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StaSiS
United States147 Posts
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pheered.user
United States2603 Posts
also+2 on tank weapons = 2shot death vs other tanks which i think is important, i dont see alot of terrans get it either | ||
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ejai63
United States2101 Posts
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LastDoomZerg
Korea (South)104 Posts
What i do on lost temple as long as the opponenet does wraith is to try to contain him with my first two tanks.(upgrade siege fast) on namja iyagi i wraith | ||
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t3h.sWaRm
United States202 Posts
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User_2
Russian Federation1020 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
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Null_hk
China318 Posts
On July 30 2004 20:28 User_2 wrote: Some basic strats to TvT that i know of are: 2 port wraith, 2 fac tank, 2 fac vult (mine + speed), goli drop. 1 fac cc is questionable in TvT because it allows your opponent to contain you that much easier if he went 2 fac tank. 2 port wraith is probably my favorite build. It doesn't do alot of damage, but it's effective in stopping drops and altering your opponents build. If he was going 2 fac tank, hes going to need to add an armory or engineering bay, and than turrets/goli after. Both alternatives get massacred by tank/wraith (mostly tank in beginning). The basic flow of the match when i play (2 port wraith is the build i use usually): Attack with wraith -> expand -> move out with 2-3 tanks + scvs -> contain -> expand -> expand -> expand -> etc. I generally tend to be very passive in this matchup and try to get as much of a defensive advantage as i can. To attack a defensive terran you need at the least, twice as many troops, or ridiculous micro. ive always failed at making wraith.. perhaps u could teach me on a replay?? | ||
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
On July 30 2004 18:37 ejai63 wrote: what's the best counter for 1 fac cc? dropship? a simple 2 fact vult rush or 2 fact 2 vul 2 gol rush provided ur floating rax sees it in time and do some delaying by landing on the expo spot also remember if the other terran builds it in his main and floats it to the expo, this will cost him 20 to 30 secs which is almost half a CC! this means u can catch up somehow if u just use one vult to kill the SCV killing the CC while expoing straight urself (assuming u started with 2 fact) if he builds it on the expo spot straight of coz he's asking for it =P timing =O | ||
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
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Million
United States559 Posts
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HeaT
Germany325 Posts
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LOcDowN
United States1015 Posts
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scGhost
Poland168 Posts
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Pafnucy
Poland1124 Posts
fac port or fac port port into expo - usually you see what opponent has, harass with wraith early or not while making 1 fac tank, cc and switching to factories or tank/wraith, unless opponent makes fast expo of same build where 1 fac mass port can work fast expo - expand fast with turret/siege tank and then go into mech(usually) or "suprise" mass wraith(good vs tank/wraith users who get expo after you and then you can catch them off guard with wraith before they switch to mech) variations/suprise builds - 2 fac gol or vult and then add 2 ports for wraith. I didnt say what dies to what because every game is different and writing longass essays on each minor build is pointless. Just shared few opening ideas. | ||
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Pob
880 Posts
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Pafnucy
Poland1124 Posts
On July 31 2004 06:21 Pob wrote: remember to keep a strong caffinated drink handy , you may fall asleep , lines of tanks and turrets... im yawning already you mean "Remember to piss before playing a TvT. Good TvT player always has food and drinks near comp in case of a long bc/turret/tank 1 hour+ game"? ^^ | ||
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Pob
880 Posts
anyway i guess i should answer this question... i always go random cos its more fun and i like it when they get pissed off when i wont select a race...if it ends up tvt ill go 3 port wraitha or marine rush , i dont often do many long tvt because if i have a long tvt i could have had 2-3 GG's in other matches by that time , know what i mean | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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TanGo
Sweden1019 Posts
Then you drop his main with a huge amount of tanks and some goliaths. Go back with your dropships don't let them die, and then get reinforcements. Drop either his cliff or on the same spot if your units are still alive.. they probably are since killing sieged tanks is a bit hard. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
Tank+Wraith is what it's all about nowadays. | ||
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Kreeeee
305 Posts
2 fac port gollie drop i drop 4 goliaths behind his mineral line asap. the gollies can also counter a very early drop (1fac port), wraiths, and 4 gollies own a tank without seige. this is not fool proof but i find it makes the game more interesting to go on the offensive rather than both tank/turret whore straight away | ||
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
if u have center map control it doesn't really matter if wraiths are better or gols are.however if the map is pretty much open with room for flanking in the center (luna) gols are better. if the map is pretty tedious, lacking room for flanking (chow chow and korhal) wraiths are better. LT is with wraiths slightly holding the upper hand compared to gols i think becoz TvT is a matchup that allows half of watever troops u have to defend safely, using the OTHER half of troops to gain another expansion is a very common style, which also leads to too many 30 to 1 hr long TvTs if both sides really play too safe with perfect timing for defending expos. this is why randomly scattered turrets DO matter these allow some amount of recon to react fast enough to anything the other terran does, not to mention a lone turret somewhere on the map can later hold the key to securing expos OR tank turret map control in late game. whoever "gets there and holds it first wins" | ||
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