EPTPlayers that got chance vs him is Whitera Pj Legend Fenix Draco(when he is active) and few others maybe.
IdrA vs. Foreigners - Page 5
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SkelA
Macedonia13090 Posts
Players that got chance vs him is Whitera Pj Legend Fenix Draco(when he is active) and few others maybe. | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
And to take it one step further I think korean pros should be allowed to play in foreigner tourniments as well. Mainly for the selfish reason that I enjoy watching korean pros curbstomp foreigners  Besides look at PJ vs Savior at WCG. Sure its only one game out of many but skilled foreigners can compete against sloppy over confident under preforming pros I mean did you guys see the games from the last valor ro8? Horrible. I think avoiding things like THAT should be more of a priority than keeping idra out of foreigner events. | ||
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ActualSteve
United States627 Posts
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On June 28 2009 03:26 ActualSteve wrote: Why hasn't IdrA commented on this, yet? because he probably doesn't care about these silly discussions that randomly seem to pop up about him. Just taking a guess here. | ||
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HooHa!
United States688 Posts
I mean unless someone specifically says "no people in korea can play this tourney" or No "idras" Then fine. He is a great player who is beating people why not? You can have progamers play in foreign tourney's if you wanted to, and if THEY wanted to also, I am just sure they don't care much for it because they consider their priorities more. Unless you are sea shield and you are charmed by TL attack. I mean its really just up to the two parties, the gamers and the guys who run the games. | ||
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arsonist
Canada80 Posts
On June 27 2009 22:22 Itachii wrote: Might be just me, but did the OP really want to start discussion over this pointless topic, or he just needed this for flame war? Answer is obvious, he should be allowed to particpate - hes not @ the level where he won't drop single game to foreigners, and even if he was - its not his fault others don't have the time and such means of training. But at the same times hes better than any other foreigner, at least considering his recent results - but that doesn't disqualify him, right? I haven't flamed anyone, and I specifically said it's nothing against IdrA... it's just a discussion. If anything, it's a compliment to his increasing skill. | ||
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Failsafe
United States1298 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
Playing against weaker opponents who have bad habits will give the trainee bad habits themselves. (Thought process. ahha this works against these nubs) (Reality: Works against nubs and builts a bad habit that good pros will dismantle and tear apart). Actually, this works for many sports and probably goes for SC as well. Once IdrA starts winning back-to-back tournaments, I think he should resign himself from the foreign scene. He's proven that he's able to dominate them, so why keep trouncing on them when there's bigger fish to fry? It's not like he's improving himself. When I play table tennis, I try to avoid playing people who I know I'm going to because they have poor technique because I develop bad habits playing against them. Since they suck and will often mess up, my footwork gets lazy, I half expect not to return a serve properly. Yeah sure, I'll have to eventually play weaker players but when I do I don't try to win, I look for ways to improve my own game by playing them. (Example, focus on footwork and only use my forehand.) Korean Footwork (Ryu Seung Min 2004 Olympic Champion) Getting your butt kicked by a better player helps you improve faster cause you see how you lose points when they're forced as opposed to the other guy making mistakes. I think IdrA is getting closer to Korean progamer level, a lot more than people give credit. Go Greg! Screw the amateurs, go for gold in South Korea! | ||
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Piste
6183 Posts
On June 27 2009 19:18 I3oxerfan wrote: No. It is a different. Nony and Draco were in Korea. Idra is in Korea. obviously you don't read. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On June 28 2009 04:11 igotmyown wrote: Is Idra better than draco at his peak? Well draco did beat Midas who made it to WCG grand finals and thats big , Idra has yet to beat an A - teamer . | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
just lol...qft what g5 said | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13922 Posts
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shafiru
111 Posts
On June 29 2009 02:26 raga4ka wrote: Well draco did beat Midas who made it to WCG grand finals and thats big , Idra has yet to beat an A - teamer . IdrA has beaten Savior, Kwanro, and many others. You just don't hear about it. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
On June 28 2009 05:54 jkillashark wrote: Once IdrA starts winning back-to-back tournaments, I think he should resign himself from the foreign scene. He's proven that he's able to dominate them, so why keep trouncing on them when there's bigger fish to fry? This is true, but it's easy money for him so I doubt he'd resign himself | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
As far as I know, it has nothing to do with their nationality or heritage. The reason why Korean progamers are excluded is, that their skill outmatches the foreigner community's best player's skill by far. This is not because Koreans are naturally better at SC, but because of the rigid training Korean progamers undergo. Even Korean B-Teamers have such a high winning-rate vs top foreign players, that it's common sense to exclude them from foreign tournaments. Now, Idra has been to Korea for more than a year now, IIRC. He's undergone the training schedule of Korean progamers and has become one of them. While he's certainly not untouchable, he's undoubtedly on the level of a Korean B-Team progamer, who, as stated above, are all excluded from foreigner tournaments. Hence, the only stringent thing to do would be excluding him from foreign tournaments as well. As a Terran player, I really love to see him play, but I find that it's just become more and more unfair, since he's just starting to dominate every foreign event he participates in. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 29 2009 02:26 raga4ka wrote: Well draco did beat Midas who made it to WCG grand finals and thats big , Idra has yet to beat an A - teamer . You know Trap and shuttle are STX A-team right? | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On June 28 2009 05:54 jkillashark wrote: In Korea and Japan, they take baduk commonly known as the board game go very seriously. Kids start training VERY early starting in their grade school years and often become pro in middle school. Those who are training to become a pro are often forbidden from playing amateur tournaments. Why? Playing against weaker opponents who have bad habits will give the trainee bad habits themselves. (Thought process. ahha this works against these nubs) (Reality: Works against nubs and builts a bad habit that good pros will dismantle and tear apart). Actually, this works for many sports and probably goes for SC as well. Once IdrA starts winning back-to-back tournaments, I think he should resign himself from the foreign scene. He's proven that he's able to dominate them, so why keep trouncing on them when there's bigger fish to fry? It's not like he's improving himself. When I play table tennis, I try to avoid playing people who I know I'm going to because they have poor technique because I develop bad habits playing against them. Since they suck and will often mess up, my footwork gets lazy, I half expect not to return a serve properly. Yeah sure, I'll have to eventually play weaker players but when I do I don't try to win, I look for ways to improve my own game by playing them. (Example, focus on footwork and only use my forehand.) Korean Footwork (Ryu Seung Min 2004 Olympic Champion) Getting your butt kicked by a better player helps you improve faster cause you see how you lose points when they're forced as opposed to the other guy making mistakes. I think IdrA is getting closer to Korean progamer level, a lot more than people give credit. Go Greg! Screw the amateurs, go for gold in South Korea! money | ||
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I3oxerfan
215 Posts
Pretty good games. + Show Spoiler + No gg by Idra. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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