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iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States907 Posts
February 05 2024 13:40 GMT
#9561
On January 30 2024 22:55 evilfatsh1t wrote:
wait....you hit b on ladder by watching your screen for 10-30 seconds at a time?
i havent played any ladder on sc:r but wtf? is ladder actually that bad

Must be a Protoss player
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey319 Posts
April 09 2024 00:41 GMT
#9562
On May 03 2018 01:39 Liquid`Drone wrote:
devourers beat wraiths by themselves. devourers + mutas completely destroy them.

Devourers have low damage output themselves. However, they make mutalisks both live much longer and deal significantly more damage. Like a mutalisk firing at a wraith fleet with no upgrades for either player deals 9+3+1 = 13 damage. However if the wraith fleet has 9 acid spores, it will instead deal 18+12+10 = 40 damage. And in addition the wraiths end up firing way slower. I haven't tested this specifically, but I think 1 muta will beat 3 wraiths if the wraiths all have 9 acid spores.

I counted it, too. +3 upgrades make it 12(+9)+4(+9)+1.33(+9)=44. I think Queen's ensnare also count as an acid spore counter from what I recall.
Turrican
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2260 Posts
April 09 2024 05:38 GMT
#9563
just picked bw up on a shitty laptop, i play fullscreen sd graphs, everything turned off, fps 80~190...

everything is fine other than long loading screens...

last few days when i macro ex: 4w5w6w7w f2 click click f3 click click , 0p9p ... shit gets slow , not the game but the ui, startsbdoing my actions but with long delay one by one, and i cant do shit till that secuense of commands ends..

any idea how to fix?

i macro zealots with W, deal with it
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6550 Posts
April 09 2024 15:56 GMT
#9564
On April 09 2024 14:38 XenOsky wrote:
just picked bw up on a shitty laptop, i play fullscreen sd graphs, everything turned off, fps 80~190...

everything is fine other than long loading screens...

last few days when i macro ex: 4w5w6w7w f2 click click f3 click click , 0p9p ... shit gets slow , not the game but the ui, startsbdoing my actions but with long delay one by one, and i cant do shit till that secuense of commands ends..

any idea how to fix?

i macro zealots with W, deal with it

Laptop specs ? When you open task manager what your pc is using the most ? If it is graphics then try to lower windows resolution.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2260 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-09 18:57:13
April 09 2024 18:56 GMT
#9565
On April 10 2024 00:56 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2024 14:38 XenOsky wrote:
just picked bw up on a shitty laptop, i play fullscreen sd graphs, everything turned off, fps 80~190...

everything is fine other than long loading screens...

last few days when i macro ex: 4w5w6w7w f2 click click f3 click click , 0p9p ... shit gets slow , not the game but the ui, startsbdoing my actions but with long delay one by one, and i cant do shit till that secuense of commands ends..

any idea how to fix?

i macro zealots with W, deal with it

Laptop specs ? When you open task manager what your pc is using the most ? If it is graphics then try to lower windows resolution.



will try later tonight

thanks, hopefully my fam will deliver my desktop in a few weeks t.t
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States907 Posts
April 10 2024 08:48 GMT
#9566
On April 10 2024 03:56 XenOsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2024 00:56 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On April 09 2024 14:38 XenOsky wrote:
just picked bw up on a shitty laptop, i play fullscreen sd graphs, everything turned off, fps 80~190...

everything is fine other than long loading screens...

last few days when i macro ex: 4w5w6w7w f2 click click f3 click click , 0p9p ... shit gets slow , not the game but the ui, startsbdoing my actions but with long delay one by one, and i cant do shit till that secuense of commands ends..

any idea how to fix?

i macro zealots with W, deal with it

Laptop specs ? When you open task manager what your pc is using the most ? If it is graphics then try to lower windows resolution.



will try later tonight

thanks, hopefully my fam will deliver my desktop in a few weeks t.t


Try running it in Linux on Wine, if it is still slow, there's no solution other than getting a faster computer
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3352 Posts
April 10 2024 10:29 GMT
#9567
On April 09 2024 14:38 XenOsky wrote:
just picked bw up on a shitty laptop, i play fullscreen sd graphs, everything turned off, fps 80~190...

