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On December 23 2013 23:59 sjukungen1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 04:39 Birdie wrote:On December 19 2013 03:39 Larvator wrote:
Is there a guide for zergs how they need to react to make sure they don't die against 2 gate protoss (how many drones I need to stop protoss when I'm playing 9/over/12 pool/12 hatch; should I save larvae until I find out what protoss build is; do I need to cancel hatch; how to react if gates spotted on protoss main/natural/ or proxy etc)? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434554 is the best one probably. I really don't like this opening. Your hatch gets blocked to eternity if the protoss scouts you early. You stack up to 600-700 minerals with a simple pylon block, not worth it. Best IMO and what the koreans are using -> overpool 11 hatch 14 extractor 13 hatch
9 pool
Hatch at 11
3 lings and 1 drone
save larva until you know what your opponent is doing.
What i do after is
+ Show Spoiler +If 2 gate in main you can take your third with your 3rd Hatchery, prioritize ling speed then take your drones of gas. With ling speed + 3 hatches you can easily deny him taking a fast expansion after his initial attack and at the same time defensively make lings if he just masses and goes for a second attack, and ull just be ahead because ur on 3 bases. Otherwise the goal is to get up to 5 hatches and meanwhile time 4 hydralisks speed upgraded only, 2 at each base to deny corsair harass and maybe a sunk at each base if he tries to sneak in a dt. Put your drones back on gas when you place down your 5th hatchery and take your second gas, tech to lair and place down a evo chamber, start hydra production get the range and lurker upgrade, include mutas in the later game to snipe HTs and get into the lategame aspect
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On December 23 2013 23:59 sjukungen1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 04:39 Birdie wrote:On December 19 2013 03:39 Larvator wrote:
Is there a guide for zergs how they need to react to make sure they don't die against 2 gate protoss (how many drones I need to stop protoss when I'm playing 9/over/12 pool/12 hatch; should I save larvae until I find out what protoss build is; do I need to cancel hatch; how to react if gates spotted on protoss main/natural/ or proxy etc)? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434554 is the best one probably. I really don't like this opening. Your hatch gets blocked to eternity if the protoss scouts you early. You stack up to 600-700 minerals with a simple pylon block, not worth it. Best IMO and what the koreans are using -> overpool 11 hatch 14 extractor 13 hatch
If he scouts you early you can hide drone, because your first drone will see his probe coming in. If he still manages to block you, you have a second drone already there to help kill the probe. If he STILL manages to block you, your pool finishes a very short time later than overpool, so you're not really delayed.
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Hey guys I didn't want to make a new thread for this but is anyone having lag issues with iccup? I was playing on iccup with my laptop using windows 7 without much lag at all but on my new pc with windows 8, it seems that i am lagging on every single game that I join on iccup. I tried playing in window mode and all but it doesn't seem to have solved the problem. I got the MCA launcher but it seems that the new version is buggy as well. Any ideas?
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On December 24 2013 08:56 JMave wrote:
Hey guys I didn't want to make a new thread for this but is anyone having lag issues with iccup? I was playing on iccup with my laptop using windows 7 without much lag at all but on my new pc with windows 8, it seems that i am lagging on every single game that I join on iccup. I tried playing in window mode and all but it doesn't seem to have solved the problem. I got the MCA launcher but it seems that the new version is buggy as well. Any ideas?
Well all i can say to this is i myself have latency issues on iccup, thats one reason i dont play bw at all
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Can a D-ranks player pull off Sair/Reaver? Cuz his opponents will be D-Ranked...or is it just too hard even against even skill?
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On December 25 2013 03:31 traceurling wrote:
Can a D-ranks player pull off Sair/Reaver? Cuz his opponents will be D-Ranked...or is it just too hard even against even skill?
I'm sure its harder then other styles but there's no reason you can't do it.
Why does Iccup launcher change my mouse accel? I can't go on iccup unless I want to get used to a different mouse setting!
