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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6641 Posts
On March 06 2013 07:52 traceurling wrote: I was asking for equal ground as in both main and natural are low/low or high/high ground...and lots of popular 4player maps are rotational; Fighting Spirit, Dante's Peak, La Mancha, Gemlong, Luna, Sniper Ridge, Jade etc. Fortress? ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/maps/435_Fortress%20SE.jpg) | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
azlea, katrina maybe? there are some positional imbalances on a lot of older rotational maps, i think newer maps don't really have any issues though but on some of the older maps it's really noticable; like TvP on luna is way easier for T if you're counterclockwise from P since you can just slowpush through your 3rd and siege up their nat | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:28 BisuDagger wrote: This sounds like a game that was on Neo Medusa, I'll start looking into it. It is not this one here, http://www.gomtv.net/classics3/vod/642 im looking for a different one | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On March 07 2013 07:49 Pucca wrote: Is 2 rax FE viable in TvP? SO I've tried doing the seige exspand but honestly it seems I cannot pull it off no matter how much I practice it. I tried moving to a bunker expsand Rax ---> Bunker ---> CC but then I become overwhelmed by goons by the time I get my tank out. So maybe if I 2 rax FE no? No. | ||
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JJSawry
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
are you getting broken before your tank is out? are you losing tanks or something? siege expand is way easier to pull off than 1rax fe | ||
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
On March 07 2013 09:38 Pucca wrote: What is Saron Zerg style or "Saren Lurker"? TSL1 Chill uses to describe a build zerg is going for he said it in this VOD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSXKgk3Gzwk&list=PLHnkhby108CWYF4qfjtVoa_cN65sAenRe For future reference, it's easier to look up on liquipedia when all you're asking is "what is this strat" http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Sauron_(strategy) Basically macro up and drone hard early game with only enough units to hold off attacks, then when you have a muscly economy get triple upgrades and spam hydra lurker ling -> spam ultra long defiler and a move shit and just overwhelm the Protoss forces | ||
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Capresis
United States518 Posts
On March 07 2013 07:49 Pucca wrote: Is 2 rax FE viable in TvP? SO I've tried doing the seige exspand but honestly it seems I cannot pull it off no matter how much I practice it. I tried moving to a bunker expsand Rax ---> Bunker ---> CC but then I become overwhelmed by goons by the time I get my tank out. So maybe if I 2 rax FE no? Send us some replays please. We'll help you make siege expand work. | ||
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thezanursic
5498 Posts
On March 07 2013 07:49 Pucca wrote: Is 2 rax FE viable in TvP? SO I've tried doing the seige exspand but honestly it seems I cannot pull it off no matter how much I practice it. I tried moving to a bunker expsand Rax ---> Bunker ---> CC but then I become overwhelmed by goons by the time I get my tank out. So maybe if I 2 rax FE no? Amm go watch an Idra TSL game and copy paste what he is doing. Now I say IdrA because thats almost the only thing he ever did. 2 rax FE not really, but + Show Spoiler + | ||
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traceurling
United States1240 Posts
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Capresis
United States518 Posts
On March 07 2013 17:03 traceurling wrote: I was wondering if anyone has an unprotected copy of Luna the Final that I can play around with? I do not have an unprotected Luna, but if you are willing to download some things you can unprotect it and most other maps yourself. I downloaded three unprotectors and only could get this one to work: Unprotector 2. I tried it on an older iCCup map, I am assuming it will work on all of them. Then to open it I had to use Scmdraft2. Supposedly Scmdraft2 has an unprotector built in but I couldn't figure it out. Maybe my antivirus ate some essential files and you can get it to work, idk. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
What I would really like to know is what I should have done in the situation I was in. I played defensively and waited for hiim to attack, but I still got rolled. Was it right to try and get ultras or should I have gone defilers? How could I have done better with my defenses so that I won? Was my opponent a good player or terribad? Damn if he was terribad, lol what does that make me... All criticism is good! Please help! Here is the replay. http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=53029 | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
On March 07 2013 21:07 Golgotha wrote: D- Zerg here playing on Fish. I just had a ZvP on Fighting Spirit which I felt like I had but lost. Should have defended my bases better because I was 3 base to his 2. But damn. I really fucked up my engagements and lost many lurkers. The BO I followed was just the overpool opening. After that I pretty much just wing it and try to do what I've seen the TLS Zergs do in the VODs. Just playing by feel I guess and I know my mechanics, build order, and micro need work. But if there is something that I could have done to really seal that game, I would love to know. What I would really like to know is what I should have done in the situation I was in. I played defensively and waited for hiim to attack, but I still got rolled. Was it right to try and get ultras or should I have gone defilers? How could I have done better with my defenses so that I won? Was my opponent a good player or terribad? Damn if he was terribad, lol what does that make me... All criticism is good! Please help! Here is the replay. http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=53029 protoss was about max C-/C probably. overpool is not really a build, just an opening (in zvt/zvp) never just wing a build in zvp, because there are just so many things u can do wrong. if ur playing a macro oriented build, u should first focus on macro and then microing in the macro-free time. u played mass lair style with a sub-par economic build, apart from changing your build or randomly all inning u had nearly no chance to win. please get a zvp build, it will save about 3 years time. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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pebble444
Italy2503 Posts
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