everything is fine other than long loading screens...

last few days when i macro ex: 4w5w6w7w f2 click click f3 click click , 0p9p ... shit gets slow , not the game but the ui, startsbdoing my actions but with long delay one by one, and i cant do shit till that secuense of commands ends..

any idea how to fix?

i macro zealots with W, deal with it


you could put a FPS limiter within BW, sounds like overheating
Horang2 fan
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2260 Posts
April 12 2024 00:23 GMT
#9568
formated my pc, uninstalled al non necesary microsoft shit, updated drivers and now is working just fine...

thanks guys
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3352 Posts
April 12 2024 01:31 GMT
#9569
On April 12 2024 09:23 XenOsky wrote:
formated my pc, uninstalled al non necesary microsoft shit, updated drivers and now is working just fine...

thanks guys


Glad to hear it!
Horang2 fan
Comodore
Profile Joined July 2013
Brazil49 Posts
April 17 2024 22:24 GMT
#9570
Hey guys... I'm just back to BW after long time. I'm Protoss player around low C level and I'm having a hard time dealing with 12 nexus in PvP, specially when last scouted. I feel like any decision I make does'nt do much to close the gap. If I add 2nd gate and robo w/o expanding, when I push is just too even ( he has a few more units and I have reavers but w/o expansion) and I'm not very good with reaver micro. If I try to catch up in eco I feel like I'm in a very passive position and I don't know how to pressure the opponent.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3352 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-17 22:40:21
April 17 2024 22:34 GMT
#9571
On April 18 2024 07:24 Comodore wrote:
Hey guys... I'm just back to BW after long time. I'm Protoss player around low C level and I'm having a hard time dealing with 12 nexus in PvP, specially when last scouted. I feel like any decision I make does'nt do much to close the gap. If I add 2nd gate and robo w/o expanding, when I push is just too even ( he has a few more units and I have reavers but w/o expansion) and I'm not very good with reaver micro. If I try to catch up in eco I feel like I'm in a very passive position and I don't know how to pressure the opponent.


Is your reaver proxied? That helps a lot. Otherwise you can expand yourself (maybe double expand even if you keep denying their scout as they will be a bit in the dark). Dt drop also an option. In general the usual follow up to 12 nexus is some cannons and many gates for goons. So you could buy time for yourself going dt while you quickly take 3 bases. If you expand yourself not too late, you retain gas and tech advantage and if you force a few cannons you re good. Like last scout isnt ideal but it s playable. Note if you expand you are a bit passive but so are they since they also expanded. It somewhat depends if they went nexus 2 gate or nexus gate forge

You can also yolo it going 3 gate quickly and snipe cannons (and force more) while you expand yourself.
Horang2 fan
Comodore
Profile Joined July 2013
Brazil49 Posts
April 18 2024 03:23 GMT
#9572
Thanks WGT-Baal!!! I didn't try proxy robo because the 12 nexus protoss usually sends 5 zea to my base and I'm busy trying to not lose probes but I'll give it a try in ladder these days.

I also didn't try DTs because I tend do avoid DT builds. I'm trying to practice with reaver to raise my reaver micro to be useful someday. It's hard to keep the macro but at least I'm out of my comfort zone trying to keep my macro and paying attention to the shuttle. I think DT will be the best answer to 12 nexus for me. I can have map control while closing the gap in eco.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2260 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-11 04:34:55
May 11 2024 04:19 GMT
#9573
guys, could it be possible for us to be so annoying towards blizzard on social media that they actually fix the turn rate shit on bnet?

i mean, is it even technically possible to fix that shit? and if that shit is possible, is there any chance in the world that if we annoy the shit out of blizzard every day till they fix this bs tr thing they could start actually working on it?

i mean if its possible we could at least try

just saying

if not...

+ Show Spoiler +
mb ... fuck bnet, massive foreign switch to sb community campaign??


StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10126 Posts
May 11 2024 06:16 GMT
#9574
On May 11 2024 13:19 XenOsky wrote:
guys, could it be possible for us to be so annoying towards blizzard on social media that they actually fix the turn rate shit on bnet?

i mean, is it even technically possible to fix that shit? and if that shit is possible, is there any chance in the world that if we annoy the shit out of blizzard every day till they fix this bs tr thing they could start actually working on it?

i mean if its possible we could at least try

just saying

if not...

