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ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
November 14 2004 10:49 GMT
#1
i just saw julyzerg vs artofterran vod
holy crap art is really good.

the announcers called him the terran with no fear.
he was attacking a zerg that had dark swarm and lurkers HEAD ON with marines and firebats and won.

wow never seen this before.
any ways is the firebat considered to be melee damage or does only the splash damage work in the swarm like the splash from the archons
thx
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
November 14 2004 10:56 GMT
#2
I think it's considered melee damage, so it will deal full damage inside dark swarm.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-14 11:01:30
November 14 2004 11:01 GMT
#3
Yeah, I think it's full damage. Fbats own against zeal and basically all Z ground except for Ultras, thats why pros use em so much in TvZ ^^

Refer to Nada's BBQ pimpest play. =o
my-baby
Profile Joined November 2004
United Kingdom176 Posts
November 14 2004 11:02 GMT
#4
the splash damage works inside the dark swarm... basically, all close range attack works inside the dark swarm, thats why lings are so deadly with dark swarm.. lurker will work in dark swarm for obvious reasons
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ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
November 14 2004 11:16 GMT
#5
On November 14 2004 20:02 my-baby wrote:
the splash damage works inside the dark swarm... basically, all close range attack works inside the dark swarm, thats why lings are so deadly with dark swarm.. lurker will work in dark swarm for obvious reasons


only the splash damage
or the full damage??
Micro.Macro.Scouting.Harassment.
AK-Nemesis
Profile Joined December 2002
2005 Posts
November 14 2004 11:44 GMT
#6
the full dmg
Nemesis has left the building~
worst.player
Profile Joined July 2004
625 Posts
November 14 2004 11:50 GMT
#7
and doesnt the fire hurt both lings and lurks (if lings on top of burrowed lurks)??

16 damage? Goddamn that's a lot. bats are terribly underused... ;(
ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
November 14 2004 12:33 GMT
#8
thx wanted to know if its full or only splash
archons do only splash in it
yeafirebats own.
the only thing they cant take is the ultralisks.
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RP80
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden64 Posts
November 14 2004 13:16 GMT
#9
ahk:Bats do concussive damage so there are alot of things besides ultras they don't work good against. Bats for lings/drones, rines for everything else
Firazpiral
Profile Joined May 2004
59 Posts
November 14 2004 13:30 GMT
#10
bats cannot handle lurks or hydras :[
HiaTuS.
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia235 Posts
November 14 2004 13:57 GMT
#11
or mutas ^_^
My SC skillz brings da girls to the yard, and their like its better than yoas, dam right its better than yoas, I could teach you, but ill have to charge...
j-man
Profile Joined August 2004
United States153 Posts
November 14 2004 14:22 GMT
#12
if you ever get the chance vs. some noob zergs it is fun to occupy their swarm with your firebats/ mm/ tank and use it agains them.

but yeah, firebats are good to have because they are one of the few terran units that can effectively deal damage to lurks under the cover of the swarm due to their melee nature.
Fignuts!
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17398 Posts
November 14 2004 15:01 GMT
#13
Hehehe, did you also know that fbats can hit from the cliff if the enemy is close enough?
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choader
Profile Joined June 2003
United States487 Posts
November 14 2004 15:12 GMT
#14
On November 14 2004 23:22 j-man wrote:
if you ever get the chance vs. some noob zergs it is fun to occupy their swarm with your firebats/ mm/ tank and use it agains them.

but yeah, firebats are good to have because they are one of the few terran units that can effectively deal damage to lurks under the cover of the swarm due to their melee nature.


They're actually the _only_ terran unit that can hit a lurker under a swarm. Spider mines don't count
Failure by design.
Jansports
Profile Joined November 2004
United States80 Posts
November 14 2004 15:33 GMT
#15
On November 14 2004 19:49 ahk-gosu wrote:
i just saw julyzerg vs artofterran vod
holy crap art is really good.

the announcers called him the terran with no fear.
he was attacking a zerg that had dark swarm and lurkers HEAD ON with marines and firebats and won.

wow never seen this before.
any ways is the firebat considered to be melee damage or does only the splash damage work in the swarm like the splash from the archons
thx


Firebats Deal All their damage as Splash, Since splash works under Dswarm All of Firebats damage counts ; )

I play P ?!
HiFi
Profile Joined February 2004
United States518 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-14 15:44:32
November 14 2004 15:44 GMT
#16
yeah, after watching artterran vs july i was about to post a link about this. the game was absolutely amazing and i've never seen any pro terran use firebats under swarm so effectively. for many instances i thought artterran lose for sure, but dang! my mouth was wide open after watching this game ^^
dont spam ya apm, no good 4 ya health
HiaTuS.
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia235 Posts
November 14 2004 16:26 GMT
#17
somebody got a link for tihs vod?
My SC skillz brings da girls to the yard, and their like its better than yoas, dam right its better than yoas, I could teach you, but ill have to charge...
badme
Profile Joined February 2004
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 16:29:15
November 14 2004 20:27 GMT
#18
[ErOs]~InCoGniTo
Profile Joined June 2004
Italy513 Posts
November 14 2004 20:47 GMT
#19
artofterran is exactly what his name says and yes fb's do 100% under swarm
Unless My Pockets Get Fed.. You n Your Family are Dead
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-14 20:53:34
November 14 2004 20:53 GMT
#20
On November 15 2004 00:12 choader wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2004 23:22 j-man wrote:
if you ever get the chance vs. some noob zergs it is fun to occupy their swarm with your firebats/ mm/ tank and use it agains them.

but yeah, firebats are good to have because they are one of the few terran units that can effectively deal damage to lurks under the cover of the swarm due to their melee nature.


They're actually the _only_ terran unit that can hit a lurker under a swarm. Spider mines don't count


What about vessel iradiate and BC yamato gun?

Ok so much for being an ass.

Bats matrixed rape vs lurkers under swarm if there's not too much.
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