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you on win8? ive noticed my mouse speed changing too. and in my case its the game itself, not any launcher
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I'm on windows 7.
It changes when I use Iccup launcher but not when I use Chaos Launcher. Changing the mouse settings doesn't seem to help.
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On December 24 2013 08:56 JMave wrote:
Hey guys I didn't want to make a new thread for this but is anyone having lag issues with iccup? I was playing on iccup with my laptop using windows 7 without much lag at all but on my new pc with windows 8, it seems that i am lagging on every single game that I join on iccup. I tried playing in window mode and all but it doesn't seem to have solved the problem. I got the MCA launcher but it seems that the new version is buggy as well. Any ideas?
I've been having latency issues with ICCup for a couple of months also. It seems to prevent people from joining my games and slows down the game a bit. It randomly goes to 300 ~ 350. Happens in two different cities with two different net providers so I guess the ball is not in my court.
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On December 26 2013 04:21 McRatyn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2013 08:56 JMave wrote:
Hey guys I didn't want to make a new thread for this but is anyone having lag issues with iccup? I was playing on iccup with my laptop using windows 7 without much lag at all but on my new pc with windows 8, it seems that i am lagging on every single game that I join on iccup. I tried playing in window mode and all but it doesn't seem to have solved the problem. I got the MCA launcher but it seems that the new version is buggy as well. Any ideas? I've been having latency issues with ICCup for a couple of months also. It seems to prevent people from joining my games and slows down the game a bit. It randomly goes to 300 ~ 350. Happens in two different cities with two different net providers so I guess the ball is not in my court.
When I log on to iccup I always have 80-90 ping but as soon as I host a game it goes up to about 350 for some reason, the game runs just fine though and almost never lags, I have no idea what the deal with ping is on iccup but it seems very inconsistent.
Also people quite frequently accuse me of lagging even though the game is running perfectly on low latency...usually happens at the end of the game when they've lost 
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ping to server never matters.
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Whats the proper way to 5rax TvZ?
Should you be cutting scvs to get the 5rax + ups? Cause with constant SCV production early game you really cant afford all of it ive noticed
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On December 25 2013 03:31 traceurling wrote:
Can a D-ranks player pull off Sair/Reaver? Cuz his opponents will be D-Ranked...or is it just too hard even against even skill?
Go for it mate.
SC is all about enjoying yourself.
I find that when I do this build zerg tends to marco really hard and then just crush me, the marco of the D rank zergs will be weaker im sure.
You can try harass w/ reaver + shuttle then do a timing attack off 2 bases.
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On December 30 2013 04:32 arb wrote:
Whats the proper way to 5rax TvZ?
Should you be cutting scvs to get the 5rax + ups? Cause with constant SCV production early game you really cant afford all of it ive noticed
I think there needs to be some gas optimization.
remove 3rd scv from gas when 100 gas is mined, and mine gas again when 40 supply?
at 36 add 2nd rax, 41 add 3 more to a total of 5. this isn't the only variation
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it's better if you open with 1 rax FE -> 5 rax
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is there any benefit to playing people who are a lot better than you? Or is it better to play against someone who is near your level? fish is unforgiving and sometimes I feel like switching to ICCUP for easier games. but should I just stick to fish?
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depends how much better they are than you. if they are good enough to beat you with just vultures until they get nukes, then no. playing against stronger opponents will make you improve a lot quicker than people your level
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On December 31 2013 14:08 evilfatsh1t wrote:
depends how much better they are than you. if they are good enough to beat you with just vultures until they get nukes, then no. playing against stronger opponents will make you improve a lot quicker than people your level
ha. no i havent been nuked or scouted to death yet. i can usually hang on until late game but good players will run away with the game at this point by controlling the map and taking all the bases. so hard to move out against maxed toss or mine crazy and tanked terran. it would be nice to have better than 40% win rate, losing sucks.
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well its to be expected. if you had a 60% winrate you wouldnt be in this thread asking for help. i much prefer to play against people i know i cant beat than people i know i can beat consistently. maybe its just me
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