran and toss, terran will probably see it coming before moving out and will just put some mines in his choke and expo. its really nice vs those 6 rines 2 fac tank into 2 fac vult pushes vs fast expo its really really good, terran will have trouble getting his expo up if you harass well, and it takes a while before he can move out, you should have youre nat and the other main secure by the time his vult ups finish. vs drop ship, you really are in trouble, but if the terran isnt careful (happened to me a few time), his turrets might be a little bit too slow. i think if the terran first harasses with his ship, then adds a second fac before expo and pumps pure vult out of both, he will be able to kill youre other main with his ship and vults, then he can expo himself. | ||
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SmOKeS
United States46 Posts
most of your good terran will have a turrent at his cc and at his ramp but they wont have them at their facs/depos...with some micro u can cause alot of problems for the terran....like if they did 1 fac expo u can catch them upgradin speed/mine for vults and force them to cancel it by attackin the machine shop and 4 dt can kill a turrent extremly fast so if they dont have units close by u can still get their scvs....also by gettin the fast shuttle with your dt u can safely expo to your nat without worryin about the cliff i stopped usin this build cause 2 fac vults can ruin your day i wouldnt die to the vults but i would have to wait for several goons to protect my probes and end losin 10 mins in to superior macro | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
other than that its simply the other use of DTs. DTs are great for defense, its not just offense as most people seem to use them. Even after they get scan you can make them waste it with good dt control and harss timing. | ||
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8882
2718 Posts
I remember Ive played 20games one day - and in 20 the protoss players DT dropped... So I think most terrans expect it | ||
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SA-kcabsiozteh
United States396 Posts
It beat me badly, he maxed very very fastly I used a 2 fact 4 vult rush with dual ups and by the time i had my mineral only he raped me with mass zeal/goon/ht His dt was under my cc so i couldn't expo so it made me get my academy earlier to kill it, but i think of this now and i could sent scv and used siege tank splash to kill it it's a really strong pvt build, you guys should try it | ||
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SmOKeS
United States46 Posts
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Sorrow_eyes
United States1007 Posts
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VdP]EpiphaNy
United Kingdom992 Posts
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EchoOfRain
United States516 Posts
On May 27 2005 12:27 GroT wrote: i don't understand how you can play bw like that, pray that he wont do 2fac vults or die. What do you do when he does go 2fac vults and you lose immediately? "that was a nice 7 minutes of my time, gg" .. ? Did you even read my post Grot? Like I said i dont use it when i see 2 facts building, its not very hard to keep your probe alive if you know what you're doing... | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28727 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9949 Posts
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BloodBath
United States409 Posts
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BlasTyTossY
Portugal47 Posts
On May 27 2005 04:43 Liquid`Drone wrote: this is > fast expand for sure. very bad vs 2 fact vulture and potentially dead (but it can win, too) vs fast starport. I couldn't have said it better. | ||
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