+ Show Spoiler +
mb ... fuck bnet, massive foreign switch to sb community campaign??



What's wrong with it?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2260 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-11 23:41:47
May 11 2024 23:37 GMT
#9575
On May 11 2024 15:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2024 13:19 XenOsky wrote:
guys, could it be possible for us to be so annoying towards blizzard on social media that they actually fix the turn rate shit on bnet?

i mean, is it even technically possible to fix that shit? and if that shit is possible, is there any chance in the world that if we annoy the shit out of blizzard every day till they fix this bs tr thing they could start actually working on it?

i mean if its possible we could at least try

just saying

if not...

+ Show Spoiler +
mb ... fuck bnet, massive foreign switch to sb community campaign??



What's wrong with it?



if u from SA like me, it has unplayable latency vs asia/kr players
very bad latency vs eu and east coast na

basically one has to hope for Latin gamer with good internet (this is like 50% of latam users other half just lags cause of shitty net) or west coast NA players, thats the only way to get good latency games for me at least.

if we could at least get tr20 high or tr16 low most games, that wouldnt be so terrible imo, but as i like control heavy strats, it fucking makes me go crazy having to play 2 gate builds pvp or non reavers strats vs terran t_____t
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10126 Posts
May 12 2024 00:13 GMT
#9576
On May 12 2024 08:37 XenOsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2024 15:16 Jealous wrote:
On May 11 2024 13:19 XenOsky wrote:
guys, could it be possible for us to be so annoying towards blizzard on social media that they actually fix the turn rate shit on bnet?

i mean, is it even technically possible to fix that shit? and if that shit is possible, is there any chance in the world that if we annoy the shit out of blizzard every day till they fix this bs tr thing they could start actually working on it?

i mean if its possible we could at least try

just saying

if not...

+ Show Spoiler +
mb ... fuck bnet, massive foreign switch to sb community campaign??



What's wrong with it?



if u from SA like me, it has unplayable latency vs asia/kr players
very bad latency vs eu and east coast na

basically one has to hope for Latin gamer with good internet (this is like 50% of latam users other half just lags cause of shitty net) or west coast NA players, thats the only way to get good latency games for me at least.

if we could at least get tr20 high or tr16 low most games, that wouldnt be so terrible imo, but as i like control heavy strats, it fucking makes me go crazy having to play 2 gate builds pvp or non reavers strats vs terran t_____t

Isn't this just a server/connectivity issue and not a TR issue? Like, wires that Blizzard uses to connect people and such as opposed to actual TR programming? Maybe tec27 can weigh in or someone else knowledgeable >_>
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Comodore
Profile Joined July 2013
Brazil49 Posts
May 12 2024 02:08 GMT
#9577
On May 12 2024 08:37 XenOsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2024 15:16 Jealous wrote:
On May 11 2024 13:19 XenOsky wrote:
guys, could it be possible for us to be so annoying towards blizzard on social media that they actually fix the turn rate shit on bnet?

i mean, is it even technically possible to fix that shit? and if that shit is possible, is there any chance in the world that if we annoy the shit out of blizzard every day till they fix this bs tr thing they could start actually working on it?

i mean if its possible we could at least try

just saying

if not...

+ Show Spoiler +
mb ... fuck bnet, massive foreign switch to sb community campaign??



What's wrong with it?



if u from SA like me, it has unplayable latency vs asia/kr players
very bad latency vs eu and east coast na

basically one has to hope for Latin gamer with good internet (this is like 50% of latam users other half just lags cause of shitty net) or west coast NA players, thats the only way to get good latency games for me at least.

if we could at least get tr20 high or tr16 low most games, that wouldnt be so terrible imo, but as i like control heavy strats, it fucking makes me go crazy having to play 2 gate builds pvp or non reavers strats vs terran t_____t



Dude, I'm from Brazil and the worst TR I have is against Peru, Bolívia and KR. Against KR SOMETIMES I can have a playable game but Peru and Bolívia is TR8 for sure. The best TR for me is playing against NA I can have TR 20 or 16 and for 3 minutes or so is TR24 in some games. I really can't understand how I have the worst lag agains SA.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-12 02:44:07
May 12 2024 02:29 GMT
#9578
Well why can't the SA community come together and just Q 1v1 on SB? If everyone switches there won't be long Q times, also if other players (non SA) see that there's a steady amount of players on SB that might motivate others to try it out as well.

