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Flow.of.soul
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-30 23:33:28
July 30 2009 23:32 GMT
#201
The way I see it is based on the rules of tournament is weither Idra should play or not. If we define a foreigner tournament as a tournament for people who are not korean and are "representing" so to speak (like the Olympics), the country of South Korea, then Idra should be allowed to play. However, if we define a foreigner tournament as a tournament for people that are not "representing" the country of South Korea, AND are not progammers within the South Korean starcraft scene (technically people that participate in foreigner tournaments that have prize pools are professionals according to Merriam-Webster dictionary but thats an entirely different discussion), then Idra should not be allowed to play in foreigner tournaments. Really at the end of the day it comes down to how you define what a foreigner tournament is.

The argument that Idra should not be allowed to play in foreigner tournaments because he has progammer practice partners is a bogus argument because of two things. One, in any competitive sport, it does not matter where you train. Also, you can play basketball with the best players in the world but you would never get any better without true dedication and practice, something that Idra has shown that he can do. Two, with iCCup, top level foreigners have the ability to play progammers if they really wanted to and dedicated the time to do it. So while Idra does have a better environment to train in, he still basically has access to the same training partners as the foreigners do.

Really, I don't understand why people do not want Idra to play in foreigner tournaments, especially if they are Terran players. Idra knows alot of the korean build orders and foreigner tournaments are more likely to release the replays then korean tournaments. So then foreigners get access to korean build orders, its like, how are you possibly losing anything by letting him participate?

Anyways that just my two cents, not that anybody cares about it though.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
July 30 2009 23:32 GMT
#202
On July 30 2009 22:58 stk01001 wrote:
what's the big deal... despite his "progamer" training he still gets beaten by foreigners regularly. It's not like he's some unbeatable monster who dominates every foreigner tournament he's in..

he's not THAT great of a player, anyone who's that predictable can never be a true force..


He has definitely been using different strategies in recent tournaments. And he is an unbeatable monster who dominates every foreign tournament.
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