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pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
June 28 2009 08:22 GMT
#121
On June 26 2009 04:29 RivetHead wrote:
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On June 26 2009 04:09 Railz wrote:
On June 26 2009 04:02 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
I appreciate Boxer and everything he's done, but in all honestly the fanboyism here feels like a TL religion thread


I fail to see the problem.

Boxer has done a great many things for professional starcraft, but unfortunately that is all in the past.


Do you like watching the Proleague? Thank Boxer. He paid money out of his own pocket to help OGN create the Proleague six years ago. Before the Proleague was created, the sponsor of Boxer's team Orion (which was the confectionary DongYang) offered a contract to sponsor only Boxer. He refused it because he wanted to set an example that professional SC needs corporate sponsors and teams if the players are going to be taken care of properly, like any athletes for any other sports. The things he has done for Starcraft are not in the past. They're happening right now. I could go on (to great, great lengths, even), but I think everyone should realize that Boxer isn't so beloved purely because of what he did as a player. It's because of what he did as a person. He is by far the most important person ever to live when it comes to SC and the examples he set are the norm today.

So ... let's all take it easy on Boxer. He deserves it.
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
June 28 2009 08:25 GMT
#122
BoxeR never got worse, everyone else just got better.
peetah
Profile Joined August 2005
Sweden88 Posts
June 28 2009 08:45 GMT
#123
On June 25 2009 20:04 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
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On June 25 2009 19:45 DoX.) wrote:
On June 25 2009 19:37 Hyperionnn wrote:
On June 25 2009 15:47 jimminy_kriket wrote:
that screenshot is the most disgusting thing ive seen in months




RivetHead
Profile Joined March 2005
United States842 Posts
June 28 2009 08:53 GMT
#124
On June 28 2009 17:25 Eben wrote:
BoxeR never got worse, everyone else just got better.


He not only didn't get worse, he is much, much better now (or at the point right before he joined ACE) than he ever was in his dominance. But the game has changed so much that the skill levels are off the charts.

The metagame has changed at a faster and faster pace over the years, which means that the average skill level of a progamer has increased at an accelerated rate, especially since iloveoov's macro revolution. Someone like Idra or Herb can probably have dominated in Boxer and Nada's heydey.
I *heart* bisu, nada, mind, and the lakers
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
June 28 2009 09:12 GMT
#125
On June 28 2009 17:53 RivetHead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2009 17:25 Eben wrote:
BoxeR never got worse, everyone else just got better.


He not only didn't get worse, he is much, much better now (or at the point right before he joined ACE) than he ever was in his dominance. But the game has changed so much that the skill levels are off the charts.

The metagame has changed at a faster and faster pace over the years, which means that the average skill level of a progamer has increased at an accelerated rate, especially since iloveoov's macro revolution. Someone like Idra or Herb can probably have dominated in Boxer and Nada's heydey.


this.
hi
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
June 28 2009 09:39 GMT
#126
that boxer game on raid assault looked like many of my TvZ's lol
and i agree with RivetHead
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
July 01 2009 01:49 GMT
#127
Is boxer ever gonna play a televised game again?
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
July 07 2009 06:34 GMT
#128
Wait for his matches in a week or so and believe he will win it. i believe <3
pew pew
Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
July 07 2009 06:43 GMT
#129
On July 01 2009 10:49 Lobbo wrote:
Is boxer ever gonna play a televised game again?


I sadly don't think so
No no no no its not mine!
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
July 07 2009 07:27 GMT
#130
On June 25 2009 13:56 Harem wrote:
One of his most recent games ((Z)Where vod is available) answers this pretty well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/10472_BoxeR_vs_Calm

that is when he uses valkirie...???
an then some guy called (T)fantasy came and copied it (same team, maybe he didnt copied)
Stork FAN!!!
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 07 2009 07:43 GMT
#131
On July 07 2009 16:27 Inzek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2009 13:56 Harem wrote:
One of his most recent games ((Z)Where vod is available) answers this pretty well.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/10472_BoxeR_vs_Calm

that is when he uses valkirie...???
an then some guy called (T)fantasy came and copied it (same team, maybe he didnt copied)

get your facts straight. first off fantasy and boxer weren't on the same team when boxer first used valks. second, the fantasy build was essentially made by oov. third, fantasy build's main innovation was the use of dropships and vultures to prevent zerg from overexpanding.
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MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-07 07:49:52
July 07 2009 07:48 GMT
#132
Boxer is 30...video National Geographic about eSport


at the age of 25, the brain starts to decrease the reflex ability and PGMs are mostly based on the reflex.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-07 07:51:39
July 07 2009 07:50 GMT
#133
On July 07 2009 16:48 MK wrote:
at the age of 25, the brain starts to decrease the reflex ability and PGMs are mostly based on the reflex.
Boxer is 30...


reflex is also important for goalkeepers in football or icehocky, but the best goalkeepers are "old".
small dicks have great firepower
Signus
Profile Joined February 2009
United States269 Posts
July 07 2009 07:57 GMT
#134
Boxer has said the things that are holding him back are his hands and his eyes. His brain is fine.
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
July 07 2009 08:19 GMT
#135
On July 07 2009 16:57 Signus wrote:
Boxer has said the things that are holding him back are his hands and his eyes. His brain is fine.


What controls the hands and eyes?
Officially the founder of Team Property (:
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
July 07 2009 09:03 GMT
#136
On July 07 2009 16:57 Signus wrote:
Boxer has said the things that are holding him back are his hands and his eyes. His brain is fine.

facepalm.jpg

do you actually think he has arthritis and some kind of traumatic eyeball, nerve damage?
Beachac
Profile Joined June 2009
United States278 Posts
July 25 2009 03:50 GMT
#137
Do you guys think he'll ever be able to compete with the best players again?
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 25 2009 03:53 GMT
#138
Have you seen how great hes been doing in Heritage League? He'll still be a pretty strong force to contend with that's for sure.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 25 2009 04:02 GMT
#139
Boxer is looking pretty good in Heritage right now, but most of those players are in bad form right now and simply do not stack up against modern S-class progamers.

I haven't seen all of Boxer's matches, but from the ones I have seen, I do believe his strategic sense is as sharp as ever and that in a match of strategy and micro, Boxer should be able to take wins off even some of the highest gamers in the industry, but I also saw a lot of sloppy late game mistakes. For instance, in his game against Yellow last night, Boxer had a huge army that he lost to only a handful of units because he was controlling a different force on the other side of the map and not paying attention. If you compare this to Flash, you will see the clear difference.

In fact, even just looking at last night's games, Boxer's large army control compared to NaDa's was really bad and I felt his timing sense compared to NaDa's was also not as good. However, unlike Boxer, NaDa made some pretty bad tactical errors against a significantly more challenging opponent (I felt Savior's play was clearly on a higher level than Yellow's, although some may argue that Yellow was forced to play on a harder map for Zerg).
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
July 25 2009 04:06 GMT
#140
never cause without him nobody else would of improved to where they are today
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
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