SB's always improving/getting new features so it's gonna keep getting better, tec is working on rewriting BW's code completely so we can implement new features way easier, you guys can be a part of the process and give us feedback on stuff you think is important. Also we can update the map pool whenever we want, you guys can give input there too (could have 7, 9 or 11 maps, we can add tourney specific maps or fun maps that the majority of ppl wanna play on etc).

In regards to the latency issue, I'm not an expert but I remember tec saying that something's wrong with Bnet's dynamic turn rate and that it creates unnecessary lag/latency.

In general I just think there's barely anyone working on the game so things are deteriorating cus Bnet's code is so buggy that doing basic updates (like updating seasons/the map pool) causes issues. Maybe it's creating server issues, dunno tho just a guess. Bnet definitely requires a certain amount of people to be there just for maintenance and I don't think that's happening anymore.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Comodore
Profile Joined July 2013
Brazil49 Posts
May 12 2024 03:03 GMT
#9579
On May 12 2024 11:29 TT1 wrote:
Well why can't the SA community come together and just Q 1v1 on SB? If everyone switches there won't be long Q times, also if other players (non SA) see that there's a steady amount of players on SB that might motivate others to try it out as well.

SB's always improving/getting new features so it's gonna keep getting better, tec is working on rewriting BW's code completely so we can implement new features way easier, you guys can be a part of the process and give us feedback on stuff you think is important. Also we can update the map pool whenever we want, you guys can give input there too (could have 7, 9 or 11 maps, we can add tourney specific maps or fun maps that the majority of ppl wanna play on etc).

In regards to the latency issue, I'm not an expert but I remember tec saying that something's wrong with Bnet's dynamic turn rate and that it creates unnecessary lag/latency.

In general I just think there's barely anyone working on the game so things are deteriorating cus Bnet's code is so buggy that doing basic updates (like updating seasons/the map pool) causes issues. Maybe it's creating server issues, dunno tho just a guess. Bnet definitely requires a certain amount of people to be there just for maintenance and I don't think that's happening anymore.


I like SB but when I login I never find anyone online. Everybody is afk.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-12 04:02:17
May 12 2024 03:51 GMT
#9580
On May 12 2024 12:03 Comodore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2024 11:29 TT1 wrote:
Well why can't the SA community come together and just Q 1v1 on SB? If everyone switches there won't be long Q times, also if other players (non SA) see that there's a steady amount of players on SB that might motivate others to try it out as well.

SB's always improving/getting new features so it's gonna keep getting better, tec is working on rewriting BW's code completely so we can implement new features way easier, you guys can be a part of the process and give us feedback on stuff you think is important. Also we can update the map pool whenever we want, you guys can give input there too (could have 7, 9 or 11 maps, we can add tourney specific maps or fun maps that the majority of ppl wanna play on etc).

In regards to the latency issue, I'm not an expert but I remember tec saying that something's wrong with Bnet's dynamic turn rate and that it creates unnecessary lag/latency.

In general I just think there's barely anyone working on the game so things are deteriorating cus Bnet's code is so buggy that doing basic updates (like updating seasons/the map pool) causes issues. Maybe it's creating server issues, dunno tho just a guess. Bnet definitely requires a certain amount of people to be there just for maintenance and I don't think that's happening anymore.


I like SB but when I login I never find anyone online. Everybody is afk.


That's the problem, everyone plays on bnet because everyone's on bnet, you find games fast. That's the main thing bnet has going for it (for foreigners, the kor player pool is huge so you'll always find a game whenever u wanna play, ppl play at random times). Of course there's a % of the foreign player pool that has to play on bnet because that's where they can get the best practice vs high level kors, but that's a very small %.

If you randomly come on SB and Q, don't find a game, you end up leaving without coming back, that experience is continuous. There needs to be a mass migration of players in order to maintain momentum, that's the only way we can build up. It's impossible to get things going when people randomly join 1 time every 3 months and expect to find a game then never come back.
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