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Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
January 27 2010 18:41 GMT
#21
They'll revolutionize korean PvT before SC2 comes out I think. At lower levels of SC I think there are easier options.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 27 2010 18:42 GMT
#22
i got owned by mana on hbr like this. he had like 2 groups of units and 6 corsairs and attacked me lol
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-27 19:33:58
January 27 2010 18:49 GMT
#23
On January 28 2010 03:42 MorroW wrote:
i got owned by mana on hbr like this. he had like 2 groups of units and 6 corsairs and attacked me lol

Is it in your TSL rep pack somewhere? If not, rep pls? It would be nice to see high level replays of this...

edit: browsing through quickly the 8 vs Mana games in your TSL reppack, I couldnt find such a game. Please upload it if you have it somewhere.

btw it was fun to see all the chats and trashtalks you had in those 8 games
+ Show Spoiler [examples] +
"- ok how i stop this?
- you terran, not me"

"your mom farted"
"I will kill your dog"

"-I think people will love our chats
-What people?
-Your MOM"

"-gg re?
- no
- then kill my buildings"

"-omg what are my goons doing
-dying
-fuck you"
:D
BW fighting!
BallKicker
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)84 Posts
January 27 2010 21:55 GMT
#24
I once went Sair/Goon/Zealot in a PvT, got my ass severely owned 1 game out of 4. The other 3 games I won.
But I would rather have 3 zealots and a Dragoon than a sair with Dweb.
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
January 27 2010 22:15 GMT
#25
If corsairs had consume then they'd probably be good in conjunction with a constant stream of probes or speed upgraded observers.

Barring a corsair-consume patch, you're gonna have a really hard time using them because they don't deal any damage, and at 125 mana per d-web you're not gonna be getting much milage out of d-web. Plus you've got to target each d-web individually which is a micro nightmare and you'll probably have them in a corsair cloud that would be vulnerable to EMP. Unlike Arbiters, if they are EMP'd they have no redeeming qualities.

The real burden is the opportunity cost in terms of other units as someone else has already mentioned. It boils down to: if you win a game with corsairs, you almost definitely would have won the game without corsairs. The converse is probably not true
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
January 27 2010 22:17 GMT
#26
--- Nuked ---
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 27 2010 22:26 GMT
#27
-______- you'd need to build fleet beacon, 2-3 stargates, upgrade web AND energy and pump sairs (150/100).

Why not just put down more gateways and pump arbiters?
cw)minsean(ru
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 27 2010 22:40 GMT
#28
On January 28 2010 07:26 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
-______- you'd need to build fleet beacon, 2-3 stargates, upgrade web AND energy and pump sairs (150/100).

Why not just put down more gateways and pump arbiters?

You don't even need that =/ you need just one stargate. You don't need to rush the fleet beacon either since you need your sairs to charge. I think it's viable on outsider (not optimal though) where you have a lot of easy bases and the natural is so cramped up. Plus dropship play is common and sairs can really neutralise that. You can web the entire natural with like.. 3-4 webs pretty easily and then you can really cause some pain.
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Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
January 27 2010 22:46 GMT
#29
On January 28 2010 01:51 mmp wrote:
Once the lockdown revolution comes, this will be a suitable counter strat. You heard it here first!


I lol'd
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hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
January 27 2010 22:55 GMT
#30
if terran had mutalisks they would be useful T.T
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
January 27 2010 23:11 GMT
#31
i like to build my fleet beacon at my main nexus so they scan it. theyll get gols thinking im getting carriers and you dweb tanks and rape the goliaths with dragoons.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
January 27 2010 23:13 GMT
#32
People are saying alot here about how expensive it would be... Complaining about buying the research and upgrades, but don't you have to do that for arbiters too?

D-web has about the same AoE. The only disadvantage in my opinion is that zealots won't be able to attack and that you don't have recalls.
I'm an old man now
dyos
Profile Joined June 2008
United States108 Posts
January 29 2010 11:49 GMT
#33
It won't last long enough in late game PvT. It's cute. That's about it. It used to work before blizz shortened the dweb time.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 11:58:38
January 29 2010 11:57 GMT
#34
On January 28 2010 03:49 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2010 03:42 MorroW wrote:
i got owned by mana on hbr like this. he had like 2 groups of units and 6 corsairs and attacked me lol

Is it in your TSL rep pack somewhere? If not, rep pls? It would be nice to see high level replays of this...

edit: browsing through quickly the 8 vs Mana games in your TSL reppack, I couldnt find such a game. Please upload it if you have it somewhere.

btw it was fun to see all the chats and trashtalks you had in those 8 games
+ Show Spoiler [examples] +
"- ok how i stop this?
- you terran, not me"

"your mom farted"
"I will kill your dog"

"-I think people will love our chats
-What people?
-Your MOM"

"-gg re?
- no
- then kill my buildings"

"-omg what are my goons doing
-dying
-fuck you"
:D


heres the replay http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=29932

i hope u enjoy it as much as mana did :D i wouldnt really call this game "high level" tho XD
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 13:42:14
January 29 2010 13:41 GMT
#35
On January 28 2010 08:13 laLAlA[uC] wrote:
People are saying alot here about how expensive it would be... Complaining about buying the research and upgrades, but don't you have to do that for arbiters too?

D-web has about the same AoE. The only disadvantage in my opinion is that zealots won't be able to attack and that you don't have recalls.



Except you know that huge AOE cloak they provide and the fact that stasis is way way better than dweb

And I might add that having recall is so fucking gamebreaking it's not even a decision between the two
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
January 29 2010 15:59 GMT
#36
Legend did it against Puma (?) in that chinese event on Medusa. I don't think it's bad at all, the main problem is if terran pushes out before your energy is up. And if he scans it and spread his tanks well it's difficult to attack.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 29 2010 16:02 GMT
#37
The negativity in this topic is depressing. I don't think anyone considers sair/goon a viable, competitive, high-level Serious Strategy. But if you believe, like I do, that the point of playing Starcraft is to have fun, then who cares if it's not a Bisu-approved Perfect PvT Build? It's incredibly enjoyable, and a completely different approach to an otherwise fairly boring matchup. Sure, it's suboptimal, but it's not a stupid strategy (e.g. devourers ZvT), and certainly a viable one.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 17:18:48
January 29 2010 17:16 GMT
#38
Chill has already proven on his stream that mass corsairs (and a mass hallucinated archon army) is incredibly imba and overpowered.

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especially when you go mass hallucinated archons-> mass corsairs -> dark archon mind control -> mass tanks
pretty strong build in Pv(->Tv)T
beep boop
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
January 29 2010 20:00 GMT
#39
Corsairs are doable, but not viable as a standard of play. D-Web might be comparable to stasis, but other than that one spell the Arbiter holds a huge advantage over sairs in utility, as well as cost efficiency.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 20:56:03
January 29 2010 20:54 GMT
#40
This is all you need to know: After go.go beat Pusan in his interview he said "as soon as I saw the corsairs I knew I had won".

edit: it is a joke build you can use to have fun or humiliate lesser opponents.
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