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On June 26 2009 00:29 Jonvvv wrote: BoxeR as a sniper in the proleague-playoffs would be awsome :p
Yea, but it wouldn't be Boxer (or loveOov, or Nada, or any of the old time big players) to be content with just being a sniper. I can't see any of them satisfied with being a sniper rather than a normal proleague contributor.
And it's hard to be called a sniper when you've got more titles than entire teams. Than several teams put together.
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On June 26 2009 00:30 nozaro33 wrote: Seriously, talking (I don't think arguing) about whether Boxer is bad or not is stupid and kinda pointless. For instance, Nada hasn't been doing that great lately, is he bad? No, it's just much harder for players like him (and Boxer) to keep up with the scene with all the new and younger players. (Which all have insane mechanics and faster hands) But Nada is the most consistent player of progaming history ever and he still continues to be a relevant player, which Boxer completely fails at.
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he just havent been given a chance to prove himself recently...like gorush and yellow until they went to ace
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On June 26 2009 01:43 ZidaneTribal wrote: he just havent been given a chance to prove himself recently...like gorush and yellow until they went to ace
Maybe he wants to practice more before playing in a pro-game again. I don't think he wants to start playing and completely fail while up there.
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he is solid A+ iccup player now
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Boxer and OOv are the reason why Fantasy has transformed from an average player into an Uber death machine lately. So yeah, I think he's taken more of a coaching, brother role at SKT1.
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On June 26 2009 01:14 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 01:03 Leath wrote:On June 25 2009 13:46 Beachac wrote: I'm kind of new to the starcraft scene, but I see that boxer has been losing a lot of his recent games, so I'm just curious, has he lost his touch? Yup. I think he may have, in fact, dropped down to B, B+ Was a replay not long ago here on teamliquid where Boxer just toyed with one of our (foreigners) best players.... During TSL he was 2-1'd by JF though..I still think Boxer is the greatest player to ever play the game but he's just not as good as he once was
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He is still playing in e-stars seoul tournament correct? So I guess we will see what he has.
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Lol you're going to show a zerg winning against another race on Raid Assault as an exhibit of skill levels?
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HonestTea
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We'll find out how good he is when he starts playing again. He expressed a desire to return to form, so you can bet he's practicing hard right now.
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You sirs with your blasphemy against the emperor, should simply go somewhere and get pwned.
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I appreciate Boxer and everything he's done, but in all honestly the fanboyism here feels like a TL religion thread
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On June 26 2009 04:02 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: I appreciate Boxer and everything he's done, but in all honesty the fanboyism here feels like a TL religion thread
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On June 26 2009 04:02 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: I appreciate Boxer and everything he's done, but in all honestly the fanboyism here feels like a TL religion thread
I fail to see the problem.
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On June 26 2009 01:26 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 00:30 nozaro33 wrote: Seriously, talking (I don't think arguing) about whether Boxer is bad or not is stupid and kinda pointless. For instance, Nada hasn't been doing that great lately, is he bad? No, it's just much harder for players like him (and Boxer) to keep up with the scene with all the new and younger players. (Which all have insane mechanics and faster hands) But Nada is the most consistent player of progaming history ever and he still continues to be a relevant player, which Boxer completely fails at.
Dont ever compare the emperor to nada. 
IDC, what anyone of you think. Boxer will always be a god of starcraft and noone will never ever get anywhere close to what he once was.
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On June 26 2009 04:09 Railz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 04:02 MoRe_mInErAls wrote: I appreciate Boxer and everything he's done, but in all honestly the fanboyism here feels like a TL religion thread I fail to see the problem.
I certaintly see it. Rabid fanboyism is annoying, especially when no one calls it out. As much as people say they like to watch boxer, win or lose, i certainly don't. Because I know I am going to see a subpar game. Its the same way I don't like to watch ACE proleague matches: I want to watch the game being played at the very top level. I like long games with back and forth action, tons of units, and high multitasking. In other words, i wanna watch bisu, flash, jaedong.
Boxer has done a great many things for professional starcraft, but unfortunately that is all in the past. Sure he might be able win games here and there due to his deep understanding of having played the game for so long professionally, but in straight up games he would most likely be dominated.
He still has aspects of the game that are really good, such has his small unit micro and strategic-outside the box thinking, but the game has developed beyond that. He would probably lose to anyone in kespa 30 in a bo5.
His true strength now lies in coaching and leadership.
PS. Response to post above, I'd take NaDa any day over boxer. NaDa was how i got into broodwar, so I can see how people might view boxer the same way, but NaDa is just better.
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On June 26 2009 04:12 Teh_Arbitur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2009 01:26 koreasilver wrote:On June 26 2009 00:30 nozaro33 wrote: Seriously, talking (I don't think arguing) about whether Boxer is bad or not is stupid and kinda pointless. For instance, Nada hasn't been doing that great lately, is he bad? No, it's just much harder for players like him (and Boxer) to keep up with the scene with all the new and younger players. (Which all have insane mechanics and faster hands) But Nada is the most consistent player of progaming history ever and he still continues to be a relevant player, which Boxer completely fails at. Dont ever compare the emperor to nada.  IDC, what anyone of you think. Boxer will always be a god of starcraft and noone will never ever get anywhere close to what he once was.
Nada is the most successful SC player ever (I doubt anyone is going to get more titles than him).
It's no shame to compare Boxer with Nada.
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just wondering about you guys saying boxer helped in inventing the fantasy build, proof?
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On June 26 2009 16:36 stroggos wrote: just wondering about you guys saying boxer helped in inventing the fantasy build, proof?
well the fantasy build is more of an evolution of T into the flexible mech style that we see today that fantasy repopularized...Boxer, nada, and oov all made significant contributions to T that we see through the fantasy build.
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