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UPro-BW
Profile Joined September 2012
81 Posts
April 22 2013 19:59 GMT
#2721
"skzlime was able to un-infest a Command Center in his game against Bakuryu in the ICCup Clan League Tournament[2]"

how?
"3t4t5t6v7v8v9v" - iloveoov
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
April 22 2013 20:44 GMT
#2722
On April 23 2013 04:59 UPro-BW wrote:
"skzlime was able to un-infest a Command Center in his game against Bakuryu in the ICCup Clan League Tournament[2]"

how?

I'm pretty sure he just repaired it (They even covered it in one of his TLS interviews) The CC went back to green health while the queen was inside, so the infestation was not succesful.
BW fighting!
RednBlack
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada24 Posts
April 23 2013 00:56 GMT
#2723
On April 22 2013 17:02 thezanursic wrote:
What do you guys think about planting mines under the trees on fighting spirit when facing hydras.

Would it make much of a difference?


The player might not see them, but the hydras probably will.
What is this "sc2" you speak of?
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 23 2013 01:44 GMT
#2724
Isn't there a miss chance if things are behind doodads? Or am I just making that up?
brood war for life, brood war forever
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
April 23 2013 01:50 GMT
#2725
There is. Doodads are pretty useful. I sometimes put mines under trees but I wouldn't recommend it as something to do as part of your game plan.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
April 23 2013 01:51 GMT
#2726
yes there is a misschance so hydras are more likely to die.
if u manage to lift the cc slightly before the queen goes in, the queen first will go out again and then go in again to start infesting it. (but im not sure about the exact lift timing)
if u manage to repair the cc over 749 hp while the queen is busy infesting it. it wont be infested.
RednBlack
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada24 Posts
April 23 2013 02:23 GMT
#2727
Is the miss chance for doodads the same as up hill miss chance?
What is this "sc2" you speak of?
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
April 23 2013 13:22 GMT
#2728
yes its the same ~50% miss chance
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
April 23 2013 13:47 GMT
#2729
Testing actually shows the number to be different...can't remember the exact number maybe it's on BWAI...my impression is that the number was 59%?
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
April 23 2013 13:53 GMT
#2730
http://code.google.com/p/bwapi/wiki/StarcraftGuide
53,125% hit chance
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
April 24 2013 11:13 GMT
#2731
When should I take my base if by chance saw a citadel and I'm not sure if he is DT rushing or going for a speedlot all in.

I can expand right away (with my 2 gate goon robo) and be safe against the DTs with an obs out in time, but if he goes speedlot I would die taking the base at that time (If he just made 3 more gates and all-ined me)

So I'm curious when would the best time be to expand in this situation (Obviously I am entierly safe after my reaver is out, but what would be the right time?)

This never occured to be prior to writting this post should I just hold the ramp if he speedlot all ins me and cancel my Nexus if he does and not even bother holding the natural area. I mean I saw a citadel it's certainly not reaver so I'm in no danger of getting contained.

What do you guys think?
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RednBlack
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada24 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 01:35:08
April 25 2013 01:34 GMT
#2732
Why are all the girls that play bw now zerg?
What is this "sc2" you speak of?
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 02:12:49
April 25 2013 02:11 GMT
#2733
On April 25 2013 10:34 RednBlack wrote:
Why are all the girls that play bw now zerg?


There was one Protoss user who the commentators said was a woman in Gambits cup, and who played last week. She won a PvZ with speed zealots. The Zerg lost his zergling at her natural or something like that. Any way, he forgot to track the zealots' movement, and ended up having them run in to his third.

I don't remember the nick name.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
April 25 2013 02:48 GMT
#2734
On April 25 2013 10:34 RednBlack wrote:
Why are all the girls that play bw now zerg?

My friend plays Protoss...but she's E level...
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 25 2013 04:05 GMT
#2735
Is the "terran buildings crushing interceptors" bug still in the game?
brood war for life, brood war forever
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
April 25 2013 04:54 GMT
#2736
On April 24 2013 20:13 thezanursic wrote:
When should I take my base if by chance saw a citadel and I'm not sure if he is DT rushing or going for a speedlot all in.

I can expand right away (with my 2 gate goon robo) and be safe against the DTs with an obs out in time, but if he goes speedlot I would die taking the base at that time (If he just made 3 more gates and all-ined me)

So I'm curious when would the best time be to expand in this situation (Obviously I am entierly safe after my reaver is out, but what would be the right time?)

This never occured to be prior to writting this post should I just hold the ramp if he speedlot all ins me and cancel my Nexus if he does and not even bother holding the natural area. I mean I saw a citadel it's certainly not reaver so I'm in no danger of getting contained.

What do you guys think?

If you 2 gate goon before robo vs someone who gets a cit on 1 gate, you can pressure their ramp with your 2 gate of goons to get more intel. On maps like Jade or HBR you can even kill them with goon micro if they're trying to go speedlots, since you can start kiting them before they have speed or a critical mass of zealots.

If they got goon range and goons and are thus safe against your 2 gate goon, you can try expanding on your obs while leaving a probe near their base. If it sees high zealot count moving out, just cut probes/goons and throw up a simcity PvZ style.

I've found holding the ramp vs speedlot tends to work great. I mixup speedlots semi-often in PvP and whenever a guy gets robo and holds their ramp, they take no damage and proceed to have a significant probe/tech/scouting/harass lead against me whereas I just have a bunch of dinky zealots and perhaps a slightly faster expo. As defender be sure to exploit the threat of your reaver and the scouting information of your obs to keep him running in circles.

I mainly have experience with some pretty allin builds of 1 base speedlot at a really low level, where its success is predicated on the enemy reacting incorrectly, so don't take my word for it; experiment yourself.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
April 25 2013 15:54 GMT
#2737
On April 25 2013 13:05 Crunchums wrote:
Is the "terran buildings crushing interceptors" bug still in the game?

Yes.
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yB.TeH
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany419 Posts
April 25 2013 15:55 GMT
#2738
On April 25 2013 11:11 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 10:34 RednBlack wrote:
Why are all the girls that play bw now zerg?


There was one Protoss user who the commentators said was a woman in Gambits cup, and who played last week. She won a PvZ with speed zealots. The Zerg lost his zergling at her natural or something like that. Any way, he forgot to track the zealots' movement, and ended up having them run in to his third.

I don't remember the nick name.


werdum? XD
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
April 25 2013 20:15 GMT
#2739
On April 26 2013 00:55 Qeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 11:11 vOdToasT wrote:
On April 25 2013 10:34 RednBlack wrote:
Why are all the girls that play bw now zerg?


There was one Protoss user who the commentators said was a woman in Gambits cup, and who played last week. She won a PvZ with speed zealots. The Zerg lost his zergling at her natural or something like that. Any way, he forgot to track the zealots' movement, and ended up having them run in to his third.

I don't remember the nick name.


werdum? XD

fold?
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
April 25 2013 20:18 GMT
#2740
What are your personal relative timings in PvZ as protoss?
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