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arsonist
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada80 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-27 07:34:56
June 27 2009 07:33 GMT
#21
Thanks for the stats, JWD! I didn't want to say he was already owning everyone without factual evidence, and there it is.
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-27 07:40:30
June 27 2009 07:40 GMT
#22
Koreans don't play in foreign tourneys because they have better tourneys to play in,in Korea
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
June 27 2009 08:15 GMT
#23
It's true that he's not an amateur, but he is still a guy who doesn't speak korean, has only been pro for a year or two, and basically is another attempt by a foreigner to practice and eventually perform like a korean professional, all of the other recent such attempts having set precident for failure.

Another thing is, even if you do want to say that he's 'not a foreigner' simply because he's living in korea and has been drafted by a proteam, you're still not even saying much. I'm not sure that b-teamers are even really in another class than the top amateur non-koreans.

It's going to take alot more work yet before he is more than just a b-teamer, and truly above the other top foreigners.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
oneill
Profile Joined August 2004
Philippines278 Posts
June 27 2009 08:19 GMT
#24
He should still play in these tournaments. All the others who went to train in Korea also played in these tournies. It would be unfair for Idra if he is banned. gogogo Idra fighting
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-27 08:39:46
June 27 2009 08:37 GMT
#25
wouldn thet chinese then b unable to compete also?
Taek Bang
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
June 27 2009 09:24 GMT
#26
On June 27 2009 16:40 DM20 wrote:
Koreans don't play in foreign tourneys because they have better tourneys to play in,in Korea

I don't think those tourneys allow pro gamers. Pro gamers have their own tourneys, OSL etc, which IdrA has played in and lost terribly.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5558 Posts
June 27 2009 09:26 GMT
#27
The Chinese are banned due to lag reasons afaik.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 27 2009 09:35 GMT
#28
this aint up to any of you
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 27 2009 09:41 GMT
#29
Idra got destroyed really badly by PJ, i'd like to see them fight again
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7222 Posts
June 27 2009 09:42 GMT
#30
Idra should play in the tournaments until his skill rises to that of a korean progamer. Right now he's bottom of B-team level which isn't a terribly large gap from the best foreign players as shown by the numerous matches he's lost to them.
日本語が分かりますか
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-27 09:44:52
June 27 2009 09:44 GMT
#31
edit: wrong place
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
June 27 2009 10:03 GMT
#32
By normal sport definitions anyone who is being paid is technically professional or semi-professional at least.
That would disqualify many foreigners so of course you can't make silly rules like that.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
June 27 2009 10:06 GMT
#33
I think that official segregation of 'foreigners' and Koreans is a bad idea. The two communities are worlds apart already and all efforts should be made to bridge them IMO.

This is easier said than done, of course, but I think that even if there were one or two more foreign players on teams in Korea, the community as a whole would benefit.

But then, what do I know?
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
June 27 2009 10:06 GMT
#34
I vote yes ofcourse.
Idra is from usa, he plays bw, so why not?
Also he is a B-teamer so he doesn't show on proleague.
And who wouldn't want to see such high level Terran play from a foreigner?
Draco has been in korea too, same as nony. They shouldn't be able to compete in feroign tournament as well then.
I3oxerfan
Profile Joined January 2008
215 Posts
June 27 2009 10:17 GMT
#35
The progamers have their own tourneys (OSL, MSL and PL) and Idra is a "progamer" or at least he wants to be a progamer and therfore he should not play in foreigner tourneys.
I3oxerfan
Profile Joined January 2008
215 Posts
June 27 2009 10:18 GMT
#36
On June 27 2009 19:06 Piste wrote:
I vote yes ofcourse.
Idra is from usa, he plays bw, so why not?
Also he is a B-teamer so he doesn't show on proleague.
And who wouldn't want to see such high level Terran play from a foreigner?
Draco has been in korea too, same as nony. They shouldn't be able to compete in feroign tournament as well then.



No. It is a different. Nony and Draco were in Korea. Idra is in Korea.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 27 2009 10:33 GMT
#37
On June 27 2009 18:42 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Idra should play in the tournaments until his skill rises to that of a korean progamer. Right now he's bottom of B-team level which isn't a terribly large gap from the best foreign players as shown by the numerous matches he's lost to them.


hes not bottom of b team at cj
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 27 2009 10:56 GMT
#38
On June 27 2009 16:40 DM20 wrote:
Koreans don't play in foreign tourneys because they have better tourneys to play in,in Korea


Im pretty sure if the TSL was opened to koreans they would have played.
bisu fanboy
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 27 2009 11:17 GMT
#39
I wanna see him play so unless I see him in SL/PL he should absolutely be allowed to do so. :p
觀過斯知仁矣.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
June 27 2009 11:19 GMT
#40
On June 27 2009 18:42 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Idra should play in the tournaments until his skill rises to that of a korean progamer. Right now he's bottom of B-team level which isn't a terribly large gap from the best foreign players as shown by the numerous matches he's lost to them.

go to the replay section and download the rep of idra vs ret
some of the comments of day[9] and ret when they were watching the rep were along the lines of
hes a b but plays like an A, hes like the best player ive seen on iccup, hes crazy good etc etc
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
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