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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28727 Posts
January 14 2004 15:33 GMT
#21
in pvp, you want to stop pretty damn early. it depends on what your scouting probe revealed and all that (but you should definitely not lose it until he has his first goon. )

anyway I find stopping after about 24 in pvp to be "ideal".
but I could also justify stopping after 20. making 30 probes before exp however, is suicide in pvp against a competent opponent.
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Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
January 14 2004 15:36 GMT
#22
On January 15 2004 00:33 Liquid`Drone wrote:
in pvp, you want to stop pretty damn early. it depends on what your scouting probe revealed and all that (but you should definitely not lose it until he has his first goon. )

anyway I find stopping after about 24 in pvp to be "ideal".
but I could also justify stopping after 20. making 30 probes before exp however, is suicide in pvp against a competent opponent.


why? pls explain me newb
Riding a bike is overrated.
Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
January 14 2004 15:38 GMT
#23
ask NTT when to stop
Mr.Royle
Profile Joined December 2003
Portugal324 Posts
January 14 2004 15:38 GMT
#24
to save it for units i guess and since having 30 probes in ur main or 20 gives u the same money in the same time :O .
My hope is one day ARROGANT people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them.
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
January 14 2004 15:44 GMT
#25
On January 15 2004 00:38 Freezer_au wrote:
ask NTT when to stop


That guy defined macro.
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
January 14 2004 15:48 GMT
#26
never stop except for situations you need to have special things really fast (units mostly ) and situations where there are no or few minerals left to mine
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
January 14 2004 15:56 GMT
#27
Stoping and starting peon production is just pure feeling with zerg. So hard to know when to stop and when to start.
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
January 14 2004 15:59 GMT
#28
After 18 workers you start to get diminishing returns, unless you are going to transfer them to another base.

I can't remember if there is much difference between mining like 4 bases with 18 or 6 bases with 12 probes each. And that would depend on the patch number. 18 is the best for 8 patches. Testing it is annoying and it probably won't make that much difference, but if you want a pretty small improvement go and figure this out :p
wtf was that signature
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-01-14 16:04:48
January 14 2004 16:04 GMT
#29
when the terran first starts his push out and starts getting it really going, if he is any good you are going to almost have to stop peons to beat his push (especially if distances are close). i find that its very easy to "over-probe" pvt sometimes, and you definetely dont want to 'never stop'
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 14 2004 16:07 GMT
#30
its just situational for every matchup, but as your competition gets better you will want to stop sometimes.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
January 14 2004 16:27 GMT
#31
nonono, not for builds and so on, I mean stop for a good while -_-
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
January 14 2004 16:34 GMT
#32
no, thats usually a bad idea
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
January 14 2004 16:35 GMT
#33
(that is, until you have way more than enough econ to overpower the terran, then you can let up)
Yang
Profile Joined October 2003
Lithuania231 Posts
January 14 2004 16:37 GMT
#34
stupid 'peon'
it's not fuckin warcraft
dfgh
midwich
Profile Joined December 2002
United Kingdom324 Posts
January 14 2004 16:50 GMT
#35
I have no shame, and here's a question to prove it: how do people know when they have 18 workers, as against say 24? They keep count, AND Bamboo rush or whatever? Very impressive, if so.
This is not a quote.
Mr.Royle
Profile Joined December 2003
Portugal324 Posts
January 14 2004 17:00 GMT
#36
mid isnt really that hard just count :
current suplly - 1 ( if u r making a scv ) - total supply of units beside scvs ( this shouldnt be too hard on the begining ) - number of scvs on gas ( usually 3 :D ) .
and if u play many games with this 18 thing in mind u will be timed for it i guess .
My hope is one day ARROGANT people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them.
nolowerd cnase noame
Profile Joined December 2003
United States161 Posts
January 15 2004 04:38 GMT
#37
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the prejduduice is haslf full
BinGBonG[gamei]
Profile Joined May 2003
Netherlands514 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-01-15 05:07:29
January 15 2004 05:06 GMT
#38
On January 14 2004 23:36 Eliminator wrote:
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On January 14 2004 23:07 dork wrote:
I dont really stop pumping till late game, usually I make non stop probes


Review one of your reps. You will see that you aren't making probes non-stop.


i did and it sucked
i stil find it hard to stop because im probe addict,anyway i stop now when i think z go muta to make fast 6 cannons.I stop in pvp 10-12 gate,and reaver.in pvt i stop when i fast expant i make first 4 goons befire i restart pumping probes again.
and i stop when i think i wil be anal invated when i dont stop making probes.
Smoke weed everyday ~-_-~
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
January 16 2004 19:39 GMT
#39
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Zulu
Profile Joined December 2003
South Africa19 Posts
January 16 2004 19:41 GMT
#40
On January 14 2004 21:50 Pumpkin wrote:
Don't stop unless your playing a Great terran who can push at an early time with good macro and micro then you need to stop for extra unit production other wise make enough probes for like 4 - 5 expos

15 at each so around 70 probes or so


of course none of what you mentioned really affects your gameplay at all, because you fucking suck.
Shaka
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